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2016-04-07 11:41 AM


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Subject: 70.3 in 55-60 degree weather
Hey All,

I've got my first half distance in two days. The weather forecast is suddenly calling for a light rain and 55-60 degrees. I'm a bit worried about being cold on the bike. I've got a rain jacket, but it's not a great fit.

I was thinking regular bike jersey, and arm warmers, and maybe a hat I can wear under my helmet.

Any thoughts? Do I need to worry about staying dry?

Gabe


2016-04-07 12:07 PM
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How large of a person are you, and how sensitive are you to cold?

 

2016-04-07 12:18 PM
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I'm 5'11 192... I don't freak out at the cold. I'm worried about the cumulative affect. I could be overthinking it!
2016-04-07 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by Gaber I'm 5'11 192... I don't freak out at the cold. I'm worried about the cumulative affect. I could be overthinking it!

At your size, you may be overthinking it a bit, but, if you didn't overthink things occasionally, you wouldn't be much of a triathlete.  

If it's that temperature and raining, I'd suggest a long sleeve breathable water resistant top to keep you a little dryer and hold in some heat.  If it's not raining, then arm warmers with your tri top (sleeved or sleeveless) should be ok, and you can remove them during the race if you get too warm.

If you were a really small person and/or sensitive to the cold, I'd go with a more conservative approach.

 

2016-04-07 12:36 PM
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FWIW I am 180lbs.

Make sure to get a good dry before getting on the bike, takes about 5-10 seconds to dry your body off. Other then that gloves and MAYBE toe warmers and that is all you'll need. You can stuff your gloves in your back pocket when you warm up. Your body will provide plenty of heat.
2016-04-07 12:42 PM
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I am the same height and just a few # lighter. For me, that is perfect weather. If not for the threat of rain I would be short sleeve all the way. The only things I would consider changing if it was raining would be (1) a water resistant breathable top as has been suggested, except for me that would still be short sleeves and (2) water proof shoe covers (I hate wet feet while riding).

I understand that tolerance to cold is highly individual but I warm up pretty quickly when riding. Assuming no big wind issues I would forego the arm sleeves at that temp.

Good luck. My first half is in a few weeks.


2016-04-07 1:32 PM
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Subject: RE: 70.3 in 55-60 degree weather
Thanks for the advice.

In looking at the forecast, it looks like mid to low 50's and a light rain in the first hour. Not sure I want to run out and buy a water proof jersey. I've got a one piece tri suit, it's pretty light. May just try rolling with arm warmers and maybe throw on a jersey.
2016-04-07 1:45 PM
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I think gloves are a really good idea. I've done cold tris before, and having cold wet hands with the wind blowing at them can get pretty miserable. It starts to get hard to shift, and getting out of your helmet and into your shoes in T2 takes significantly longer with frozen hands.
2016-04-07 1:58 PM
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Generally same size as you and have done races with similar forecasts.   Tri top and arm warmers was all i needed.   I always feel much warmer in the air after a cold water swim (ours was 60 ish) than I do before, so it's never that bad.   But everyone is different, I tend to run warm anyway

2016-04-07 2:02 PM
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Subject: RE: 70.3 in 55-60 degree weather
Originally posted by bcagle25

FWIW I am 180lbs.

Make sure to get a good dry before getting on the bike, takes about 5-10 seconds to dry your body off. Other then that gloves and MAYBE toe warmers and that is all you'll need. You can stuff your gloves in your back pocket when you warm up. Your body will provide plenty of heat.


I'm 5'10" and 150lbs and (for temps 40-50) what I do is just dry off in T1, put on a dry top, have arm warmers and gloves available, and cover my shoes with "toe warmers". It'll be cool at first, but you'll warm up quickly, especially if the sun comes out.

For IMLou last year, with temps in the low 40s for the start of the bike, I didn't bother putting on my arm warmers or gloves...just toe warmers. It was cool for the first hour, but after that, it was great.

I think bcagle's advice is sound.
2016-04-07 2:32 PM
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Originally posted by SenatorClayDavis

I think gloves are a really good idea. I've done cold tris before, and having cold wet hands with the wind blowing at them can get pretty miserable. It starts to get hard to shift, and getting out of your helmet and into your shoes in T2 takes significantly longer with frozen hands.


^^^^ This

In low 50's for the most part I would be fine in my trisuit, probably cold for the first 5 miles on the bike depending on the coarse. Lot's of blood will be pumping through your legs and feet, but your hands will get cold fast. Using the brakes and shifting with frozen hands is tough.


2016-04-07 2:53 PM
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Originally posted by Gaber Hey All, I've got my first half distance in two days. The weather forecast is suddenly calling for a light rain and 55-60 degrees. I'm a bit worried about being cold on the bike. I've got a rain jacket, but it's not a great fit. I was thinking regular bike jersey, and arm warmers, and maybe a hat I can wear under my helmet. Any thoughts? Do I need to worry about staying dry? Gabe

You can worry about staying dry, but it won't matter how much you worry.  

