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2007-07-31 9:48 AM

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Subject: IM reg. changes - no more 3rd party sign ups
Just got this update. I'm glad the rest of us will have a better chance from now on.

Just got off the phone with Melody at NA Sports. 888-280-9097, ext. 27. She told me that starting with this year's Ironman Wisconsin (including Ironman Canada, which had this process in place last year already), all site registrants for Ironman North America events must be on site themselves.
You will not be allowed to sign anyone else up besides yourself. As opposed to signing up in Lake Placid, for example, where you could just write anyone's name and e-mail address, you will be required to show photo ID for your own registration. Once those slots have been allocated, on-line registration will begin, so have your mouse-clicking fingers ready.

She said it has become unfair to internet applicants who get shut out too
soon because slots are limited.



2007-07-31 11:39 AM
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That should have been the rule all along. Maybe I won't have to go to IMLP next year to sign up.
2007-07-31 12:02 PM
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I agree. I think this is great.
2007-07-31 12:07 PM
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Even though 3rd-party reg is what got me a IMLP spot for 2008, I like the rule .

2007-07-31 12:07 PM
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Subject: RE: IM reg. changes - no more 3rd party sign ups

cobannero - 2007-07-31 10:48 AM starting with this year's Ironman Wisconsin 

Do you know if this applies to IMKY which is two weeks before Wisconsin??

2007-07-31 12:26 PM
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Subject: RE: IM reg. changes - no more 3rd party sign ups
mykle15 - 2007-07-31 12:07 PM

cobannero - 2007-07-31 10:48 AM starting with this year's Ironman Wisconsin 

Do you know if this applies to IMKY which is two weeks before Wisconsin??

NA Sports doesn't run KY.  They may, or may not, follow the same rules.



2007-07-31 12:36 PM
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I disagree with it ...... it is pretty darn easy to ask someone to sign you up on site just in case you can't be there, or don't have access to a computer on that day.  But that's jsut me.

Everyone wants a piece of the brand, so they will still sell out in less than two hours (IMLP, IMCA, IMWI, IMFL that is ...... CDA and AZ will still take time).  But all NA Sports is doing is pushing all the blame on Active now and not taking any responsibility for their own booking.  Everyone knows how reliable Active is and how good their servers are ...... they never go down during IM sign-ups .... Innocent

2007-07-31 12:55 PM
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I think it sucks too, because I already had my plan in place for a compadre to sign me up for IMWI next year.  Dagnabbit!
2007-08-05 7:45 AM
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Did Melanie also say that you had to pay the registration fee upfront if you register in person as well?

I bet IMNA really doesn't care about how many people can or can't get online registration. As long as a few weeks later they get $475 from each of the vouchers they hand out on registration day, they couldn't care less WHERE it came from.

I'm willing to bet that they are seeing that a large enough percentage of the vouchers (probably 3rd party ones) aren't ponying up the fee. They were probably ones who said, "Oh if my friend is gonna do it next year, maybe I will too. Get me a voucher and I'll sit on it til I have to actually pay". Chances are that if a person him/herself were to stand in line for a voucher, that s/he will commit to the race.

IMNA knows that they can sell out these slots, but if all the vouchers aren't being accounted for, it creates more work for them to put them into lottery or charity fund slots. So without much more information, I don't think that it is out of the mercy of people trying to register online, it's about selling out all the slots in the simplest manner. Money first. Then the athletes.

I disagree with it ...... it is pretty darn easy to ask someone to sign you up on site just in case you can't be there, or don't have access to a computer on that day.  But that's jsut me.


Just as easy as it is to ask someone else to sign you up on site, you can have someone else to sign you up on the computer. Granted, you would have to have a little bit of trust in this person since you'd have to give them your CC#. They'll also have to have your health insurance info.

That's what I had to do to get into IMFL 2006. I didn't know anyone who was going to be standing in line for the registration (or even if 3rd party vouchers were allowed back then) and was flying, obviously with no online access.

I saw pics of people sleeping overnight in line for Lake Placid 2009....I don't know....perhaps they got there at the a$scrack of dawn, and went back to sleep waiting for the registration to open. I don't know if I'm at that point of Ironman Idolization yet though. Ironman registrations are going down in history with iPhones, XBox (or is it Playstation?), Tickle Me Elmos....etc.

Crazy.

NO. I think those people slept overnight there.

 

2007-08-06 11:40 AM
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sounds like my IM sign up worm will not be needed. it will made to turn 90,000 pcs into zombies to try to sign up for IMWI. figure only way to get in is have 90,000 pcs trying to sign you up all at onces.
2007-08-06 12:10 PM
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I think that the entire "trying to get into Ironman X" like it's a U2 concert is just ridiculous. It's is however  a financial dream for NA Multisports and and WTC. What other industry do you have people pay for your product a year in advance?


2007-08-06 1:19 PM
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Rocket Man -  What other industry do you have people pay for your product a year in advance?

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2007-08-06 1:22 PM
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Birkierunner - 2007-08-06 1:19 PM

Rocket Man -  What other industry do you have people pay for your product a year in advance?

Burial plots



Do they have any sort of waiting list or transfer policy? Seems like an IM would be something people may get hurt or realise they bit off more than they can chew when they sign up since you have to sign up so early.
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2007-08-06 1:35 PM
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Subject: RE: IM reg. changes - no more 3rd party sign ups
JeepFleeb - 2007-08-06 1:32 PM

chirunner134 - 2007-08-06 1:22 PM
Do they have any sort of waiting list or transfer policy? Seems like an IM would be something people may get hurt or realise they bit off more than they can chew when they sign up since you have to sign up so early.

Nope.  You pay the money and either race or the spot goes unused.



I wonder what the show up vs non show up percent is? Most races figure 10% will not show up but I think IM would be either higher because its so in advance or lower because it costs so much people make sure they go no matter what.
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