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2009-03-22 6:54 PM

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Elite
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Subject: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build

I'm going to be ordering a PowerTap this week and am trying to decide what type of wheel build I want.  I'll be using the wheel for both training and racing, so I think I'd like a light versatile wheel that I can put a wheel cover on for race day.

So here's my questions:  Since I plan on putting a wheel cover on it, should I bother with getting a relatively aerodynamic wheel to start with or should I just get something light, knowing that it'll be aero once I put the cover on?

 

Thanks for the help.  I need to get this ordered before my wife changes her mind!



2009-03-22 7:21 PM
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2009-03-22 7:25 PM
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Coach
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Subject: RE: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build

My 1st PT I laced it on a DT swiss RR1.1 which is a bomb proof wheel for training and used the disc cover for racing (I traing on that right now). A few years later I also got a 2nd PT on a Hed Jet 90 for racing (I still add a smaller disc cover if I want a disc). The Jet is a very resistant wheel as it is a regular wheel with aero carbon fairing and it could be used as an every day wheel for sure.

You can certainly go either way depends how much $$ you want to spend and all.

2009-03-22 7:32 PM
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Subject: RE: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build
2009-03-22 8:32 PM
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Elite
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Subject: RE: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build
JorgeM - 2009-03-22 7:25 PM

My 1st PT I laced it on a DT swiss RR1.1 which is a bomb proof wheel for training and used the disc cover for racing (I traing on that right now). A few years later I also got a 2nd PT on a Hed Jet 90 for racing (I still add a smaller disc cover if I want a disc). The Jet is a very resistant wheel as it is a regular wheel with aero carbon fairing and it could be used as an every day wheel for sure.

You can certainly go either way depends how much $$ you want to spend and all.

I guess that's what I don't get.  What's the advantage of using a good race wheel like a Hed or a Zipp if I'm going to put the wheel cover on.  I guess that gives you the option of using the wheel without the cover, but then how much of an advantage does the cover even provide?

Follow up questions:  My plan had been to order the PT through the LBS that is a dealer for Saris and have them build a wheel to suit me.  Is it better to go with a prebuilt wheel?

Jorge, where did you get the Hed PT wheel?  

2009-03-23 7:58 AM
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Subject: RE: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build

I like a deeper rim because you get a better fit with the wheelcover. Doesn't have to be too deep - 27mm or so. If you go with something like a DT swiss your cover will have a lip on it. 

Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, and with that killer deal posted above I'd ignore it.  



2009-03-23 9:14 AM
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Elite
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Subject: RE: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build
lrobb - 2009-03-23 7:58 AM

I like a deeper rim because you get a better fit with the wheelcover. Doesn't have to be too deep - 27mm or so. If you go with something like a DT swiss your cover will have a lip on it. 

Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, and with that killer deal posted above I'd ignore it.  

 

That was definitely a good deal posted above. 

I've been playing around on the wheelbuilder.com website, and they have some incredible deals for entire PT systems.  DT Swiss, flashpoint, etc.   Plus they can then build the cover to match it at the same time and ship w/ the wheel. 

2009-03-23 9:25 AM
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Subject: RE: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build
AndrewMT - 2009-03-23 9:14 AM

lrobb - 2009-03-23 7:58 AM

I like a deeper rim because you get a better fit with the wheelcover. Doesn't have to be too deep - 27mm or so. If you go with something like a DT swiss your cover will have a lip on it. 

Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, and with that killer deal posted above I'd ignore it.  

 

That was definitely a good deal posted above. 

I've been playing around on the wheelbuilder.com website, and they have some incredible deals for entire PT systems.  DT Swiss, flashpoint, etc.   Plus they can then build the cover to match it at the same time and ship w/ the wheel. 



I just got my power tap wheel from wheelbuilder and give them two thumbs up....I used the DT swiss deep wheel with cover.
2009-03-23 9:45 AM
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Master
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Subject: RE: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build
I went with the DT-Swiss RR1.2 rim so I could use it on the road for racing and on the trainer. Its a sweet wheel!
2009-03-23 9:49 AM
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Elite
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Subject: RE: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build

running2far - 2009-03-23 9:25 AM  I just got my power tap wheel from wheelbuilder and give them two thumbs up....I used the DT swiss deep wheel with cover.

