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2005-01-25 9:44 PM

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Subject: Extreme HR while training today...
I wore my HRM while lifting at the gym today and it registered 202, 204, and 201 on three consecutive sets. The peaks are too regular and exactly coincide with my sets so I'm sure it was interference from anything. The strangest thing is that I was doing decline DB flye...not a particularly intense movement...especially compared to the dead lifts I did that only hit 162 peak. So what the hell is going on? The only thing I can think of is that since I was on a decline with my feet about 30inches higher than my head maybe my heart went into overdrive to keep the blood pumping. But I definitely didn't feel like I was working hard at all...you think I'd know if my heart was going that damn fast.


2005-01-25 10:34 PM
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Do these sets end exactly the same time as the step aerobics class lets out?

2005-01-25 11:00 PM
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My gym unfortunately doesn't have any aerobics...it's not a pretty person gym...but at least i never have to worry about getting distracted. You can see the HR spikes in my HRM log file...crazy stuff. So amI to believe that my max HR for lifting is really 204+?

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2005-01-25 11:10 PM
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Wow!!  That's amazing.

I agree with your first conclusing, that being your heart rate spike was due to your feet being above your head.  I know you said that you don't think it was a misreading, but if you were in the same position 3 times and it did it all 3 times then I imagine it has something to do with the reading in that position.

If however it is your max. heart rate then all looks really good for your base training...you can probably stay in zone 1 around 160bpm!!

2005-01-25 11:26 PM
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I meant that I don't think it's a mis-reading caused by any kind of electrical interference between the monitor and watch. I can only assume that it has something to do with my position...but now I need to know if my heart really cranked up that high. I'll have to do some research next time I'm at the gym.

Traveski - 2005-01-25 11:10 PM

Wow!! That's amazing.

I agree with your first conclusing, that being your heart rate spike was due to your feet being above your head. I know you said that you don't think it was a misreading, but if you were in the same position 3 times and it did it all 3 times then I imagine it has something to do with the reading in that position.

If however it is your max. heart rate then all looks really good for your base training...you can probably stay in zone 1 around 160bpm!!

2005-01-25 11:34 PM
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Oh, ok.  Well, anyway, I still agree with you!

Let us know what you discover, I'd be interested to know as I just ordered my HRM and it should be arriving soon.  But just don't stay upside down too long!



2005-01-26 7:40 AM
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If you were doing fly's, this movement may cause the monitor strap to lose contact with your chest and give you some weird readings. I would bet that a lack of good monitor contact or your position (decline), is the culprit and you didn't get the HR that high.

Just my 2 cents worth.

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2005-01-26 7:56 AM
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TH3_FRB - 2005-01-25 11:00 PM My gym unfortunately doesn't have any aerobics...it's not a pretty person gym...but at least i never have to worry about getting distracted. You can see the HR spikes in my HRM log file...crazy stuff. So amI to believe that my max HR for lifting is really 204+?

Not a pretty person gym?  I go to your gym!!  hhrrruumphhh!!  

2005-01-26 8:31 AM
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Do I know you?



We're never there at the same time...and I don't think you disagree with me...it's not a place to go looking for a date. At least not a good one.
2005-01-26 11:52 AM
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TH3_FRB - 2005-01-25 10:00 PM My gym unfortunately doesn't have any aerobics...it's not a pretty person gym...but at least i never have to worry about getting distracted. You can see the HR spikes in my HRM log file...crazy stuff. So amI to believe that my max HR for lifting is really 204+?

Hmmmm, very interesting.

What did you eat before you lifted?  Were you hydrated (drank at least 1-2 liters during the day)?  Was it abnormally hot in the gym that day?

2005-01-26 12:06 PM
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I average about 1 episode of HR spike per workout...all anomoly.  Almost every time (after I think about it) it's because the HRM strap is mispositioned and / or makes intermittent contact.  I can resolve it immediately by repositioning the strap or laying down a strip of buh-bump to promote electrical signal conduction.

My (uneducated, amateur) guess is that the decline position caused the strap to slide up OH SO slightly, and maybe the fly motion itself caused a lifting and falling of the strap...such that it couldn't maintain the proper contact.  I wouldn't sweat it....but next time I would do a manual check to make sure you're not gonna blow a gasket of sorts...



2005-01-26 8:51 PM
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Subject: RE: Extreme HR while training today...
Let's see...last thing I ate was 1/2 of a turkey sandwich about 45 min prior to working out. I probably had a gallon+ of water through the day. The gym was the same as usual as far as temp goes. Flye was the 3rd exercise that day so I was well into my workout...did dead lifts immediately before flye. I'll be back at the gym this weekend and I'll hop on the decline bench again and do some testing...see how the strap moves through the lift and compare the HRM reading against the good old finger on the pulse method. Typically when my strap loses contact the HRm just registers zero...I've never seen it spike like that.

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TH3_FRB - 2005-01-25 10:00 PM My gym unfortunately doesn't have any aerobics...it's not a pretty person gym...but at least i never have to worry about getting distracted. You can see the HR spikes in my HRM log file...crazy stuff. So amI to believe that my max HR for lifting is really 204+?

Hmmmm, very interesting.

What did you eat before you lifted? Were you hydrated (drank at least 1-2 liters during the day)? Was it abnormally hot in the gym that day?

2005-01-26 10:35 PM
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   With very limited experience with my own HRM taken into account, I would have to say that, bottom line, if your heart wasn't trying to jump out of your chest, you got an inaccurate reading.  These are not infallable machines.  Regardless of the quality of the HRM, there is error associated with them.  The watch part has to interpret the electronic signal it gets from the strap.  Your body position may result in data being sent that is interpretted differently than if you were standing upright.  It might be picking up the noise from two valve compressions instead of one.
2005-01-27 10:40 AM
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wyecrab - 2005-01-26 9:35 PM    With very limited experience with my own HRM taken into account, I would have to say that, bottom line, if your heart wasn't trying to jump out of your chest, you got an inaccurate reading.  These are not infallable machines.  Regardless of the quality of the HRM, there is error associated with them.  The watch part has to interpret the electronic signal it gets from the strap.  Your body position may result in data being sent that is interpretted differently than if you were standing upright.  It might be picking up the noise from two valve compressions instead of one.

That's what I'm thinking too.

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