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 2009-02-18 6:07 AM in reply to: #1967802 |
Cycling Guru  15134    Fulton, MD |  Subject: RE: IM Fuel Belt or no Fuel Belt... That is the question!CoastTrash - 2009-02-18 12:52 AM so you can use a camelback backpack style while racing? Or just the waist style. Sure. It is hot and uncomfortable, but you can do anything you want that is within the rules. |
| 2009-02-18 6:59 AM in reply to: #1965647 |
| The Natti | Subject: RE: IM Fuel Belt or no Fuel Belt... That is the question! Couple of observations: Men like Fuel Belts more than the ladies. I consistantly get the complaint that they "ride up" on the ladies right under their ribs. Makes it uncomfortable. Personally I don't know why you would NOT train without one. Consistent calories throughout your workout will shorten your recovery times, allowing you to train harder, thereby getting you fitter faster. For a 5k/10k, nah baby nah. For a marathon, I would. For a half or full IM. Yup for sure. You can mix in heavy concentrate for long racing and then squirt a little in the ice water at the aid stations. You normally can get 4-500 calories per bottle. That means that you can get most of your calories of your favorite product with not much fuss. The "rely on what is on the course" idea sounds easy, but inconsistant in its results. Edited by infinIT 1 2009-02-18 7:00 AM |
| 2009-02-18 7:10 AM in reply to: #1967903 |
Runner | Subject: RE: IM Fuel Belt or no Fuel Belt... That is the question! infinIT 1 - 2009-02-18 7:59 AM Couple of observations: Men like Fuel Belts more than the ladies. I consistantly get the complaint that they "ride up" on the ladies right under their ribs. Makes it uncomfortable. Personally I don't know why you would NOT train without one. Consistent calories throughout your workout will shorten your recovery times, allowing you to train harder, thereby getting you fitter faster. For a 5k/10k, nah baby nah. For a marathon, I would. For a half or full IM. Yup for sure. You can mix in heavy concentrate for long racing and then squirt a little in the ice water at the aid stations. You normally can get 4-500 calories per bottle. That means that you can get most of your calories of your favorite product with not much fuss. The "rely on what is on the course" idea sounds easy, but inconsistant in its results. If taking in calories lets me train harder and get fitter faster, why WOULDN'T I want to train with them for a 5K, or a 10K? |
| 2009-02-18 7:17 AM in reply to: #1967916 |
Master 1853  syracuse | Subject: RE: IM Fuel Belt or no Fuel Belt... That is the question! Do fuel belts have a compartment so I could store salt tabs? also, could I clip on my timex gps receiver to the belt so I wouldn't have to strap it to my arm (that thing is uncomfortable sometime). |
| 2009-02-18 7:37 AM in reply to: #1967916 |
| The Natti | Subject: RE: IM Fuel Belt or no Fuel Belt... That is the question! Scout7 - 2009-02-18 7:10 AM infinIT 1 - 2009-02-18 7:59 AM Couple of observations: Men like Fuel Belts more than the ladies. I consistantly get the complaint that they "ride up" on the ladies right under their ribs. Makes it uncomfortable. Personally I don't know why you would NOT train without one. Consistent calories throughout your workout will shorten your recovery times, allowing you to train harder, thereby getting you fitter faster. For a 5k/10k, nah baby nah. For a marathon, I would. For a half or full IM. Yup for sure. You can mix in heavy concentrate for long racing and then squirt a little in the ice water at the aid stations. You normally can get 4-500 calories per bottle. That means that you can get most of your calories of your favorite product with not much fuss. The "rely on what is on the course" idea sounds easy, but inconsistant in its results. If taking in calories lets me train harder and get fitter faster, why WOULDN'T I want to train with them for a 5K, or a 10K? For training, I would use it. Sorry if I was unclear. I meant for the race, it's just not necessary for a 20-30 min effort. If it is a 40 min "training" race effort, I probably would use it for the reasons I stated. If I am running hard, for a goal time, for 30-40 min I would go without. You have enough calories at the start line, you really do not need any extra calories. |
| 2009-02-18 7:44 AM in reply to: #1967955 |
