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 2016-07-26 12:19 PM in reply to: 0 |
 Seattle |  Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deuxOriginally posted by DaveL Originally posted by Asalzwed I did the 5 peaks trail run series a couple of years ago which was mainly 12 - 13km runs, some of which were fairly rough. This year I have done a 10km trail run and my Xterra race also had a 10km run. Last year I did the Xterra Ontario series. In training for the past 6 weeks I have done a 15,18,20,15,22, and 25km run all on trails. I have also done 1/2 marathons in the past and did do marathon training but went on a kayak trip instead of running the race. Current training load, including biking is about 10 - 12hr/week for the past 6 months. Originally posted by DaveL Words of wisdom required - Skipping the marathon and going straight to a 50km? I cant say that I love running and almost loathe running on the road. I want to do a marathon as there are still distant thoughts of IM but frankly a road marathon sounds dull, trails speak to me. For the last 6 weeks I have been diligently following my 50km plan which is normally 5 runs including an increasing weekly LSD run. I have only missed a single 8km run) I also bike everyday. I am up to 25km on my last long run and the longest run will be 40km 3 week before the race . (its a 16 week plan) All of my long runs have been on easy trails so far. The race I am looking at is a 50km trail run with 4 loops of 12.5km. The course isnt totally flat but it certainly isnt up mountains either. This is the race I am looking at; http://www.runforthetoad.com/home.htmlWha Da Ya Think?
Can you fill me in a little bit on your running history? Any reason why you want to jump right into a 50K vs running some shorter trail stuff? I can absolutely understand the desire to run the trails and not the road! While running on the trails is a lot more...forgiving on the body in my opinion, there is a certain amount of mental (and physical of course) strength needed for being on your feet for 6,7, 8 hours. Depending on the course, running 50K can take a heck of a lot longer than running 26.2 miles on the road. In fact, a heck of a lot longer than running 50K on the road.
I think you could complete a 50K but it does seem that you are missing out of a truly long run on the trails that better simulates what an ultra really feels like. I've run a variety of "ultra" distances out there on the trails including 100+ miles over 3 days which ended up being something like 30 miles one day, 46 miles the next and then 30 the day after that. There is something that happens out there past about 4 hours of running that takes a good amount of mental strength and physical endurance to get through.
*I did look at the event finally and while it doesn't provide an elevation map it appears to me to be one of those "faster" and flatter courses. If this is true, you are probably fine Edited by Asalzwed 2016-07-26 12:21 PM |
| 2016-07-26 12:22 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master  4118  Toronto Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Dave, I did the 25k Toad in 2012. It was an unusually warm day for the time of year but it was fun. As someone who has done a lot of road running it wasn't comparable to a road race and my time was much slower than a half marathon. (Now for me, I was only a bit over a month out from finishing an ironman and unbeknownst to me at the time i was a few weeks pregnant as well). While the Toad is not super technical the terrain changes quite a bit over the loop - some road, some trail, some field grassy trail, some is really rooty. The race is nicely populated but i think the spread once it is just the 50k folks makes it pretty quiet. I would say a 40k run is pretty long for a long run in training but perhaps you do it with planned walk intervals. (The one super steep hill in the Toad i only saw one person run up it - and it would be virtually impossible if it was wet) - at least given you've never run this distance and would be a safe way to build from there. There's not a ton of time - and from my own experience with marathon training it's once you get to those 30k long runs that injury can creep in pretty quickly if you push the pace too hard, in particular. ETA: yes, you want to think about time on your feet, not necessarily a distance or pace as much. Edited by juniperjen 2016-07-26 12:24 PM |
| 2016-07-26 12:47 PM in reply to: DaveL |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by DaveL Originally posted by Asalzwed I did the 5 peaks trail run series a couple of years ago which was mainly 12 - 13km runs, some of which were fairly rough. This year I have done a 10km trail run and my Xterra race also had a 10km run. Last year I did the Xterra Ontario series. In training for the past 6 weeks I have done a 15,18,20,15,22, and 25km run all on trails. I have also done 1/2 marathons in the past and did do marathon training but went on a kayak trip instead of running the race. Current training load, including biking is about 10 - 12hr/week for the past 6 months. Originally posted by DaveL Words of wisdom required - Skipping the marathon and going straight to a 50km? I cant say that I love running and almost loathe running on the road. I want to do a marathon as there are still distant thoughts of IM but frankly a road marathon sounds dull, trails speak to me. For the last 6 weeks I have been diligently following my 50km plan which is normally 5 runs including an increasing weekly LSD run. I have only missed a single 8km run) I also bike everyday. I am up to 25km on my last long run and the longest run will be 40km 3 week before the race . (its a 16 week plan) All of my long runs have been on easy trails so far. The race I am looking at is a 50km trail run with 4 loops of 12.5km. The course isnt totally flat but it certainly isnt up mountains either. This is the race I am looking at; http://www.runforthetoad.com/home.htmlWha Da Ya Think?
