Advice on hydration setup on bike
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2009-01-15 3:20 PM |
Extreme Veteran 1942 In front of computer when typing this. | Subject: Advice on hydration setup on bike As an early b'day present, my wife bought me a new tri bike! My question is what would be an advisable water bottle/hydration system setup? I definitely want to do this on the front (http://www.profile-design.com/products/hydration/aerodrink/). That holds 32Oz. So which setup is preferable, assuming I already have the aerodrink on the front of the bike between the aerobars (assume a longest ride of around 3 hours for now):
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2009-01-15 3:27 PM in reply to: #1910452 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: Advice on hydration setup on bike I need to bring a lot of fluids on my longer rides, so I have double cages behind the seat and my PD aero bottle. I like a clean down tube, so I don't go with a cage there, just preference. |
2009-01-15 3:57 PM in reply to: #1910452 |
Master 2202 Canton, Michigan | Subject: RE: Advice on hydration setup on bike I use my aero bottle for races and trainer rides. For longer rides it's a camelbak, I can carry plenty of fluids that will stay pretty cool for the ride, snacks, and other items with me. If I ride longer then a 2 or 3 hours, I take an extra bladder and leave it in the cooler since I normally have to drive to my ride locations and swing by and swap bladders to keep cold fluids with me. During races, the Aero bottle is for water only, and I'll ride with gatorade, etc on a behind the seat water cage, along with another water bottle to refill the aero bottle if needed before hitting another aid station. Seems to work for me, but you'll find other ideas on these forums that may work better for your needs. Good luck. |
2009-01-15 4:52 PM in reply to: #1910452 |
Expert 1030 Miller Place, Long Island | Subject: RE: Advice on hydration setup on bike I have a double cage on the back of the bike and a PD aero bottle on the front. On the down tube I have a cage in which I keep a "rocket" One of those water bottle shape and size toolboxes. I always keep just clean water in one of the bottles behind my seat. This goes back to my mountain biking days... Lots of cuts and scrapes to be cleaned out with clean water. |
2009-01-15 6:45 PM in reply to: #1910452 |
Extreme Veteran 662 Sunny San Diego | Subject: RE: Advice on hydration setup on bike Since you're just just asking about training rides I'd say go with bottle on the down tube- it's your cheapest choice right now other than carrying a bottle in your jersy pocket. |
2009-01-15 6:58 PM in reply to: #1910452 |
Champion 6627 Rochester Hills, Michigan | Subject: RE: Advice on hydration setup on bike Training...downtube bottle plus aerodrink. If you need more, throw a bottle in your jersey pocket. If that's still not enough, camelbak. Racing: Same thing, but if it's a supported HIM or longer, feed off the land and skip the camelbak. |
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2009-01-16 11:50 AM in reply to: #1910452 |
Elite 5316 Alturas, California | Subject: RE: Advice on hydration setup on bike I live in the stix and can be 40 miles form the closest house/store/rest area dog, cat whatever, so I have a Neverreach on the back (64 oz), down tube (24 oz) between the bars (24 oz) and can bring the camel back if it is 100 F out and I am going long (100oz), usually gets does the job. |
2009-01-16 11:57 AM in reply to: #1910452 |
Cycling Guru 15134 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: Advice on hydration setup on bike Training: Road bike - two bottle cages, two bottles in my jersey pockets. Stop to refill every 2 hours or so. Tri bike - one bottle cage on downtube, two in jersey pockets. Stop to refill as needed. Racing: One down tube bottle cage. That's it. Every race (pretty much) has on course nutrition. Live off the course, that is what you are paying the entry fee for. I personally despise "aero hydration" mechanisms. |
2009-01-16 12:03 PM in reply to: #1910452 |
Veteran 419 | Subject: RE: Advice on hydration setup on bike I love my PD aerodrink. I feel I stay better hydrated b/c I can easily grab a drink while in the aero position. I only put water in that though. I keep a sport drink in the downtube. I also have a bento box that I keep gel/salt tabs for longer rides. |
2009-01-16 12:04 PM in reply to: #1910626 |
Extreme Veteran 607 Rochester, MN | Subject: RE: Advice on hydration setup on bike mscotthall - 2009-01-15 4:52 PM I have a double cage on the back of the bike and a PD aero bottle on the front. On the down tube I have a cage in which I keep a "rocket" One of those water bottle shape and size toolboxes. I always keep just clean water in one of the bottles behind my seat. This goes back to my mountain biking days... Lots of cuts and scrapes to be cleaned out with clean water. x2 |
2009-01-16 12:06 PM in reply to: #1912341 |
