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LV, Nevada
United States
45F / 7C
Total Time = 3h 29m
Overall Rank = /
Age Group =
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Pre-race routine:

Oatmeal/2 bananas
Event warmup:

Walk to the start - did BMG drills
Run
  • 3h 29m
  • 26.22 miles
  • 07m 58s  min/mile
Comments:

My goal for this race was to run 2:53-2:55, come hell or high water - but it wasn't meant to be. I don't care about a BQ - my own standard is 3:00 or below for Boston. I wouldn't run Boston with a time over 3:00. That may change in 5 years, but for now, that's my personal standard. The old BQ time is sub 2:50 which is where I would like to get to long term. I listed my mile splits above, And the gaps were unreal in aid stations and mile markers - not even with a 1/2 mile in some instances. I usually run by effort and not pace in a longer race, but it is nice to have some assurance that you are on track during a long race. So - everything was clicking through mile 6 - no wind yet - I went through 6 at like 39:19 or 6:33 pace - pretty easily, legs felt great, lungs weren't working hard. Life was good. After mile 6 we turn into the side wind. The next mile came up and my time was 9:11 - huh - ? - whatever - they have mismarked a mile - then I hit the next marker in 8:55 - what is going on here? - just kept running - keeping the same effort - went through 10 at 1:08 or 6:48 - but now I don't even know if that's right, and right after 10 we go right into the wind and the rollers. The rollers weren't bad, but the wind was steady, no breaks in it whatsoever - just a steady wind - relentless - and a bit demoalizing - but I am sticking to my goal of 2:55 - I don't care about 2:59 or 3:01 or anything else - I usually race pretty conservatively and today was one time that I was going to push from the start to see what would happen - In the 7 miles my times ranged from 5:31 to 11:09 - some miles were 6:45, but I don't even know if they were right - so I just kept plugging along. I lost my gel flask at mile 16 or so and I couldn't get my endurolytes out of my flask holder - just a beatch of a day - anyway, once I got to mile 18, I had been drilling myself for 12 miles into that wind and mentally I was fried - I was pulling a few guys along who I asked to take a pull - of course they said they couldn't but when we got to mile 16 or 17, they pulled away. Thanks guys! ;-) - so at mile 18 I pulled the plug, which I don't often do, but I was determined to run 2:55, took a chance and it wasn't my day. Being the last race of the season I was going to change race tactics a bit. But once I hit mile 18 at 2:03, I knew it wasn't going to happen unless I ran 6:15 the rest of the way in for the last 8 miles, so I just cruised it in, got my fluids at each aid station, took a potty stop, worked out some hamstring cramps - one thing I learned about slowing down, is that once you do, it's hard to run faster again! Once I got into my 8:30 pace I couldn't go back to the 7:00 pace. So I chugged it in and used the last 2 miles as cool down - I even walked from mile 24-25 and it only took my 8:34 - I don't think that mile was right either. When I ran from mile 25-26, that took me 3:24 or something. Weird.
What would you do differently?:

Nothing.
Post race
Warm down:

Walked back to car. Ice bath later - water was 48 degrees - took a shower - did the ice bath again. Legs felt great after and great now too.

What limited your ability to perform faster:

Wind!

Event comments:

Race packet pick up was organized, but once we left the city limits the mile markers were screwy, and post race food wasn't existent. Bummer on this race- other than those things, I would reccomend this race.




Last updated: 2006-09-13 12:00 AM
Running
03:29:00 | 26.22 miles | 07m 58s  min/mile
Age Group: 0/
Overall: 0/
Performance: Good
Mile Splits: Mile 2: 13:30 Mile 3: 7:08 Mile 4: 7:03 Mile 5: 6:07 Mile 6: 5:33 Mile 7: 9:11 Mile 8: 8:55 Mile 9: 4:06 Mile 10: 6:22 Mile 11: 6:45 Mile 12: 8:07 Mile 13: 6:57 Mile 14: 5:21 Mile 15: 6:45 Mile 16: 11:09 Mile 17: 4:53 Mile 18: 5:02 Mile 19: 8:55 Mile 20: 7:35 Mile 21: 12:45 Mile 22: 7:43 Mile 23/24: 27:07 Mile 25: 10:14 Mile 26.2: 11:13
Course: Down the strip, through the Fremont Experience, out into the Western end of Vegas, iow into the wind, then then a loop back.
Keeping cool Good Drinking Just right
Post race
Weight change: %
Overall: Good
Mental exertion [1-5] 5
Physical exertion [1-5] 3
Good race? Yes
Evaluation
Course challenge Just right
Organized? No
Events on-time? Yes
Lots of volunteers? Yes
Plenty of drinks? Yes
Post race activities: Bad
Race evaluation [1-5] 2

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2006-12-11 12:28 PM

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2006-12-11 12:34 PM
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Bummer!  Those races happen sometimes don't they.  Chalk it up to whatever huh?  Wind and hills can kill a race plan.  Congrats on finishing at least and not DNFing. 
2006-12-11 12:35 PM
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Sorry it wasn't your day!

