Ranking of Ironman courses by Finish Time (Page 5)

PennState - 2010-08-13 3:03 AM I think you are misunderstanding us. Personally I could care less what you Or anyone thinks about the different IMs. All I corrected as did others was the fact that you were opining about the relative ease of qualifying at north American events and then cited data on Malaysia and China. Far as I can tell we don't own those countries or their IMs? Come race IMAZ with me in 2011 and then you can tell me how easy the American AGs are lol. Hey race ANY IM in north America and qualify, as you will have our full respect.

bryancd - 2010-08-13 5:06 PM Oh, please, Chris! Did you really think all of Fred's protestations about how he's not racing an Ironman next year were for real?! He feels it....feels like he's close...he's got Big Island fever and nothing will cure it but more cow bell!

tcovert - 2010-08-13 5:18 PM  
Hmm...I may have to challenge my wife to see if she can finish the bike before Fred finishes the whole thing...

PennState - 2010-08-13 6:25 PM

Ha!
btw I've signed up for nothing, but if I do IMAZ 2011 it will be a wife and me only trip with family watching the kids. Tracie is interested in the 'Spa scene' in Scottsdale apparently

PennState - 2010-08-13 6:35 PM

Thanks, nice to know!

bryancd - 2010-08-13 5:06 PM Oh, please, Chris! Did you really think all of Fred's protestations about how he's not racing an Ironman next year were for real?! He feels it....feels like he's close...he's got Big Island fever and nothing will cure it but more cow bell! Christ, now I might have to put his whole family up in my 2 guest rooms, Lord have Mercy...

furiousferret - 2010-08-13 7:54 PM

He's the Brett Favre of triathlon!

ultrahip_00 - 2010-08-13 9:49 AM


Even though I am still in the lower age groups that have less spots - i still see it as easier than the age groups that get 8 slots.  Like Fred pointed out, 8 slots for 530 people. . or 2 slots for 15-30 people .

I think we are all in agreement that KQ is tough, and you have to be committed to your goals for a long time to have a shot. 

jazz82482 - 2010-08-13 12:53 PM Yeah- at LP, there were two studs in my AG! The first girl was 6th overall female, breaking the LP amateur record (hitting 10:00) while #2 broke the record as well, and was only 10min behind #1. Craziness!! Thankfully #1 already got a Kona slot!

ironlib - 2010-08-14 4:45 AM
That is unreal for our AG to have to go 10 hours to KQ!!!! holy crap!  

ex-buzz - 2010-08-15 10:20 AM "Sure the same players are around as years past, but as I have said about Europe, you just can’t hide over here and both these boys have been cleaning up here, and in the USA. Whether you are racing a club event or a big Ironman race, the depth of talent is so deep that just winning races in Europe is tough. Many of the events now in the USA are diluted amongst the pro fields simply because athletes have the ability to pick from a big pool of races. In Europe there are 4 Ironman 70.3 races and 4 Ironmans.  It’s basic supply and demand. The price for lack of supply in Europe is stacked fields and incredibly fast, aggressive racing. I just love it and for 16 years I have been coming over here for that very reason.  It is not about money, it’s all about the competition, and feeding that drive to race." - Macca

He always says that about any races he does in Europe, they're always tougher.

Why? Fast people are fast the world over, but over here in europe there's very little people looking to just complete an IM, most have done triathlons for years and only move up when theyre ready to compete. Races don't fill up as fast so in general all the fast athletes will get into any race they want. In NA races fill up almost instantaneously and alot of slots are taking by wannabe finishers etc.

Also look at the female participation in europe, it's extremely low and it's a male dominated sport over here. Last year IM France had only 6% women, so you're talking about ALOT more men per races, which generally means alot more fast people to compete against. Also the more men in the finishing statistics the faster the race will look on surveys done like in this thread, it's not accurate at all.

I've read countless of race reports from americans doing european IMs and I think in every one they have commented on how fast the field was and how there were very few if any overweight people etc, everyone looking likes pros.

I think the consencus is that NA IM fields are less competitive that EU ones, but that's nothing to do with the quality of triathletes in NA atm, it's all about who competes and who gets the slots. Slow IM wannabe types take up ALOT more slots in NA which dilutes the field alot and faster racers get unlucky and get left out. In europe most races don't fill up for months and some don't even fill up at all, so all the racers have their choices of races, can drop and join different races if their circumstances change etc which all allows for a better quality field.

ex-buzz - 2010-08-16 3:20 AM "Sure the same players are around as years past, but as I have said about Europe, you just can’t hide over here and both these boys have been cleaning up here, and in the USA. Whether you are racing a club event or a big Ironman race, the depth of talent is so deep that just winning races in Europe is tough. Many of the events now in the USA are diluted amongst the pro fields simply because athletes have the ability to pick from a big pool of races. In Europe there are 4 Ironman 70.3 races and 4 Ironmans.  It’s basic supply and demand. The price for lack of supply in Europe is stacked fields and incredibly fast, aggressive racing. I just love it and for 16 years I have been coming over here for that very reason.  It is not about money, it’s all about the competition, and feeding that drive to race." - Macca

He always says that about any races he does in Europe, they're always tougher.

Why? Fast people are fast the world over, but over here in europe there's very little people looking to just complete an IM, most have done triathlons for years and only move up when theyre ready to compete. Races don't fill up as fast so in general all the fast athletes will get into any race they want. In NA races fill up almost instantaneously and alot of slots are taking by wannabe finishers etc.

Also look at the female participation in europe, it's extremely low and it's a male dominated sport over here. Last year IM France had only 6% women, so you're talking about ALOT more men per races, which generally means alot more fast people to compete against. Also the more men in the finishing statistics the faster the race will look on surveys done like in this thread, it's not accurate at all.

I've read countless of race reports from americans doing european IMs and I think in every one they have commented on how fast the field was and how there were very few if any overweight people etc, everyone looking likes pros.

I think the consencus is that NA IM fields are less competitive that EU ones, but that's nothing to do with the quality of triathletes in NA atm, it's all about who competes and who gets the slots. Slow IM wannabe types take up ALOT more slots in NA which dilutes the field alot and faster racers get unlucky and get left out. In europe most races don't fill up for months and some don't even fill up at all, so all the racers have their choices of races, can drop and join different races if their circumstances change etc which all allows for a better quality field.