Can you fill me in a little bit on your running history? Any reason why you want to jump right into a 50K vs running some shorter trail stuff? I can absolutely understand the desire to run the trails and not the road! While running on the trails is a lot more...forgiving on the body in my opinion, there is a certain amount of mental (and physical of course) strength needed for being on your feet for 6,7, 8 hours. Depending on the course, running 50K can take a heck of a lot longer than running 26.2 miles on the road. In fact, a heck of a lot longer than running 50K on the road.
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| 2016-07-26 1:28 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by DaveL Originally posted by Asalzwed I did the 5 peaks trail run series a couple of years ago which was mainly 12 - 13km runs, some of which were fairly rough. This year I have done a 10km trail run and my Xterra race also had a 10km run. Last year I did the Xterra Ontario series. In training for the past 6 weeks I have done a 15,18,20,15,22, and 25km run all on trails. I have also done 1/2 marathons in the past and did do marathon training but went on a kayak trip instead of running the race. Current training load, including biking is about 10 - 12hr/week for the past 6 months. Originally posted by DaveL Words of wisdom required - Skipping the marathon and going straight to a 50km? I cant say that I love running and almost loathe running on the road. I want to do a marathon as there are still distant thoughts of IM but frankly a road marathon sounds dull, trails speak to me. For the last 6 weeks I have been diligently following my 50km plan which is normally 5 runs including an increasing weekly LSD run. I have only missed a single 8km run) I also bike everyday. I am up to 25km on my last long run and the longest run will be 40km 3 week before the race . (its a 16 week plan) All of my long runs have been on easy trails so far. The race I am looking at is a 50km trail run with 4 loops of 12.5km. The course isnt totally flat but it certainly isnt up mountains either. This is the race I am looking at; http://www.runforthetoad.com/home.htmlWha Da Ya Think?
Can you fill me in a little bit on your running history? Any reason why you want to jump right into a 50K vs running some shorter trail stuff? I can absolutely understand the desire to run the trails and not the road! While running on the trails is a lot more...forgiving on the body in my opinion, there is a certain amount of mental (and physical of course) strength needed for being on your feet for 6,7, 8 hours. Depending on the course, running 50K can take a heck of a lot longer than running 26.2 miles on the road. In fact, a heck of a lot longer than running 50K on the road.
Gotta use all that upper body strength you developed with the marathon training somehow!
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| 2016-07-26 3:07 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Member 2098 Simsbury, Connecticut | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Crazy busy weekend in Lake Placid between training, spectating and then going to a wedding for 2 of the finishers! WOOT!! BUT.....MANATEE MEETUP!!! ME AND MEL! (IMG_20160724_135522.jpg) Attachments ---------------- IMG_20160724_135522.jpg (273KB - 19 downloads) |
| 2016-07-26 3:08 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Veteran 1900  Southampton, Ontario | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by DaveL Originally posted by Asalzwed I did the 5 peaks trail run series a couple of years ago which was mainly 12 - 13km runs, some of which were fairly rough. This year I have done a 10km trail run and my Xterra race also had a 10km run. Last year I did the Xterra Ontario series. In training for the past 6 weeks I have done a 15,18,20,15,22, and 25km run all on trails. I have also done 1/2 marathons in the past and did do marathon training but went on a kayak trip instead of running the race. Current training load, including biking is about 10 - 12hr/week for the past 6 months. Originally posted by DaveL Words of wisdom required - Skipping the marathon and going straight to a 50km? I cant say that I love running and almost loathe running on the road. I want to do a marathon as there are still distant thoughts of IM but frankly a road marathon sounds dull, trails speak to me. For the last 6 weeks I have been diligently following my 50km plan which is normally 5 runs including an increasing weekly LSD run. I have only missed a single 8km run) I also bike everyday. I am up to 25km on my last long run and the longest run will be 40km 3 week before the race . (its a 16 week plan) All of my long runs have been on easy trails so far. The race I am looking at is a 50km trail run with 4 loops of 12.5km. The course isnt totally flat but it certainly isnt up mountains either. This is the race I am looking at; http://www.runforthetoad.com/home.htmlWha Da Ya Think?
Can you fill me in a little bit on your running history? Any reason why you want to jump right into a 50K vs running some shorter trail stuff? I can absolutely understand the desire to run the trails and not the road! While running on the trails is a lot more...forgiving on the body in my opinion, there is a certain amount of mental (and physical of course) strength needed for being on your feet for 6,7, 8 hours. Depending on the course, running 50K can take a heck of a lot longer than running 26.2 miles on the road. In fact, a heck of a lot longer than running 50K on the road.
