IM training without a plan
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2007-02-06 10:47 PM |
Regular 61 | Subject: IM training without a plan I hate training plans. I like to train how I feel, do group workouts when it's possible, not stress out when I have to work late, go hard when I want, go easy when I want, take off when I want, race when I want. This has served me fine in marathons, two half-ironmen, even a 50 mile ultra. No heart rate training, no set workout days, just training to have fun, but making sure I get in shape, do the long workouts, do all the disciplines. I just have so much fun training this way, I hate to do it any other way. I don't win races, but I love every minute of training, or maybe I should say "working out". I didn't really have problems or doubts with the other distances, but I don't want to blow this IM thing. My question is, has anyone taken this approach with the IM, and what was your experience like? Any tips or tricks based on what you experienced? I see tons of training plans that lay out every day for the 30 weeks leading up to an IM, and have heard testimonials about training like this, but surely someone out there has "trained" like I do, and happily finished the IM? |
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2007-02-06 11:49 PM in reply to: #682173 |
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2007-02-07 12:37 AM in reply to: #682173 |
Extreme Veteran 471 Maryland | Subject: RE: IM training without a plan I became a slave to a 12 week training plan. However, I couldn't have finished without it as I would have let my job take all my time. It was a good excuse to get out of the office. If I do the IM again, I will have my own plan and take it more casually. Why not try to get one that looks doable and just be certain you can do the longest training days out of every week or two weeks as a check fo your performance...kinda will keep you on track. Best of luck...let us know what you decide... CP2K |
2007-02-07 8:13 AM in reply to: #682203 |
Giver 18427 | Subject: RE: IM training without a plan JeepFleeb - 2007-02-07 12:49 AM Your mileage may vary. Yes. Aaron's a freak. But then again, I set a marathon PR on almost literally zero training. |
2007-02-07 9:45 AM in reply to: #682203 |
Master 2299 New York | Subject: RE: IM training without a plan JeepFleeb - 2007-02-06 11:49 PM Your mileage may vary. Translation = you'll do less than me. As Aaron is ridiculous. As in awesome. |
2007-02-07 12:40 PM in reply to: #682173 |
Member 14 | Subject: RE: IM training without a plan FWIW I do not follow a plan either. I train as much as I can and I try to balance the three events. I tried to follow a plan for a 1/2 IM last year and it took the fun out of training for me. I am registered for IMLP this year and I'm sure I'll do fine. |
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2007-02-07 12:53 PM in reply to: #682173 |
Extreme Veteran 445 pinoy city | Subject: RE: IM training without a plan if this is yoyr first you need some sort of a plan. if you have abig endurance base you can get away with it. I think most important is the nutrition plan! |
2007-02-07 1:09 PM in reply to: #682364 |
Expert 1103 Plano, TX | Subject: RE: IM training without a plan run4yrlif - 2007-02-07 8:13 AM JeepFleeb - 2007-02-07 12:49 AM Your mileage may vary. Yes. Aaron's a freak. But then again, I set a marathon PR on almost literally zero training. Yes, but was it your first marathon? Edited by davidb 2007-02-07 1:10 PM |
2007-02-07 2:04 PM in reply to: #682173 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: IM training without a plan There's no reason you need a highly structured plan, especially if it would take the fun out of it for you. But you could put a "plan" together much the way it sounds like you have done so far ("get in shape, do the long workouts, do all the disciplines". Probably a good idea to set targets for yourself over a few weeks or month at a time. As long as you're hitting those targets (swim 10 times, do 2 rides over 4 hours, 4 runs at leat 2 hours...whatever they may be) then you're good. If not, you'll either have to rethink race goals or try to alter your training somewhat. I actually enjoy structure so detailed plans work for me. But if you don't enjoy that then definately find another way. |
2007-02-07 2:21 PM in reply to: #682173 |
Elite 2552 Evans, GA | Subject: RE: IM training without a plan I'm no expert, but the major injury I had to my shin was while winging it. One benefit of a plan is that it helps you prevent overtraining, which is a major issue for beginners (like me). Just my 2c. Edited by Bluejack 2007-02-07 2:21 PM |
2007-02-07 2:43 PM in reply to: #682930 |
