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2009-01-27 9:02 AM

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Subject: Ok, let's talk eating on the bike.
So, I am doing my first HIM in May and am already having nightmares.  You know, the kind you used to have before a test you weren't ready for.  One of my things that I have no idea how to do or what to do is eat on the bike.  Things I have read say gels but those things are hard enough to open when I am running, there is no way I can open one and stay upright on my bike.  Do I pull over to eat something?  Eat something else?  I am sorry if these are really silly questions but I have no one else to ask.  What do I do?


2009-01-27 9:23 AM
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Subject: RE: Ok, let's talk eating on the bike.
Gels are easy to open on the bike.  Put the top of the pack of Gu in your mouth, grab with your fingers near the v-notch and tear away from your mouth - piece of cake (errr....gel).  You can do all of this while holding the bike handlebar in the other hand. Just practice.  Trickier part is stuffing the empty gel packet in your back pocket so you don't litter.  Good luck. 
2009-01-27 9:33 AM
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Subject: RE: Ok, let's talk eating on the bike.
Funny, I have a much harder time opening them when I'm running, just because my hands are all sweaty and it's harder to hold them still.  If you are really having trouble go to a quiet road or path away from traffic and just practice it, you will have it in no time.  On the bike I use perpetuem with gels and Clif Bloks - I find I like variety
2009-01-27 9:38 AM
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Subject: RE: Ok, let's talk eating on the bike.

Like Birkie says it is quite easy just a skill you need to learn and practice. Another gel method is taping them to your top tube on the tab portion then ripping one off at a time and the tab stays attached to your top tube. I stuff the packet garbage up the leg of my right tri shorts and then toss it at aid stations if I remember as I find that easier than reaching for my back pocket which may have clean stuff in it.

Do you have aerobars? If so you can do just about anything leaning on your aerobar pads with your forearms as you can do things with your hands and still stay in balance.

I'd suggest playing around with opening packages and eating while doing trainer rides if you are riding inside at all.

Depending on what you eat you can put partially opened items in your bento box.

You can always go with all liquid calories and take all you need in from something like Gatorade Endurance or Infiiti.

2009-01-27 9:42 AM
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Subject: RE: Ok, let's talk eating on the bike.
KathyG - 2009-01-27 9:38 AM

Depending on what you eat you can put partially opened items in your bento box.

x2. I have a Bento Box and before my HIMs, I would open a pack of Clif Shot Bloks and a Larabar - dump them into the box so I didn't have to mess with the wrappers. Throw in a few GUs and I'm good to go.

Of course, you have to remember to clean the Bento Box every once in awile

 

2009-01-27 9:45 AM
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Subject: RE: Ok, let's talk eating on the bike.
I use flasks for my gels so no wrappers to deal with.


2009-01-27 10:33 AM
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Subject: RE: Ok, let's talk eating on the bike.

JohnnyKay - 2009-01-27 9:45 AM I use flasks for my gels so no wrappers to deal with.

X2.  I use Gel Flasks as well.  No wrappers or pulling open gels with your teeth.  If you don't want to use Gels, as others have said get a Bento Box and break up food into bite size pieces.  

2009-01-27 11:56 AM
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Subject: RE: Ok, let's talk eating on the bike.
Use gels and supplement with something else like a solid sports drink or cocktail. Or a treat.

I go with GU20 and CarboPro and then GUs + an Uncrustable (portable peanut butter & jelly sandwiches).

Most important tip is to practice and get comfortable with using 1 hand to ride and 1 hand to eat
2009-01-27 12:33 PM
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Subject: RE: Ok, let's talk eating on the bike.

like everyone else said...practice...but the flask is nice. Add a little water to loosen it up and it works like a charm. 

Also....my secret bike food.....Little Debbie Oatmeal Pies (170 cal per pie)....from the beginning to probably 3/4 the way through the bike then back to gel and liquid for the last quarter to get the stomach ready for the run.

Calculate everything and make a plan, stick to the plan as long as possible BUT ALWAYS have a plan B and C incase something isn't working with your stomache. 

Congrats on training for the first HIM!

2009-01-27 2:08 PM
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Subject: RE: Ok, let's talk eating on the bike.
I just use Infinit - all my calories are in my water bottles

2009-01-28 12:14 PM
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Subject: RE: Ok, let's talk eating on the bike.
Gel flask is the way to go!


2009-01-28 12:41 PM
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Subject: RE: Ok, let's talk eating on the bike.

Just my 2 cents, opinion and tips.....

I like to slap an unwrapped power bar to the top tube of my bike. You just peel a chunk off when you need one. Also a bento box filled with Sports Beans is like a candy dish....just dip your hand in and pull a few out.  I also use Infinite. The bottom line is you need to figure out what your stomach can handle during your long training rides, and work out a "calories IN and OUT per half hour" type of chart so you can make sure you get in enough on the bike to not end up in a huge deficit.  The bike should be a rolling buffet, because once you start running, it's harder for your stomach to take a lot in.

2009-01-28 3:31 PM
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What ever you do just keep it simple and repeatable. I can eat a cheese burger on training rides, but race days my gut gets very finicky. Stress and pressure of a big race will cause you nutrition to derail very quickly. I have seen it over and over.

I prefer liquids because it is much easier to guage your caloric intake. Gels are fine, I find them too sweet later in the day for my tastes. If you take gels, make sure that you are drinking water not sports drinks or your gut will get sideways.

