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Swimming with Band only: my favorite drill
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 2014-04-08 9:09 AM |
New user  230   penticton |  Subject: Swimming with Band only: my favorite drillIt s my training partner, Tom Evans that initiated me to the Band only swimming drill in 2004. He loved doing those and as we trained together...i had to get with the program! As i got back to my regular squad swims, my coach Joel Filliol decided to try a little experiment where i would swim with band only anytimes there is a pull set. So what ever the others do pulling..i would do with a band only. i believe the experiment lasted 6 months or so. The interesting thing is, swimming with a band might sound hard...but it s highly technical and when you finally understand how to keep your body high on the water, it become rather easy to do so. I progressed to hold 1:20-25s/100m on longer sets of 400s and could swim 1500-2000m of it in practice with very little issue. Transferring those skill to my normal freestyle made a amazing difference in pace...it was definitely a precious tool for me as a athlete Now standing on the pool deck as a coach, i have to say it s one of my favorite drill to use to teach triathlete to swim ''on top'' of the water, to kept a high turnover and be aware of any slippage in their catch. I suggest you start with 50s at first as until you master the technical part... it can be a grueling effort. But remember... if you can apply those concept...the results can be spectacular for your every day swimming. hope this video can help some of you! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg-GB2_lPyI |
| 2014-04-08 9:44 AM in reply to: jonnyo |
Master 3205  ann arbor, michigan | Subject: RE: Swimming with Band only: my favorite drill I just want to thank you for coming on and giving your coaching tips. Loved tip number five about arm position for the catch. I have been doing a lot of body position work recently and this looks like a great addition to my drills. |
| 2014-04-08 10:19 AM in reply to: wannabefaster |
Veteran 976 New Hampshire | Subject: RE: Swimming with Band only: my favorite drill Originally posted by wannabefaster I just want to thank you for coming on and giving your coaching tips. Loved tip number five about arm position for the catch. I have been doing a lot of body position work recently and this looks like a great addition to my drills. x2. Always good posts with a ton of information in them, and videos to boot. |
| 2014-04-08 10:33 AM in reply to: jonnyo |
| 553 St Catharines, Ontario | Subject: RE: Swimming with Band only: my favorite drill A drill to help you better execute a drill to help you swim better. Its the Inception of swim training! An awesome thing to share. |
| 2014-04-08 10:50 AM in reply to: jonnyo |
| 98 , Idaho | Subject: RE: Swimming with Band only: my favorite drill Thank you. I've been using a band for a few months, but haven't been able to understand how to use it effectively without a pull buoy until watching your video. Awesome stuff! |
| 2014-04-08 11:00 AM in reply to: jonnyo |
Expert 2355 Madison, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Swimming with Band only: my favorite drill Originally posted by jonnyo It s my training partner, Tom Evans that initiated me to the Band only swimming drill in 2004. He loved doing those and as we trained together...i had to get with the program! As i got back to my regular squad swims, my coach Joel Filliol decided to try a little experiment where i would swim with band only anytimes there is a pull set. So what ever the others do pulling..i would do with a band only. i believe the experiment lasted 6 months or so. The interesting thing is, swimming with a band might sound hard...but it s highly technical and when you finally understand how to keep your body high on the water, it become rather easy to do so. I progressed to hold 1:20-25s/100m on longer sets of 400s and could swim 1500-2000m of it in practice with very little issue. Transferring those skill to my normal freestyle made a amazing difference in pace...it was definitely a precious tool for me as a athlete Now standing on the pool deck as a coach, i have to say it s one of my favorite drill to use to teach triathlete to swim ''on top'' of the water, to kept a high turnover and be aware of any slippage in their catch. I suggest you start with 50s at first as until you master the technical part... it can be a grueling effort. But remember... if you can apply those concept...the results can be spectacular for your every day swimming. hope this video can help some of you! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg-GB2_lPyI Thanks Jonnyo. People hate and fear bands, but it does what swimming without one isn't as effective in teaching. High turnover and staying on top of the water. I hear it all the time when swimmers start to swim on top of the water. It's like a "I got it" moment. |
| 2014-04-08 12:45 PM in reply to: jonnyo |
Champion 19812 MA | Subject: RE: Swimming with Band only: my favorite drill What is the difference in swim awareness/gains in swimming with a band only and band with a pull buoy? I had a coach who had me do a lot of band with pull buoy and i had my best IM swim that year despite not being faster in my 50s or 100s. |
| 2014-04-08 1:02 PM in reply to: jonnyo |
Expert 3145 Scottsdale, AZ | Subject: RE: Swimming with Band only: my favorite drill Thanks Johnny, for all your tips here.
Question, I've often heard that band swimming promotes a higher turnover. Would it not be possible for someone to band swim with a lower turnover or is just the higher turnover helps to get you to the point where you can band swim properly? |
| 2014-04-08 2:26 PM in reply to: thebigb |
New user 230 penticton | Subject: RE: Swimming with Band only: my favorite drill it would be possible if you have a very efficent catch to swim at slower turnover but why would you want this? having a high turnover for a triathlete is about the best open water weapon to have in your tool box. for most, it s something you should aim for! |
| 2014-04-08 2:29 PM in reply to: KathyG |
New user 230 penticton | Subject: RE: Swimming with Band only: my favorite drill i m not sure why people put on band while using a pull boey. i dont and dont see the point. on the other hand, a band only create a big position issue/challenge and require some big adjustment to keep/teach the body to stay high on the water. so i see them as very different. I m sure some coaches have reason to use the band with a pull buoy. i personally dont use it for that purpose. also, in general, womens have a much easier time swimming with a band compare to men.... they simply float a lot more. But that is a generalisation... not everyone fit this statement. |
| 2014-04-08 4:56 PM in reply to: jonnyo |
Expert 3145 Scottsdale, AZ | Subject: RE: Swimming with Band only: my favorite drill Originally posted by jonnyo it would be possible if you have a very efficent catch to swim at slower turnover but why would you want this? having a high turnover for a triathlete is about the best open water weapon to have in your tool box. for most, it s something you should aim for!
I'm not saying I would want it, I actually believe a higher turnover is beneficial to OWS (even though I swim like crap). But if you could accomplish this successfully with a slower stroke rate wouldn't that equate to being even more efficient and better balanced than with a higher stroke rate and then you could carry that into increasing stroke rate? Maybe that's a bit of a chicken or egg thought though. |
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