Giver 18427 | Subject: RE: IM training without a plan davidb - 2007-02-07 2:09 PM run4yrlif - 2007-02-07 8:13 AM JeepFleeb - 2007-02-07 12:49 AM Your mileage may vary. Yes. Aaron's a freak. But then again, I set a marathon PR on almost literally zero training. Yes, but was it your first marathon? No...it was my 7th! |
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2007-02-07 7:12 PM in reply to: #683018 |
Regular 61 | Subject: RE: IM training without a plan JohnnyKay - 2007-02-07 2:04 PM Probably a good idea to set targets for yourself over a few weeks or month at a time. As long as you're hitting those targets (swim 10 times, do 2 rides over 4 hours, 4 runs at leat 2 hours...whatever they may be) then you're good. Yeah, that's pretty much how I have done it in the past and plan to do it for IM, just to give myself some goals. Based on everyone's posts, I think I'm going to go around and do what I want, but with beIRONfit as a loose guide to prevent the overtraining/injury that Bluejack is talking about, and which I'm more worried about then being undertrained. |
2007-02-07 7:53 PM in reply to: #682173 |
Master 1686 Royersford, PA | Subject: RE: IM training without a plan You mean I was supposed to have a plan? Darn I knew I forgot something!! I tried to follow the Ironfit plan but that lasted about 4 days, since I can't seem to swim more than once a week. Anyway other than using it as a guide to schedule milestone races, I just did 3 weeks on and 1 week rest and tried to work the milage up slowly to where I thought it should be. I guess it worked, my ironman went great, not blazing fast or anything, but I met my prerace goals and felt pretty good all day. Have fun! Edited by southwestmba 2007-02-07 7:55 PM |
2007-02-07 9:03 PM in reply to: #683478 |
Regular 61 | Subject: RE: IM training without a plan southwestmba - 2007-02-07 7:53 PM You mean I was supposed to have a plan? Darn I knew I forgot something!! I tried to follow the Ironfit plan but that lasted about 4 days, since I can't seem to swim more than once a week. Anyway other than using it as a guide to schedule milestone races, I just did 3 weeks on and 1 week rest and tried to work the milage up slowly to where I thought it should be. I guess it worked, my ironman went great, not blazing fast or anything, but I met my prerace goals and felt pretty good all day. Have fun! Now that is exactly what I wanted to hear. |
2007-02-08 7:28 AM in reply to: #682173 |
Online or Offline | Subject: RE: IM training without a plan I basically winged my way through the IMFL 2006 training. I have no idea if I was overtrained going into the race (but I felt good and rested). I am sure there is a plan out there that could have made me faster and stronger, but I didn't want to deal with it. As long as I didn't get injured on the way to the starting line, I was happy with how things went. Like you, once I get bored or feel like I "have" to do a certain training plan I risk resenting the program and no longer enjoy the journey. Besides that, I travel for a living and not having my bike or lap pool to train in when I am supposed to as per some plan.....well, that won't work. So being away, I just had to do what I could. I spent the whole summer playing - doing organized rides, ocean swim races, and finding new places to explore while on my long runs. I did all the long stuff as long as I felt my body could handle it, and when I was dog tired, then I rested. But not once did I have any resentments getting prepped for IMFL. I didn't use a HRM when I trained either. NOW..... Since I signed up for Lake Placid in July, it is only 8 months from my first IM in FL. I never really quite felt like I recovered from IMFL -- in that rejuvenated, chomping at the bit kind of way. It has been 3 months since IMFL, and only 164 days to go til Lake Placid. YIIIIKES. Training sucks in the winter here in New England, and if I was winging it to get to this race, I'd probably wait til March to start training. THIS TIME AROUND, I also knew that I'd have to need a little more structure and help since I don't feel like I gave my body enough down time. I picked a 30-wk program to follow this time and I am training with a HRM. I HATE TRAINING WITH MY HRM, and I'm already altering the training plan to accommodate some fun runs I want to do with my friends. For the most part if you've already done marathons and HIMs, I think you already have a very good grasp of how your body works. It's not like you've only done 5K sprints and want to know how to train for a long endurance event. I say go with your own whims on your training for your IM. In my opinion, a training plan might make you faster during your race, (or even make you enjoy your race more because you are more trained up for it), but 30 weeks, 6 mos, or whatever is a LONG TIME to gut out some training program you'll absolutely resent. I had great memories of a fun summer "training" and was a little sad when my 13:23 IMFL was over as opposed to that "I'm SO glad that stupid thing is behind me!" feeling. |