 

Did you call them and do the interview process or did you already know what you wanted when you called?  Also, how long did it take for the wheel to get to you?  Thanks!

2009-03-23 10:14 AM
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Subject: RE: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build

Contact wheelbuilder directly and ask them for input.  Rich Sawris helped me to decide that for my purposes, a 32-spoke Velocity Deep V would be the best bet.  I was on the heavier side for a DT Swiss (though they would have built that one for me had I chosen it).  But they patiently answered all my questions and helped walk me through my decision process.

Personally, unless you don't care to much about the cost, I don't see much reason not to go with a "bomb-proof" type training wheel and a disc cover.  Even with the extra weight penalty.



2009-03-23 10:40 AM
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Elite
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Subject: RE: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build
JohnnyKay - 2009-03-23 10:14 AM

Contact wheelbuilder directly and ask them for input.  Rich Sawris helped me to decide that for my purposes, a 32-spoke Velocity Deep V would be the best bet.  I was on the heavier side for a DT Swiss (though they would have built that one for me had I chosen it).  But they patiently answered all my questions and helped walk me through my decision process.

Personally, unless you don't care to much about the cost, I don't see much reason not to go with a "bomb-proof" type training wheel and a disc cover.  Even with the extra weight penalty.

 

How do you like the Deep V? It looks to be lighter than the DT Swiss, but possibly a little deeper. 

I plan on calling them this morning, so I'll be intereted to see what they recommend.

2009-03-23 10:48 AM
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Subject: RE: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build
AndrewMT - 2009-03-23 10:40 AM

JohnnyKay - 2009-03-23 10:14 AM

Contact wheelbuilder directly and ask them for input.  Rich Sawris helped me to decide that for my purposes, a 32-spoke Velocity Deep V would be the best bet.  I was on the heavier side for a DT Swiss (though they would have built that one for me had I chosen it).  But they patiently answered all my questions and helped walk me through my decision process.

Personally, unless you don't care to much about the cost, I don't see much reason not to go with a "bomb-proof" type training wheel and a disc cover.  Even with the extra weight penalty.

 

How do you like the Deep V? It looks to be lighter than the DT Swiss, but possibly a little deeper. 

I plan on calling them this morning, so I'll be intereted to see what they recommend.



Just check my order, I actually got the Velocity Deep V not DT Swiss. It took about a week to arrive via Fed Ex ground....
2009-03-23 10:51 AM
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Subject: RE: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build
AndrewMT - 2009-03-23 10:40 AM
JohnnyKay - 2009-03-23 10:14 AM

Contact wheelbuilder directly and ask them for input.  Rich Sawris helped me to decide that for my purposes, a 32-spoke Velocity Deep V would be the best bet.  I was on the heavier side for a DT Swiss (though they would have built that one for me had I chosen it).  But they patiently answered all my questions and helped walk me through my decision process.

Personally, unless you don't care to much about the cost, I don't see much reason not to go with a "bomb-proof" type training wheel and a disc cover.  Even with the extra weight penalty.

 

How do you like the Deep V? It looks to be lighter than the DT Swiss, but possibly a little deeper. 

I plan on calling them this morning, so I'll be intereted to see what they recommend.

Andrew, when you call wheelbuilder tell Rich that you are a Personal Best Multisport athlete and work with me. You'll get a 10-15% off IIRC
2009-03-23 10:54 AM
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Elite
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Subject: RE: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build
JorgeM - 2009-03-23 10:51 AM
AndrewMT - 2009-03-23 10:40 AM
JohnnyKay - 2009-03-23 10:14 AM

Contact wheelbuilder directly and ask them for input.  Rich Sawris helped me to decide that for my purposes, a 32-spoke Velocity Deep V would be the best bet.  I was on the heavier side for a DT Swiss (though they would have built that one for me had I chosen it).  But they patiently answered all my questions and helped walk me through my decision process.

Personally, unless you don't care to much about the cost, I don't see much reason not to go with a "bomb-proof" type training wheel and a disc cover.  Even with the extra weight penalty.

 

How do you like the Deep V? It looks to be lighter than the DT Swiss, but possibly a little deeper. 

I plan on calling them this morning, so I'll be intereted to see what they recommend.

