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2008-04-18 5:37 AM

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Training for my first IM this year and also doing a half IM. How do you get through those really, really low points. Both bike and run. You are out of steam, exhausted, didn't make the times you anticipated, etc., etc.
Thanks.


2008-04-18 8:07 AM
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Good question...I'd like to know too.
2008-04-18 8:17 AM
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During a race or training?  Everyone has low points.  Some days you "have it" and others you don't.  When I was just training for marathons and I had a crappy 19 miler a few weeks before the race I was almost glad because I thought to myself, "OK I got that bad run out of the way....race day should be perfect"   Make sure you pay attention to nutrition, recovery, and sleep to minimize the number of "low points" throughout a season.   Good luck
2008-04-18 9:12 AM
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I'd just take a break from whatever is making you sick. In your case, I'd work on my swim for a couple of days and lay off the bike and run.
2008-04-18 9:16 AM
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During a training session: 

Get some calories in.

After that, focus on anything to get your mind off of feeling lousy: running cadence, efficient spinning, the next intersection...anything. Endurance training and racing are like roller coaster rides: really high highs and really low lows, but neither of them last for very long. Just know that those low feelings are fleeting and pretty soon you'll feel better.

 

Globally speaking:

IM training is about beating yourself down  and training tired. That's how you get stronger, mentally as much as physically. No that every workout you get through when you're just beat will make race day that much easier. IM races aren't really that hard, it's the training.



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2008-04-18 9:36 AM
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Take a rest day.  Eat and get extra sleep.  The body is trying to tell you something.

If you have to exercise, do something different, go for a hike, water aerobics,.....



2008-04-18 9:40 AM
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last month I made a post on my blog which discusses why some sessions feel better than others: http://jorgepbmcoaching.blogspot.com/2008/03/why-some-training-days-are-better-than.html

As far a getting through those tough sessions; as long as the fatigue is normal and your mind is making things tougher than usual, I basically just SUAT = shut up and train. Of course I take extra care of the details ont hose days: nutrition, recovery, fueling, etc.

2008-04-18 11:15 AM
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Actually finding ways through all those low points/rough patches is one of the key skills you can acquire during your training!! Being able to find a way to "re-focus" your efforts/energy when "stuff" happens during training is something you WILL want to have happen so you can cope on race day.....
There are many schools of thought.....

- have a "special snack" (high sugar or caffeine) for a quick boost --I use those soft kids gummy candy

- have a tune in mind that you can hum/sing/visualize? that pumps you up.....adrenaline is KEY!

- focus on keeping moving....allow yourself to slow down BUT keep moving forward...

- kick yourself in the backside! You know "Suck it up buttercup.....this is Ironman training, it's supposed to be hard!" And I don't mean whispering it.....the effect is SO MUCH better when you scream this at yourself!

- finally, focus on your positive outcome during race day.....one trick I learned when I started IM racing was to ALWAYS have a mental video of your finish moment stored away......know how to save that boost for when you need it but also know how to use it when you need to!!

And ALWAYS HAVE FUN! Smile, wave to people, and you'll be fine!

Paul
2008-04-18 3:51 PM
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During a training session: coke (pepsi, redbull, etc), and maybe a candy bar. More then once I've found myself in the middle of nowhere sitting in front of a gas station chugging a coke and eating a giant snickers bar wondering just WTF i'm doing. A few minutes later I'm back on the road and cruising. The downside to this is if you're more then an hour from home, you'll be looking for another gas station.

In general: It's time to look at the logs and see if you aren't overreaching. It may be a sign you need a short break. Or maybe you just need to accept that this journey is what you make of it and get your out the door for another session.

scott

2008-04-18 5:15 PM
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yaqui - 2008-04-18 4:51 PM

More then once I've found myself in the middle of nowhere sitting in front of a gas station chugging a coke and eating a giant snickers bar wondering just WTF i'm doing.


LOL Thats funny because that was me the other week.....
2008-04-18 8:37 PM
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Would love a sugar and caffeine boost, but how do you do that in an IM?
Special needs?


2008-04-18 9:27 PM
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Yes....in fact my secret weapon on race day is frozen Starbucks "Doubleshots"....you know the little cans of espresso with some cream and sugar.......like a mocha slushy.....sugar, caffeine and a little cool drink.....

Yup I should be bucking for a sponsorship!

Or you can keep some of those sugary gummi snacks in your bento box or bike jersey pocket......

Paul

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2008-04-19 11:03 AM
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writers2 - 2008-04-18 9:37 PM Would love a sugar and caffeine boost, but how do you do that in an IM? Special needs?

Most have flat coke on the run which should do the trick. On the bike, you can bring your own. Special needs is always an option if there is something you just got to have.

2008-04-19 11:56 AM
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writers2 - 2008-04-18 8:37 PM Would love a sugar and caffeine boost, but how do you do that in an IM? Special needs?

Espresso GU.  Has twice the caffiene as a cup of coffee and sugar you need.  I carry a couple with me on the bike.  Usually around mile 80 is my low spot.  I shoot a GU and all's better.  Same on the run; carry a couple with me for the low spots that I know are coming.

TJ

2008-04-20 3:24 PM
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writers2 - 2008-04-18 5:37 AM Training for my first IM this year and also doing a half IM. How do you get through those really, really low points. Both bike and run. You are out of steam, exhausted, didn't make the times you anticipated, etc., etc. Thanks.

 

If you're talking about on race day that's easy.  Set the bar really low!  :-)  That is why you see so many people with a "just finish" goal.  All you gotta do is make the cut-off times and everything else is gravey. 

If you're talking about not making time on a training run/ride, so what?!  It's training. 

On mile 3 of my IM the thought came to me, "I am totally, completely, 100% exhausted!  OMG.  I've got 23 more miles to run....I've got another 5+ hours before I can sit down and stop moving!"  But I guickly tossed that thought out of my haid and concentrated on making it to the next aid station.

Control your thoughts.  You can't stop a bird from landing on your head but you don't have to let him make a nest in your hair!  :-)

 ~Mike

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