2007-02-08 1:09 PM in reply to: #682173 |
Extreme Veteran 400 | Subject: What a great thread! I've never been able to adhere to a plan, even a weekly plan I made myself. Too much comes up and I have to juggle. I thought I was just a slacker! I see these plans in books, and think "oh, this is the fantasy fiction section!" . |
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2007-02-08 9:57 PM in reply to: #683711 |
Regular 61 | Subject: RE: IM training without a plan TypeA Girl Pilot - 2007-02-08 7:28 AM I had great memories of a fun summer "training" and was a little sad when my 13:23 IMFL was over as opposed to that "I'm SO glad that stupid thing is behind me!" feeling. Once again, and even more so, exactly what I wanted to hear. |
2007-02-11 6:09 PM in reply to: #682173 |
Regina, Saskatchewan | Subject: RE: IM training without a plan I have only done a few HIMs but like to use a training plan. It used to bother me but now I just look up what I have to do and just do it. I'm getting pretty good at avoiding the mental excuses. Prior to the following week I will spend some time and go over whats in store for the full week. I then move things around to accomodate what might conflict with work & family. I still do whats in the plan but change the days and exercises around. |
2007-02-12 12:30 PM in reply to: #682173 |
Extreme Veteran 492 Home port | Subject: RE: IM training without a plan You're all wrong! Just Kidding. We all know from x amount of years training and racing, that one plan does not fit all. I use the 1/2 IM plan on this site, only because it is easy to read, understand, and I dont have to waste time coming up with a plan of my own. I certainly dont follow it exactly, for instance I wont put it the amount and frequency that the plan calls for for swimming. I know what my body can and cant do, so I definitely tweak the plan so it works for my schedule and family. If you havent done many races, I would follow the schedule as close as possible, especially, making sure you hit those goals or milestones(100 mile bike, 3-4 hr run, etc) before you do the IM. |
2007-02-12 1:57 PM in reply to: #682173 |
Master 1254 Chesapeake, VA | Subject: RE: IM training without a plan This whole thread makes me feel good as I have the exact same issue as the original poster. I do much better training at my own pace/time/feeling and that has served me well to date. For IM CdA, I am not following a specific plan to the letter. Rather, I am using the Beginner IM plan on this site as a benchmark for weekly volume goals (to avoid over-training, under-training). This is the only way I can figure out how to train while balancing LIFE. Not to mention the fact that I also want to enjoy my training experience. If I HAD to do x y & z each day I would go crazy and grow to hate training. The whole point of the IM experience for me is personal and has nothing to do with finish time. If training by 'my plan' costs me 30 minutes on race day, I am very okay with that as I know I will enjoy the experience leading up to the race even more. |
2007-02-12 3:11 PM in reply to: #682173 |
Cycling Guru 15134 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: IM training without a plan You do what you want and what works best for you. If it is just your goal to finish, then you can pretty much do anything you want as long as it involves a lot of aerobic base training. But did you ever stop to think why all the pros use some sort of plan and why the coaching industry is so successful??? Just sayin' .......... |
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2007-02-13 3:39 PM in reply to: #682173 |
Extreme Veteran 400 | Subject: RE: IM training without a plan You're right Daremo, and I know that the people who write the books and articles know what they are talking about, and if I got a coach, or even just followed the general advice, I'd be faster and stronger. But I'm not a pro, and 15 minutes or even an hour-and-a -half isn't going to mean $100, ooo to me. I guess it's just not worth it to me to put in the effort and attention to follow a detailed plan, considering that other areas of my life would have to pay some sacrifice. So....someday I may get that serious, but for now it's not likely I'll be following any detailed training plan. If we meet at a race, look back, and I'll wave to you! |
2007-02-13 4:05 PM in reply to: #682173 |
New user 21 Washington | Subject: RE: IM training without a plan my training plan sounds kinda like yours! i did IM CDA last year w/a time of 13:11, 2 hours faster than anticipated, and i didn't follow a strict training plan. i've also done a few marathons the same way, kind of on the fly. if you have the base endurance and training down, you should be fine! |