The screwy mile markers would have driven me crazy!!!

Did you win any money in Vegas at least?

2006-12-11 12:55 PM
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Bummer! Sorry it wasn't all you wanted it to be.
2006-12-11 1:01 PM
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Sounds like you need a Garmin 305! I never trust mile markers anymore.

Sounds like hellacious winds that can have that big of an impact.
2006-12-11 1:15 PM
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yeah I found the mile markers were about 1/4 mile out side the city last year like by the outlet mall there. I guess LV should be knowned as a windy marathon since it was very windy by the northern airport last year.

Last year they had 2 19mile markers. crazy.

Well you can not do your best every race. beauty of any endurance race is its work and you never know what will happen. Still your time was very good for most people out there.

I understand your BQ standards. The exciting thing about boston is getting to boston but so many people I know once they do Boston once they do not care to do it again. If you BQ most every year then its not so special either.

Too bad about the food but I did not find any last year either. Did they have it where you can get your pic taken with a showgirl? .



2006-12-11 1:18 PM
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Nothing like a sustained headwind for miles and miles to suck your will to live.  Too bad, but way to suck it up and get to the finish.  
2006-12-11 2:09 PM
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thanks for sharing an experience that others can learn from.  You know, that whole thing about how slowing down and deciding to pull the plug on a race doesn't JUST mean slowing down could be interesting fodder for an article.  I'll bet few people think of the change in their stride and what that can do to their body after 10, 15, 18 miles of doing it a different way.
2006-12-11 2:19 PM
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Mike, sorry you didn't hit your target.  I can empathize with the strong headwinds being demoralizing - sounds like my last race at Grandmas.  You'll get 'er next time!  Happy holidays.
2006-12-11 3:12 PM
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Hey Mike, I know that you did not reach your goal time, but finishing this thing out with a ~3:30 is pretty darn cool.

Wind, Pesky Mile Markers seemed to really take there toll mentally and physically. (Would have driven me nuts as well) You obviously have the fitness to reach your goal, the trick is to pick a good race and a reasonable day and crank it.

I agree totally about the "Can't Speed Up" once you "Slow Down" part. A friend if mine is a Sub-3 marathoner and his trick is to add a little speed when he starts to feel bad. I guess it sort of avoids the problem all together.

Look forward to your next race report
2006-12-11 4:02 PM
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Thanks for all the comments folks. I don't feel bad one bit about the race - after watching IM Kona coverage on Saturday, I think I have a lot to be thanksful for and having a slower than I would have liked race doesn't phase me in the least. It won't be my last  bad race and it's not my first either. Lucky for me I don't tie my self worth into my race results anymore.

I am walking normal today so I can tell my fitness is pretty good (quick recovery time = good fitness for me). I was toying with idea of running Phoenix in Jan but I thought better of it. I'll run a fast sea level marathon at some point, maybe Austin next spring (2008).

Right now I have to get back to the 100+ emails I got from the NBC telecast - even got one from Mike Reilly himself! Pretty cool. Team Blazeman is picking up speed very quickly.

:-)



2006-12-11 4:20 PM
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2006-12-11 7:29 PM
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Sorry to read that your race didn't go as well as you wanted.  I did the 1/2 mary, and that wind was horrible.  I wish I knew you were going to be in LV.  I would've liked to have said hello. 
2006-12-11 9:56 PM
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Good job getting through that race. I thought the mile markers were off at 5 or 6. At least you had mile markers because I didn't see any on the half after we left the freemont mall and had our six miles into the wind.


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2006-12-12 8:50 AM
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You pushed through and probably learned a lot at the same time. I totally agree, once the pace starts to slip, unless something of a miracle happens it's hard to get it back down. At that point it's just damage control .......
2006-12-12 10:05 AM
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Glad that the wind wasn't just it my head. It was a killer. Mile markers were crazy off.

I heard rumors that there was food somewhere, but I sure didn't feel like walking all over creation to find it.



2006-12-12 11:04 AM
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Too bad about the race conditions.  You were prepared but it just wasn't ment to be.  IMO you still ran a good race. 

The misplaced mile markers would have driven me crazy.  I'm not experienced enough to run without pace feedback.  I ran White Rock this weekend.  At each mile marker there was a volunteer calling out the time and pace. 

2006-12-13 10:00 AM
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All in all maybe a crappy race, but good decisions.  No reason to fight so hard not to make your goal and then to have a worse recovery too.  Way to hang in there and have the umph to finish too.  There's always next time
2006-12-13 4:16 PM
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Sorry the day didnt go as planned. I have had a few of those I think...

 

 

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