Champion 7495 Schwamalamadingdong! | Subject: RE: IM Fuel Belt or no Fuel Belt... That is the question! Why would you need calories for the easier training effort but not for the harder race effort given the same duration? That seems backward. |
| 2009-02-18 7:45 AM in reply to: #1967925 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: IM Fuel Belt or no Fuel Belt... That is the question! cusetri - 2009-02-18 7:17 AM Do fuel belts have a compartment so I could store salt tabs? also, could I clip on my timex gps receiver to the belt so I wouldn't have to strap it to my arm (that thing is uncomfortable sometime). yes to both Qs |
| 2009-02-18 7:52 AM in reply to: #1965647 |
The Original 7834 Raleigh/Durham | Subject: RE: IM Fuel Belt or no Fuel Belt... That is the question! I wear a race belt for races that have little loops to hold gels, and a small pocket to hold whatever- a key, tylenol, etc. It works perfect for me when racing. I can pin my number over the little pocket so it's not even noticeable. I can't drink a lot of the sports drinks offered on race courses and usually carry my own hand held water bottle with GU2O in it. That's for marathons. For the IM I got sick of gels and ditched those for the run course. I lived off the aid stations. Since I took in enough sodium and sugar from the IM aid stations, I only drank water and Coke- no Gatorade Endustance for me and I felt great. So it's all personal preference as to whether or not you're comfortable wearing a fuel belt or not. I would personally only wear one for the IM if you need a special sports drink for the run course. If you can tolerate what they'll offer on the course then you may not need a fuel belt since aid stations are every mile. |
| 2009-02-18 7:58 AM in reply to: #1965647 |
| Alpharetta, GA | Subject: RE: IM Fuel Belt or no Fuel Belt... That is the question! I used to only use a fuelbelt for training, until I was racing a HIM and the support was terrible. Aid stations were self service at best, meaning you had to pour your own glass of Gatorade with the volunteers just standing there watching you. I vowed never to rely solely on aid stations again. I have found that if I have my fuel (gel in a flask on the belt as well as hydration), I know I can stick to my nutrition plan.....now doing it when you feel like puking is a whole new discussion, but I have what I need on me to stick to my plan. For me it's all about self sufficiency. Now I do pull from the aid stations when and where I can, but I know if something goes wrong and they run out of something like gels or salt tabs, I have my own. |
| 2009-02-18 8:18 AM in reply to: #1967963 |
| The Natti | Subject: RE: IM Fuel Belt or no Fuel Belt... That is the question! TheSchwamm - 2009-02-18 7:44 AM Why would you need calories for the easier training effort but not for the harder race effort given the same duration? That seems backward. Just depends on your goals. When I was training hard I was a 16-17 5k, 34 10k, 1:18 for a 1/2 marathon. During that kind of short effort, all you are really doing is going hard and trying not to throw up on yourself. Nutrition is not really a key component of that kind of racing. Does it tear you up? YES. But again, those were A races at 100% effort. I really was not worried about recovery time. Not something that you would do a lot. Training is lower effort and you can afford to take on calories. Time really does not matter. So...I take in calories. |
| 2009-02-18 8:25 AM in reply to: #1968024 |
Runner | Subject: RE: IM Fuel Belt or no Fuel Belt... That is the question! infinIT 1 - 2009-02-18 9:18 AM Training is lower effort and you can afford to take on calories. Time really does not matter. So...I take in calories. Every run? |
| 2009-02-18 8:39 AM in reply to: #1965647 |
Elite 3471 Evergreen, CO | Subject: RE: IM Fuel Belt or no Fuel Belt... That is the question! I usually race in a fuel belt on long runs because I refuse to drink out of a new paper cup every few miles then throw it away and because it's easier to drink out of bottles than paper cups. I wear a fuel belt on almost every training run because my dog's leash is on it and it's filled w/ plastic bags to clean up after my dog, inhaler, gels, sometimes a cell phone in case of emergency if I'm doing a long trail run and where there are few hikers. I wear my fuel belt down on my hips so it doesn't ride up. Like some others have said -- don't know what I'd do w/o it Edited by skarl 2009-02-18 8:40 AM |
