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2008-02-25 5:03 PM

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Subject: Maybe you've completed an IM, but who's ran a 100 mile ultra?
I've been very intrigued in the recent past by ultra marathons and have read some accounts from Dean Karnazes, Pam Reed and other elites in that community. But the ability to run a 100 mile ultra seems like an almost impossible feat to a very "average Joe" like myself.

So... thought I'd throw out the question here in the BT community.

Who here has completed a 100 miler? How did it compare to an IM event? Any stories and experiences would be appreciated and I'm sure enjoyed by all.




2008-02-25 5:16 PM
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Subject: RE: Maybe you've completed an IM, but who's ran a 100 mile ultra?
Fitphd and Trixie did the Ulmstead 100 last year and are training for the Western States hundy.   There are a few more BTers part of the 100 club.
2008-02-25 6:37 PM
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grvfrog is the world record female triple IM holder, and madcow completed a double IM as well as aluminum1 and probably someone else I forget.  Shanks is gonna be a contender in the double as well soon. 

I had the honor of jockstrapping and watching them complete!

2008-02-25 7:30 PM
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Yep, dollar is right.  
2008-02-25 7:32 PM
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Yeah, we definitely have some psychos hardcore people that frequent BT!  There are some amazing athletes on here.
2008-02-25 7:42 PM
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I have done several 100 milers but never an IM so I can't compare. Planning to do my first IM this year. I think that the "average" person can do a 100 miler, but you definitely need a good mental attitude. You will want to stop many times.


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billgeist - 2008-02-25 6:42 PM   I think that the "average" person can do a 100 miler, but you definitely need a good mental attitude.

 

 My question is why would the average person want to?  Although I guy I work with is considering it.  I would rather do the Leadville 100 mtn bike than the run!!!!

 

2008-02-25 9:17 PM
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Subject: RE: Maybe you've completed an IM, but who's ran a 100 mile ultra?
peto_primo - 2008-02-25 7:29 PM

billgeist - 2008-02-25 6:42 PM I think that the "average" person can do a 100 miler, but you definitely need a good mental attitude.

My question is why would the average person want to?



Why? Because it is a new challenge. To see what you are capable of. To be out there enjoying the scenery and living. After one has completed a marathon and 50 mile ultra it is the next step. Why do an IM or marathon? A 100 mile ultra is not for everyone, but I do think that the body is capable of doing much more than most people can imagine.
2008-02-25 9:19 PM
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At the end of the year I hope to be able to tell you.

I tend to compare 50ks and HIMS due to total calories burnt plus my 50k pr and HIM pr are like 1 minute apart I think. I do think HIMs are easier because I felt alot better at the start of the run than I do at mile 18 of a 50k.

I hope if I race Pam Reed again this year I hope to do a little better against her.





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2008-02-26 11:28 AM
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peto_primo - 2008-02-25 6:29 PM

My question is why would the average person want to?

Because the challenge is laid before us. Because we want to see if we can. To test ourselves, to push our limits. And for that amazing feeling that you get at the end of accomplishing something like that.

Just to name a few!!


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2008-02-26 12:18 PM
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peto_primo - 2008-02-25 7:29 PM

billgeist - 2008-02-25 6:42 PM   I think that the "average" person can do a 100 miler, but you definitely need a good mental attitude.

 

 My question is why would the average person want to?  Although I guy I work with is considering it.  I would rather do the Leadville 100 mtn bike than the run!!!!

 

I would disagree, I don't think the average Joe could do a 100-miler.  Especially if you consider that most of these races have race points where they check your vitals.  On top of that, there are cuttoff times.  A friend of mine, who is an excellent swimmer and decent triathlete tried Leadville a couple different times.  Never met the cuttoff to finish.  Yea, I would do Leadville 100 on the mtn bike.  Never would I attempt the run.  Ultra athletes are a different animal!



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Subject: RE: Maybe you've completed an IM, but who's ran a 100 mile ultra?
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billgeist - 2008-02-25 6:42 PM   I think that the "average" person can do a 100 miler, but you definitely need a good mental attitude.

 

 My question is why would the average person want to?  Although I guy I work with is considering it.  I would rather do the Leadville 100 mtn bike than the run!!!!

 

I would disagree, I don't think the average Joe could do a 100-miler.  Especially if you consider that most of these races have race points where they check your vitals.  On top of that, there are cuttoff times.  A friend of mine, who is an excellent swimmer and decent triathlete tried Leadville a couple different times.  Never met the cuttoff to finish.  Yea, I would do Leadville 100 on the mtn bike.  Never would I attempt the run.  Ultra athletes are a different animal!