Gotta use all that upper body strength you developed with the marathon training somehow!
Marathon or this? (dogriver.jpg) Attachments ---------------- dogriver.jpg (48KB - 25 downloads) |
| 2016-07-26 3:13 PM in reply to: DaveL |
| 436 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux I just watched the documentary The Barkley Marathons, it's available on iTunes for $0.99. Does anyone know anyone who's done one of these? Awesome movie and very motivating if you haven't seen it. Just figure I share with the group given all the ultra/marathon talk of late. |
| 2016-07-26 3:21 PM in reply to: TXTriRook |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by TXTriRookI just watched the documentary The Barkley Marathons, it's available on iTunes for $0.99. Does anyone know anyone who's done one of these? Awesome movie and very motivating if you haven't seen it. Just figure I share with the group given all the ultra/marathon talk of late. The podcast I listen to mentions it quite a bit. I'm glad to know its on iTunes thanks! |
| 2016-07-26 3:25 PM in reply to: TXTriRook |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by TXTriRook I just watched the documentary The Barkley Marathons, it's available on iTunes for $0.99. Does anyone know anyone who's done one of these? Awesome movie and very motivating if you haven't seen it. Just figure I share with the group given all the ultra/marathon talk of late. Hahaha I love the RD Gary Cantrell. I don't personally know anyone. It's a pretty select few that get the "opportunity" |
| 2016-07-26 3:26 PM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Crazy busy weekend in Lake Placid between training, spectating and then going to a wedding for 2 of the finishers! WOOT!! BUT.....MANATEE MEETUP!!! ME AND MEL! Awww that's awesome |
| 2016-07-26 3:27 PM in reply to: DaveL |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by DaveL Originally posted by Asalzwed Marathon or this? Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by DaveL Originally posted by Asalzwed I did the 5 peaks trail run series a couple of years ago which was mainly 12 - 13km runs, some of which were fairly rough. This year I have done a 10km trail run and my Xterra race also had a 10km run. Last year I did the Xterra Ontario series. In training for the past 6 weeks I have done a 15,18,20,15,22, and 25km run all on trails. I have also done 1/2 marathons in the past and did do marathon training but went on a kayak trip instead of running the race. Current training load, including biking is about 10 - 12hr/week for the past 6 months. Originally posted by DaveL Words of wisdom required - Skipping the marathon and going straight to a 50km? I cant say that I love running and almost loathe running on the road. I want to do a marathon as there are still distant thoughts of IM but frankly a road marathon sounds dull, trails speak to me. For the last 6 weeks I have been diligently following my 50km plan which is normally 5 runs including an increasing weekly LSD run. I have only missed a single 8km run) I also bike everyday. I am up to 25km on my last long run and the longest run will be 40km 3 week before the race . (its a 16 week plan) All of my long runs have been on easy trails so far. The race I am looking at is a 50km trail run with 4 loops of 12.5km. The course isnt totally flat but it certainly isnt up mountains either. This is the race I am looking at; http://www.runforthetoad.com/home.htmlWha Da Ya Think?
Can you fill me in a little bit on your running history? Any reason why you want to jump right into a 50K vs running some shorter trail stuff? I can absolutely understand the desire to run the trails and not the road! While running on the trails is a lot more...forgiving on the body in my opinion, there is a certain amount of mental (and physical of course) strength needed for being on your feet for 6,7, 8 hours. Depending on the course, running 50K can take a heck of a lot longer than running 26.2 miles on the road. In fact, a heck of a lot longer than running 50K on the road.
Gotta use all that upper body strength you developed with the marathon training somehow!
That is awesome!