With respect to the people in this forum, stay away from the "I ate ho-ho's and drank pickle juice and it works great for me" advice. Seriously...LOL

Keep it simple, repeatable. Know how many calories you should take in. Know your sweat rate. Stick to the plan. You will do fine with planning.

Good luck!
2009-01-28 4:02 PM
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Subject: RE: Ok, let's talk eating on the bike.
I am a huge fan of eating ho-ho's and ....nevermind.
2009-01-28 4:08 PM
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infinIT 1 - 2009-01-28 4:31 PM What ever you do just keep it simple and repeatable. I can eat a cheese burger on training rides, but race days my gut gets very finicky. Stress and pressure of a big race will cause you nutrition to derail very quickly. I have seen it over and over. I prefer liquids because it is much easier to guage your caloric intake. Gels are fine, I find them too sweet later in the day for my tastes. If you take gels, make sure that you are drinking water not sports drinks or your gut will get sideways. With respect to the people in this forum, stay away from the "I ate ho-ho's and drank pickle juice and it works great for me" advice. Seriously...LOL Keep it simple, repeatable. Know how many calories you should take in. Know your sweat rate. Stick to the plan. You will do fine with planning. Good luck!

With respect to this post, he SELLS InfinIT....seriously..

Trial and error...it's about getting the proper calories and fuel....Try several methods and find what works for you and your GI...



Edited by Tri'nNC 2009-01-28 4:10 PM
2009-01-28 4:24 PM
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Pretty well known that Michael sells Infinit, and even if you didn't know that his name and sig information make that clear.

And he gives out pretty solid information, while not overtly shilling his product other than to say that he prefers liquid nutrition (which is great, I'll shill it without a worry).  Infinit is certainly better than ho hos and grape juice, or whatever he posted

Although you used the sarcastic font, so not sure if you are saying there is some transparency issue or not......



Edited by ChrisM 2009-01-28 4:26 PM


2009-01-28 4:25 PM
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Subject: RE: Ok, let's talk eating on the bike.
Tri'nNC - 2009-01-28 4:08 PM

infinIT 1 - 2009-01-28 4:31 PM What ever you do just keep it simple and repeatable. I can eat a cheese burger on training rides, but race days my gut gets very finicky. Stress and pressure of a big race will cause you nutrition to derail very quickly. I have seen it over and over. I prefer liquids because it is much easier to guage your caloric intake. Gels are fine, I find them too sweet later in the day for my tastes. If you take gels, make sure that you are drinking water not sports drinks or your gut will get sideways. With respect to the people in this forum, stay away from the "I ate ho-ho's and drank pickle juice and it works great for me" advice. Seriously...LOL Keep it simple, repeatable. Know how many calories you should take in. Know your sweat rate. Stick to the plan. You will do fine with planning. Good luck!

With respect to this post, he SELLS InfinIT....seriously..

Trial and error...it's about getting the proper calories and fuel....Try several methods and find what works for you and your GI...




I have a ho-ho distributorship on the side...

Seriously, there are a lot of good products out there other than what I do. I tell you what I find works with thousands of athletes that I work with. I really try NOT to be product specific. I am not foolish enough to think think that we are the only game in town. In other words I agree with you.

BTW, I do know someone that drank pickle juice for CDL. Worked great in training, he looked real bad about half way thru the run before he DQ'd. He runs a company that you would all know...
2009-01-28 4:52 PM
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opps

 



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2009-01-28 4:53 PM
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I only do races with a drive through,, to much waiting in line kills my time.

2009-01-28 4:53 PM
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Gaarryy - 2009-01-28 2:52 PM

I only do races with a drive through,, to much waiting in line kills my time.

 

Friend at CdA stopped at a Subway on the bike route on each loop for a 6 incher.

2009-01-28 5:55 PM
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Subject: RE: Ok, let's talk eating on the bike.
Bento box. A couple gels. For variety's sake, one packet of Shot Bloks, one "Toasted Nut & Cranberry" Luna Bar (no frosting on that flavor, a little less dense than Clif Bar). I sliced open one side of the Luna Bar wrapper and left the bar inside it in the bento box so it couldn't accidentally wind up in pieces if I broke it getting something else out. All of it practiced on long rides, whether I needed the nutrition that day or not.

Most annoying thing is the netting top of my bento box keeps blowing closed and velcroing shut at times that I want it to stay open (like when I eat a gel and want to stick the empty packet right back inside).


2009-01-29 12:17 AM
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Subject: RE: Ok, let's talk eating on the bike.
ChrisM - 2009-01-28 4:53 PM
Gaarryy - 2009-01-28 2:52 PM

I only do races with a drive through,, to much waiting in line kills my time.

 

Friend at CdA stopped at a Subway on the bike route on each loop for a 6 incher.

Did he pre order those? Did they make it fresh each time or just had them all made at once?  Did he get them toasted?  So many unanswered questions.

 I thought that is what your drop bags were for anyways.

 That is why I like having an ultra marathon background.  I am the only person who will travel 50 miles on foot and gain weight. .

I so have to remember pickle juice ( ok I honestly do not get that one at all).

 

 

2009-01-29 9:06 AM
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Hey Chi,

Where have you been? I always enjoy your logical and often funny posts.


2009-01-29 10:18 AM
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chirunner134 - 2009-01-29 12:17 AM

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I so have to remember pickle juice ( ok I honestly do not get that one at all).

 

 



Neither do I. Pickles are "pickled" in brine, meaning salt water.

HINT: Part of the persons name who used it at CDL is Paul Neuman's character in a famous Western from the 60's.
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