| 2009-02-18 8:51 AM in reply to: #1965647 |
Veteran 147 Rota, Spain | Subject: RE: IM Fuel Belt or no Fuel Belt... That is the question! I also wear a fuel belt on longer runs. As I will be training with one for my HIM, I will more than likely wear it then too, just because I don't want to deviate much from my training. The "bouncing" which isn't much, doesn't bother me. |
| 2009-02-18 9:20 AM in reply to: #1968035 |
| The Natti | Subject: RE: IM Fuel Belt or no Fuel Belt... That is the question! Scout7 - 2009-02-18 8:25 AM infinIT 1 - 2009-02-18 9:18 AM Training is lower effort and you can afford to take on calories. Time really does not matter. So...I take in calories. Every run? Yea, for training prob 95% of the time. Even for a track workout, I will have a bottle for between intervals. Speedwork on a treadmill, have it sitting on the machine. I really don't run for anything less than an hour. I don't notice that I have a FB on anymore I'm so used to it. Where I train I have zero access to water, so I just carry some product with me. It might be different if I was passing a water fountain ever half hour. Edited by infinIT 1 2009-02-18 9:21 AM |
| 2009-02-18 9:26 AM in reply to: #1965647 |
Champion 6962 Atlanta, Ga | Subject: RE: IM Fuel Belt or no Fuel Belt... That is the question! I also take nurtrition/hydration with me on every run. Even if it's just a 30 min run. I figured train how you race. |
| 2009-02-18 9:28 AM in reply to: #1965647 |
Runner | Subject: RE: IM Fuel Belt or no Fuel Belt... That is the question! Huh. I'm pretty much the opposite. |
| 2009-02-18 11:09 AM in reply to: #1968184 |
| The Natti | Subject: RE: IM Fuel Belt or no Fuel Belt... That is the question! When I was 30 I was the same. I would just hammer along. 2 1/2 hour run with nothing, no big deal. Now that I am at a more advanced age....sigh....I have to pay attention to nutrition during the workout. I can go long just fine, but I just don't recover as well. |
| 2009-02-18 11:46 AM in reply to: #1965647 |
Extreme Veteran 477 | Subject: RE: IM Fuel Belt or no Fuel Belt... That is the question! I have carried Heed and gels with me more this year than ever before and I notice a difference for anything over 7 miles or so. infinIT 1, when you posted the following I know you are talking about INFINIT but I really like the idea for my Heed also. "You can mix in heavy concentrate for long racing and then squirt a little in the ice water at the aid stations. You normally can get 4-500 calories per bottle. That means that you can get most of your calories of your favorite product with not much fuss. " Good tip! |
| 2009-02-18 12:18 PM in reply to: #1968608 |
| The Natti | Subject: RE: IM Fuel Belt or no Fuel Belt... That is the question! tritank - 2009-02-18 11:46 AM I have carried Heed and gels with me more this year than ever before and I notice a difference for anything over 7 miles or so. infinIT 1, when you posted the following I know you are talking about INFINIT but I really like the idea for my Heed also. "You can mix in heavy concentrate for long racing and then squirt a little in the ice water at the aid stations. You normally can get 4-500 calories per bottle. That means that you can get most of your calories of your favorite product with not much fuss. " Good tip! I really try not being a total pimp for INFINIT (I swear). I try and stay non-product focused. That way if you are a Hammer or Powerbar or whatever user, you can still use the information. The great thing about that system, is that when you squirt a little into ice water, it is cold, nothing worse than warm HEED or Perpep. Cold drinks increases absorbtion rates. |
| 2009-02-18 12:32 PM in reply to: #1968510 |
Runner | Subject: RE: IM Fuel Belt or no Fuel Belt... That is the question! infinIT 1 - 2009-02-18 12:09 PM When I was 30 I was the same. I would just hammer along. 2 1/2 hour run with nothing, no big deal. Now that I am at a more advanced age....sigh....I have to pay attention to nutrition during the workout. I can go long just fine, but I just don't recover as well. Huh. I always related it to intensity, and just run easier when I don't recover well. |
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