Andrew, when you call wheelbuilder tell Rich that you are a Personal Best Multisport athlete and work with me. You'll get a 10-15% off IIRC

That works for me! 

 



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2009-03-23 11:18 AM
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Subject: RE: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build
AndrewMT - 2009-03-23 11:40 AM
JohnnyKay - 2009-03-23 10:14 AM

Contact wheelbuilder directly and ask them for input.  Rich Sawris helped me to decide that for my purposes, a 32-spoke Velocity Deep V would be the best bet.  I was on the heavier side for a DT Swiss (though they would have built that one for me had I chosen it).  But they patiently answered all my questions and helped walk me through my decision process.

Personally, unless you don't care to much about the cost, I don't see much reason not to go with a "bomb-proof" type training wheel and a disc cover.  Even with the extra weight penalty.

 

How do you like the Deep V? It looks to be lighter than the DT Swiss, but possibly a little deeper. 

I plan on calling them this morning, so I'll be intereted to see what they recommend.

No problems with the Deep V.  I always race it with the wheel cover.  IIRC, the DT Swiss option was a bit lighter than the Deep V.  That was about 3 years ago though...



2009-03-23 4:45 PM
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Elite
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Subject: RE: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build
After talking with Rich at Wheelbuilder, he's recommending the Kinlin rims.  Not quite as strong as the DT Swiss or Velocity, but I'm light enough that the weight savings are worth it.  24 spoke with the PT Pro+ Hub.  Overall seems like a good deal and a good build.  Any thoughts?
2009-03-23 4:50 PM
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Subject: RE: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build
Don't mean to hijack.  But I was considering to have my stock shimano wheels that came with my P2C relaced with a PT if I ever get one.  Bad idea?
2009-03-23 5:24 PM
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Subject: RE: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build

AndrewMT - 2009-03-23 5:45 PM After talking with Rich at Wheelbuilder, he's recommending the Kinlin rims.  Not quite as strong as the DT Swiss or Velocity, but I'm light enough that the weight savings are worth it.  24 spoke with the PT Pro+ Hub.  Overall seems like a good deal and a good build.  Any thoughts?

I would take Rich's advice on wheels over anybody here. 

2009-03-23 5:47 PM
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Subject: RE: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build
JohnnyKay - 2009-03-23 5:24 PM

AndrewMT - 2009-03-23 5:45 PM After talking with Rich at Wheelbuilder, he's recommending the Kinlin rims.  Not quite as strong as the DT Swiss or Velocity, but I'm light enough that the weight savings are worth it.  24 spoke with the PT Pro+ Hub.  Overall seems like a good deal and a good build.  Any thoughts?

I would take Rich's advice on wheels over anybody here

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2009-03-23 5:54 PM
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Subject: RE: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build
Aikidoman - 2009-03-23 5:50 PM

Don't mean to hijack. But I was considering to have my stock shimano wheels that came with my P2C relaced with a PT if I ever get one. Bad idea?


you will first need to check to see if your shimano wheel's spoke pattern is compatible with the powerTap hub. contact Saris....thats what I did to see if my rear Bontrager wheel would work, but it didn't, so I went with a DT-Swiss instead.

Hopefully your shimano wheel works, so you don't have to get a new wheel! but check first...


2009-03-23 5:58 PM
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Subject: RE: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build
x3

Rich built my PT hub around a Mavic rim. In fact, I already a PT (brand new) with the wrong spoke count for the rim he suggested. He swapped it out with the right one, no charge.
2009-03-23 6:18 PM
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Elite
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Spring, TX
Subject: RE: Choosing wheel for PowerTap build
JohnnyKay - 2009-03-23 5:24 PM

AndrewMT - 2009-03-23 5:45 PM After talking with Rich at Wheelbuilder, he's recommending the Kinlin rims.  Not quite as strong as the DT Swiss or Velocity, but I'm light enough that the weight savings are worth it.  24 spoke with the PT Pro+ Hub.  Overall seems like a good deal and a good build.  Any thoughts?

I would take Rich's advice on wheels over anybody here. 

Don't worry, I took his advice.  Just thought I'd see what the opinon on Kinlin rims were. 

Anyway, thanks for all the help.  The order is placed (including disk covers), so now I just need to be patient and wait!  

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