Cycling Guru 15134 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: Advice on hydration setup on bike jlpete98 - 2009-01-16 1:03 PM I also have a bento box that I keep salt tabs ....... You don't need them, save some room in your Bento Box ........ |
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2009-01-16 12:10 PM in reply to: #1912354 |
Master 2355 Houston, TX | Subject: RE: Advice on hydration setup on bike Daremo - 2009-01-16 12:06 PM jlpete98 - 2009-01-16 1:03 PM I also have a bento box that I keep salt tabs ....... You don't need them, save some room in your Bento Box ........ Just get rid of the Bento Box. I mounted just a regular bottle cage between my aero bars, so the bottle rests inbetween them and you just slide it out when you need to drink. I really like the setup a lot. Though I don't know of any pre-made systems for this, so you may have to get creative. |
2009-01-16 12:12 PM in reply to: #1912368 |
Cycling Guru 15134 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: Advice on hydration setup on bike I didn't want to go that far and offend anyone who has one ..... |
2009-01-16 1:22 PM in reply to: #1912368 |
Master 1572 PA | Subject: RE: Advice on hydration setup on bike Just get rid of the Bento Box. can be helpful for those who bike in attire that doesn't have pockets like cycling jerseys. |
2009-01-16 1:24 PM in reply to: #1910452 |
Regular 109 Madison, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Advice on hydration setup on bike One piece of advice if you get a cage under your seat. Swing your leg WAY HIGH to get on and off. I crashed a lot when I got my cage under the seat. I spent the money on that because I hate the bottle between the aerobars. Could the comment on salt/electrolyte tablets being unnecessary be explained? thanks, keith |
2009-01-16 1:26 PM in reply to: #1910526 |
Champion 8540 the colony texas | Subject: RE: Advice on hydration setup on bike rottieguy - 2009-01-15 3:57 PM I use my aero bottle for races and trainer rides. For longer rides it's a camelbak, I can carry plenty of fluids that will stay pretty cool for the ride, snacks, and other items with me. During races, the Aero bottle is for water only, and I'll ride with gatorade, etc on a behind the seat water cage, along with another water bottle to refill the aero bottle if needed before hitting another aid station. x2 on using a camelback for training rides, with a cage on the bike for liquid nutrition |
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2009-01-16 1:35 PM in reply to: #1912593 |
Cycling Guru 15134 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: Advice on hydration setup on bike Kpoulsen - 2009-01-16 2:24 PM Could the comment on salt/electrolyte tablets being unnecessary be explained? thanks, keith Simple explanation: You do not need to replace electrolytes during exercise. There is absolutely no link between exercise induced cramping and electrolyte depletion. The only reason to take in ANY sort of salt during exercise is so that if you are drinking ONLY water that you do not dilute the natural balance of salinity in your blood and cause hyponatremia. And the amount you take in from regular nutrition (gels, sports drinks, energy bars) is more than adequate for it. |
2009-01-16 1:59 PM in reply to: #1910452 |
Extreme Veteran 555 Land of living sighs | Subject: RE: Advice on hydration setup on bike I remember talk here and on that other, somewhat "Slower, twitchier" web site about an MIT pod cast about how bento boxes cleaned up the "messy" air right behind the steer tube and could, in some cases make a bike more aero. This minimalist thing on the bike is great for some...sadly I see many of them at the side of the road trying to flag down cars when they flat (again) in the middle of nowhere.
As far as bottles go, I recall riding outdoors (although it is a distant memory). It is good to have the hydration "infrastructure" for training, and just take it off or don't use it for a race where they provide on course. So aerbottle (I only use water - I use course and storebought water(in training) and dump it easily in there.) Anything sticky will splash out and, depending what's in it can attract beasties - Wasps can fly pretty fast especially when you are going uphill! I use the old Profile one with the loofa sponge...I don't know about the new ones, I'd worry that that is just too much weight over the front wheel, it could make the handling sluggish? But that's just a guess. I have a downtube I have one additional bottle on the downtube filled with my favorite mix - in concentrate - I take a slurp and wash it down with water. And I have the two behind the seat setup...those can be more concentrate, or water or tool bottle. On shorter rides, sprints, etc. you don't have to use it. This set up works really well for my 4-7 hour rides in the middle of no where with just one refueling stop at midpoint It also worked really well at IMC. During a race you can always use an empty cage to take on a bottle from the course, be it Gatorade or Water. |