The average Joe could train and do it, but he wouldn't be average anymore. Which, I guess, is the point.

2008-02-26 12:32 PM
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Unless someone has a big physcial problem I think they can do it but it might take many years to get to that level.
2008-02-26 12:36 PM
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rayd - 2008-02-26 12:18 PM
On top of that, there are cuttoff times. A friend of mine, who is an excellent swimmer and decent triathlete tried Leadville a couple different times. Never met the cuttoff to finish.


The cutoff's get a lot of people at Leadville. You have to be moving pretty quick from the start. Most 100's aren't quite as bad as Leadville on the cutoffs, especially early in the race. I have a friend that has tried Leadville on a couple of occasions and has failed to finish because of the cutoff's. And this is a guy that has finished over 40 marathons and over 50 ultramarathons, with more than 20 being 100 milers. One year he even finished the Badwater 135 ten days after finishing the Hardrock 100.

The guys I know that have done both 100 miler's and IM's say the IM's are much easier because you are breaking your time and distance up over three different disciplines. In an ultra, all you're doing is running or walking and that starts to take a toll. They did say that training for an IM is much more difficult than an ultra because of the three different disciplines.


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Subject: RE: Maybe you've completed an IM, but who's ran a 100 mile ultra?
billgeist - 2008-02-25 7:17 PM

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billgeist - 2008-02-25 6:42 PM I think that the "average" person can do a 100 miler, but you definitely need a good mental attitude.

My question is why would the average person want to?



Why? Because it is a new challenge. To see what you are capable of. To be out there enjoying the scenery and living.


That sums it up in a nutshell for me - that's why it's so intriguing.

2008-02-26 1:30 PM
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billgeist - 2008-02-25 6:42 PM  

I just read a book of stories about ultras - Running Through The Wall - Pick that up and your mind will either start racing telling yourself you can do it or just laugh at you.




I also just finished that book last week. And yes, my mind is saying "hey, I could do that" while my legs are shaking with fear saying "you wouldn't dare!"

2008-02-26 1:33 PM
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What about an extreme bike event, like RAAM? I'd love to do that someday, more than an 100 miler. I kind of put them both in the same category though.
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peto_primo - 2008-02-25 8:29 PM
My question is why would the average person want to?

It's what stops us from being average.



Thank you...I havent done anything, but I would like to.

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2008-02-26 2:48 PM
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Met a guy at my first 100 miler that has done a double IM. He said the 100's are way more difficult....I disagree.....I don't have to SWIM in 100 milers....wade through some water, yeah maybe, swim....nope


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2008-02-26 3:02 PM
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Subject: RE: Maybe you've completed an IM, but who's ran a 100 mile ultra?
hate to hijack, but, for those of you who have done the 100s, how long did it take you to train for them? Was it like marathon training only more mileage, or was your training time (meaning over days months and years) a lot longer? I guess this is a multi-faceted question given that you all probably had huge bases to begin with. The question really is, how long would it take the "average" person to be able to do a 100? any random ideas?

EDIT: this is purely a hypothetical question...at least for the near future. I cannot vouch for 2010.

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2008-02-26 3:07 PM
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I have not done a IM or 100 miler but have done a HIM and 50K.  Thanks to ITB issues the 50K sucked way worse than the HIM and I had major issues with cramping.  The biggest problem was not the race it was the training.  All I did was run and run and run it felt.  At least with HIM/IM training you break it up.  I can only imagine the time commitment to run/walk 100miles (remember very few people actually can run 100 miles, there is a lot of walking I am sure).  I will probably do an IM one day but not a 100miler (my wife would probably have me committed if I did).  My other issue with the runs is you have to run at night and I am clumsy enough in the woods when it is light out and I am way to ADD to do anything for 24 hrs straight.

 

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trixie - 2008-02-26 12:48 PM

Met a guy at my first 100 miler that has done a double IM. He said the 100's are way more difficult....I disagree.....I don't have to SWIM in 100 milers....wade through some water, yeah maybe, swim....nope


OK, being a relative newbie, with regard to a double IM, how is that accomplished? Are the distances just doubled and completed in the normal sequence, or is it literally 2 "separate" races so that after you finish your first "loop", you're back in the water for another 2.4 miles, a 2nd 112 mile bike and a 2nd marathon?

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