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2008-09-03 2:51 AM

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I'm in week #14 of a 20-week program for a half-marathon on October 19.  I just did a half-marathon last Sunday and was almost 30 minutes off my goal time for October.  Cognitively, I understand that there were a lot of mitigating circumstances for my performance.  I'm currently wrapping up a 14-and-a-half month deployment to Iraq, running in 85+ degree temperatures all the time, running the same routes for over a year.

All this aside, I just can't shake the feeling that I'm not making the improvements that I want to.  It's turning into a lot of negative self-talk, so much so that I stopped running today just over half-way through my workout.

So, those of you who have done half-marathons/ HIM's/ marathons/ IM's...pretty much anything "long," is this normal?  If so, how do/ did you mix it up?  Is this something that may go away with a change in scenery/ weather?  Does any one have any mental preparations or exercises that have helped?  I'm willing to try just about anything.

Thanks.



2008-09-03 7:05 AM
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Thanks for serving!

I think given your circumstances you need to be kind to yourself. Your 1/2 Mary goal time how did you establish that? Do you think it is realistic?

What kind of plan are you following to train? You know improvement isn't linear so often it comes in spurts and then stalls out.

Goals are great but they should be realistic and attainable or often I'll have three goals a stretch goal, a medium goal, and one I think I should be able to do.

Sounds like you are a little burned out? Given where you are and how you are limited in training I am not surprised. When you get home I bet you will get a huge boost in motivation just from having more freedom and able to run anywhere you want.

Negative self talk for me can really crush my workouts. I don't know much of it any more and try to nip it in the bud if it starts.

A couple of ideas and things I have done that helped me:
1. At end of the day write something about your workout that well and keep it positive. Do this daily. Review it weekly if not more.
2. Weekly I would write what I was above average at in my sport life...all inclusive...nutrition, following plan, whatever. I found this really hard to do as I didn't see myself above average at much since I"m slow. Pace and time is not all sport is about. It became easier for me to do.

Both these things helped me turn from more negative view to positive view and helped me be mentally ready for my IM.

Best of luck...

2008-09-03 7:14 AM
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First of all, cheers to coming home soon!! 

Yes, we all go through a slump where we just can't get in the grove.  Sounds like you have a lot of other things going on besides running.  Focus on all that and just let the running be your relaxation time.  Don't stress about the training or your goals now.  Try to get back to enjoying it, no matter what speed or how far you are running. 

A change of location and especially temperature (I don't know how you do it in that heat!) will definitely help.  Just believe that you will reach your goals; it just may not be on your own plan or timeline.

2008-09-03 7:46 AM
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Yes, it happens, especially in longer training programs.  I usually get it around 2/3 through or so.

I have no magic trick for getting over it.  Sometimes you just gotta push through, keep your eye on the prize. 

2008-09-03 10:34 AM
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try changing up your pace.  Run some a lot slower, some faster.  Then add some test days in there every 3 weeks or so.  Check is this blog to see if you think it might help.

http://www.triathlontrainingblog.com/?p=796

 

Here's another thought.  This article was just posted on my triclub website:

 

Five Mistakes That Lead to Injury

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Date Created: 08/28/08

Written By: Olympian Jeff Galloway

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Five Mistakes That Lead to Injury

Running the long run too fast
Most of the injury reports from the thousands of marathoners and half marathoners who contact me each year are directly tied to the pace of the long run. A safe pace for most runners, at 60 degrees, is two minutes per mile slower than current marathon race pace (or 2.5 min/mi slower than half-marathon race pace). Even when slowing down to four or five minutes per mile slower, the endurance benefit is the same as when you're running at a faster pace. It's also important to slow down 30 seconds a mile for every five degrees Fahrenheit above 60. An adjustment in run-walk-run frequency should be made based upon the pace that you currently run.