History:  I did Flying Pig Marathon in 2010.  Forecast was for rain up until around 11AM (7AM start).  We're meeting at the hotel lobby and another BT'er offers me a trash bag for the walk to the starting corral.  Why?  So I can stay dry(ish) until 6:59?  By 7:10, I'm going to be soaked whether I start with the trash bag or not.  (I wasn't carrying anything that couldn't get wet.)  

Waterproof gear doesn't breathe when it's wet.  You'll be soaked from sweat if you try this approach.  

Without waterproof gear, you're just gonna get wet, especially if it's more than a passing shower.  

With that forecast, I'd probably wear arm warmers, gloves, and toe warmers in addition to your regular kit.  You can always pull these off if the weather warms up or dries out.  

2016-04-07 3:22 PM
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I'm just speculating because I haven't had to race in those conditions yet. I would do toe warmers and gloves if I cared more about speed than comfort. My extremities are easily affected by the cold weather personally. If I wanted to sacrifice time for comfort I would consider arm warmers first and then leg warmers next. All of this is really personal preference for you though. I would definitely dry my body off if I was afraid of being cold. Keep a dry towel in a garbage bag or something and keep it tied/sealed shut so it doesn't get kicked around by others and then just rip it open.
2016-04-07 6:58 PM
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Subject: RE: 70.3 in 55-60 degree weather
Much smaller than you (about 5'7" 115 pounds), but if you are cold-blooded this might be useful. I have raced up to HIM in conditions like that and been happy with a Merino wool pullover with a partial zip in the front that I put on over my tri-suit in T1. It goes on fairly quickly if you leave it in T1 with zipper pulled down and maybe sleeves rolled up, you can pull the zip down all the way and push up the sleeves if you get warm, stays warm when wet (and you will get wet, no matter what, from rain and sweat). Mine fits tightly enough that it's not flapping around, which can be a problem with some jackets. There are a few synthetics that do the same. I got mine at REI but other places probably have something similar. The disadvantage would be if you really do want/need to take it off--you would probably have to stop. But that's never happened in my case. In a few races I've left it on for the run; in others, just thrown it off in T2 if conditions had improved by then.

Edited by Hot Runner 2016-04-07 6:58 PM
2016-04-07 7:28 PM
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You warm up a lot on the swim. 55 degrees on a training ride out the door is much different than 55 degrees after a half hour wet suit swim. Depending on the wind speeds, I'd prolly toss on a pair of wool socks (I hate cold feet) and that's it.
2016-04-07 7:41 PM
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Subject: RE: 70.3 in 55-60 degree weather
I did IMAZ this year in cold/rain/hail. I had my tri kit, arm warmers, gloves and long throwaway socks over my arm warmers. The thing I was most thankful for was the gloves! A jacket would have been nice, but I was ok without it.

People had problems once they stopped moving!!! Everything is fine and dandy if you are riding along generating a lot of heat, but if you get a flat or have mechanical problems, then you stop moving. Changing a flat when your hands are numb and shaking isn't easy and once people got chilled, it was hard to warm up. Lots of people's races ended on the bike course due to hypothermia - in AZ, who would have thought!

I'd bring a good pair of gloves, arm warmers and maybe a pair of throwaway socks (you can ditch them when you want.) Depends on how you get cold on the bike. My hands are always freezing!

I also changed into a dry top before getting on the bike. And I changed before I headed out for the run. It took extra time but worth it IMO.

OH YES, and I packed everything in my transition bags in sealed ziplocs - so the rest of my stuff stayed dry (and clean). There was mud everywhere!

Edited by runspingirl 2016-04-07 7:45 PM


2016-04-07 9:17 PM
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Originally posted by d00d

Originally posted by bcagle25

FWIW I am 180lbs.

Make sure to get a good dry before getting on the bike, takes about 5-10 seconds to dry your body off. Other then that gloves and MAYBE toe warmers and that is all you'll need. You can stuff your gloves in your back pocket when you warm up. Your body will provide plenty of heat.


I'm 5'10" and 150lbs and (for temps 40-50) what I do is just dry off in T1, put on a dry top, have arm warmers and gloves available, and cover my shoes with "toe warmers". It'll be cool at first, but you'll warm up quickly, especially if the sun comes out.

For IMLou last year, with temps in the low 40s for the start of the bike, I didn't bother putting on my arm warmers or gloves...just toe warmers. It was cool for the first hour, but after that, it was great.

I think bcagle's advice is sound.


The KEY is being DRY. If you are dry you should be fine.
2016-04-09 8:01 AM
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Head covering at 10 to 15C ? You will sweat buckets.

Toe covers will work wonders. Maybe gloves & a vest.

Edited by simpsonbo 2016-04-09 8:02 AM
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