Reminds me, I think the record still stands from our state
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| 2016-07-26 3:46 PM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Crazy busy weekend in Lake Placid between training, spectating and then going to a wedding for 2 of the finishers! WOOT!! BUT.....MANATEE MEETUP!!! ME AND MEL! Nice! |
| 2016-07-26 3:49 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
| 436 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by TXTriRook I just watched the documentary The Barkley Marathons, it's available on iTunes for $0.99. Does anyone know anyone who's done one of these? Awesome movie and very motivating if you haven't seen it. Just figure I share with the group given all the ultra/marathon talk of late. Hahaha I love the RD Gary Cantrell. I don't personally know anyone. It's a pretty select few that get the "opportunity" He seems like such a character. Collecting clothes and licence plates as entry fees. Nuts! Opportunity is definitely one way to describe it. Apparently this documentary has really driven up the interest level but (for now) he's still keeping it to 30 or 40 participants. Gotta love the old school / not greedy mentality of this one. |
| 2016-07-26 4:12 PM in reply to: TXTriRook |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by TXTriRook Originally posted by Asalzwed He seems like such a character. Collecting clothes and licence plates as entry fees. Nuts! Opportunity is definitely one way to describe it. Apparently this documentary has really driven up the interest level but (for now) he's still keeping it to 30 or 40 participants. Gotta love the old school / not greedy mentality of this one. Originally posted by TXTriRook I just watched the documentary The Barkley Marathons, it's available on iTunes for $0.99. Does anyone know anyone who's done one of these? Awesome movie and very motivating if you haven't seen it. Just figure I share with the group given all the ultra/marathon talk of late. Hahaha I love the RD Gary Cantrell. I don't personally know anyone. It's a pretty select few that get the "opportunity" I previously had no baseline to compare Jared Campbell to. No elite status trail runners had attempted it to my knowledge. When Gary Robbins failed and wrote his report I now know how truly badazz Jared is. http://garyrobbinsrun.com/blog/2016/4/barkley
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| 2016-07-27 5:26 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Expert 1694 Illinois | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by brigby1 Found a 5 1/4" floppy disk in some older stuff at work. Showed it to a few of the 20-something engineers. "What is that?" - All of them "It's a floppy disk" - Me "I thought they had a harder case?" Guys my age lit up with how awesome it was to find one of these. Wow, nice find. Any idea what is on the disk? It would be tricky to find a computer that can even read one of those |
| 2016-07-27 6:59 AM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
| 812 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Crazy busy weekend in Lake Placid between training, spectating and then going to a wedding for 2 of the finishers! WOOT!! BUT.....MANATEE MEETUP!!! ME AND MEL! "Like" |
| 2016-07-27 7:14 AM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Crazy busy weekend in Lake Placid between training, spectating and then going to a wedding for 2 of the finishers! WOOT!! BUT.....MANATEE MEETUP!!! ME AND MEL! Love it! |
| 2016-07-27 7:41 AM in reply to: abake |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by abake Originally posted by brigby1 Wow, nice find. Any idea what is on the disk? It would be tricky to find a computer that can even read one of those Found a 5 1/4" floppy disk in some older stuff at work. Showed it to a few of the 20-something engineers. "What is that?" - All of them "It's a floppy disk" - Me "I thought they had a harder case?" Guys my age lit up with how awesome it was to find one of these. Just some type of driver. Nothing exciting with that. |
| 2016-07-27 8:27 AM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by mtnbikerchk love those smilesCrazy busy weekend in Lake Placid between training, spectating and then going to a wedding for 2 of the finishers! WOOT!! BUT.....MANATEE MEETUP!!! ME AND MEL! |
| 2016-07-27 12:38 PM in reply to: StaceyK |
Champion 14677 Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by StaceyK Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Crazy busy weekend in Lake Placid between training, spectating and then going to a wedding for 2 of the finishers! WOOT!! BUT.....MANATEE MEETUP!!! ME AND MEL! love those smiles Manatee meetup!! squee! |
| 2016-07-27 1:41 PM in reply to: 0 |
Regular 980 Caerphilly, Wales, uk. | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Some trainer ride fodder for y'all......https://vimeo.com/176424978 Edited by Richardsdrr 2016-07-27 1:42 PM |
| 2016-07-27 11:04 PM in reply to: Richardsdrr |
Master 8247 Eugene, Oregon Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Race report for Calgary is up. You probably shouldn't read it with hot coffee in your mouth if you want to visualize my snafus in T1 and T2. I always manage to transition with style! Pics may have to wait a few days owing to technical difficulties! |
| 2016-07-28 8:07 AM in reply to: Hot Runner |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by Hot Runner Race report for Calgary is up. You probably shouldn't read it with hot coffee in your mouth if you want to visualize my snafus in T1 and T2. I always manage to transition with style! Pics may have to wait a few days owing to technical difficulties! Good report and good race! I know how frustrating it can be to screw up in transition, but I think you must have done a good job regaining your composure and having a good race. |
| 2016-07-28 8:16 AM in reply to: JBacarella |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Good news here. They sprung my Dad from the hospital last night and now he is at my wife's nursing home for cardiac rehab. He was the happiest guy around when I told him I was coming to pick him up and bring him back here and he would be with my Mom. For us we will get a little bit of respite and hopefully I can get my training back on track. |
| 2016-07-28 8:43 AM in reply to: JBacarella |
Master 2429 Falls Church, Virginia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by JBacarella Good news here. They sprung my Dad from the hospital last night and now he is at my wife's nursing home for cardiac rehab. He was the happiest guy around when I told him I was coming to pick him up and bring him back here and he would be with my Mom. For us we will get a little bit of respite and hopefully I can get my training back on track. That's good news indeed! |
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