Galloway's Run-Walk-Run Segments
8 min/mi: run 4 minutes/walk 30 seconds
9 min/mi: run 4 minutes/walk 1 minute
10 min/mi: run 3 minutes/walk 1 minute
11 min/mi: run 2:30/walk 1 minute
12 min/mi: run 2 minutes/walk 1 minute
13 min/mi: run 1 minute/walk 1 minute
14 min/mi: run 30 seconds/walk 30 seconds
15 min/mi: run 30 seconds/walk 45 seconds
16 min/mi: run 20 seconds/walk 40 seconds

Stride length too long
Studies on runners have shown that the top running-form mistake is having a stride that is too long. Other studies show that as runners get faster, the stride length tends to shorten. The mechanical key to running faster is through quicker turnover. In my training groups, retreats and individual consultations, I've found a simple cadence drill can improve the turnover of feet and legs, which improves efficiency.

Stretching a tight tendon or muscle
Fatigue-induced tightness is a natural part of running. Trying to stretch out this tightness will often lead to the tearing of muscle and tendon fibers - and injury. Massage is a better way to help these areas recover. A successful warm up starts with a three-to-five-minute walk followed by a gentle introduction to running: run a minute/walk a minute for four to six minutes, then run two minutes/walk a minute for six to nine minutes. Massage can bring blood flow to these areas after a tough workout, speeding up recovery. If you have stretches that work for you, and don't produce injury or longer recovery, then use them if you wish. But be careful.

Too much speedwork, too soon
Speedwork increases injury risk. When you ramp up the quantity of speedwork too quickly, or run too fast several times a week, the risk is dramatic. If you plan to do realistic speedwork, start with a few repetitions, rest adequately between each, and gradually increase the quantity. It's best to rest from running (or any calf muscle exercise) the day before a speed workout and the day after. If you feel pain or any signs of injury, stop the workout right away.

Switching from a worn-out shoe to a new one
It's never a good idea to run in a shoe until it is totally worn out. When you find a shoe that works for you, go to a technical running store and buy an identical shoe. If the shoe has already been revised by the time you visit the store, knowledgeable staff members can identify several shoes that are very similar to the one you like. Once a week, run in the old shoe for most of the run and then put on the new pair during the last half mile or so. This gradually breaks in the new one, and helps you determine when the old one is worn out

Over a million runners have purchased Jeff Galloway's books or attended his running schools, retreats at Tahoe or the beach or Galloway training programs. Send questions or sign up for his free newsletter at www.RunInjuryFree.com.

This story was taken from Competitor Magazine online.



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2008-09-03 10:44 AM
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Are you kidding?!!?  That is just brutal!  Yes, you'll run faster in cooler weather.  I'd be 1-2 minutes per mile slower in the kind of weather you're dealling with.

The other thing is that you're program is designed for a peak on the 20th week.



2008-09-03 10:52 AM
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Just think, you could almost do IMKY in long sleeves after this Laughing

Yeah, everyone does this.  Just keep in mind, "How badly do I really want this?"  That's what gets me through quite a bit.  Well, that and thinking about what a TAC Officer would do if I slowed down.

<- CW3.  Spent my year in the sandbox.  It sucks. 

2008-09-03 12:13 PM
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i like to mix my pace up through out the long run, explore a new area of my town, use the program on my garmin to race some aka put in a time I would like to bet.
2008-09-03 12:21 PM
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I think you need to suck it up, pansy.

No, really, I'm in the same boat myself, and I've only been here half as long as you.  Soon, dude, you'll be home soon!



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2008-09-04 7:53 AM
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Thanks everyone for the help.  Especially Mr. Sapper

I think what I was looking for was some permission to take a slack week and some justification that it'll be okay in the end.  I'm also glad to hear that the heat can be the culprit.

As for my goal, a lot of running calculators say that my 1:45 goal is not too far off given my 21:30 5k and my 49:00 10k.  I'm willing to be happy with anything under 2 hours but I want to work hard and shoot for 1:45.

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