Garmin 305 vs 310xt
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2009-04-13 3:27 PM |
Master 2327 North Alabama | Subject: Garmin 305 vs 310xt We all know the new Garmin 310xt has debuted and is pretty nice to look at. It's basically the 305 upgraded. Now, I just received (read 2 days ago) a brand new Garmin 305 (which was purchased before the 310) was released. It was a gift to me for the tri sports. Very nice gift I might add! After receiving it, I was told we could look into exchanging it for the 310, but here's where some questions come in. Is the only obvious difference the battery, waterproofness, and wireless data transfer? Does anyone see anything else that makes it that much further up the ladder? Looking them up, the 310 is retailing for $359. The 305 is retailing for $175. Is the 310 really worth an extra $185? Would I really be missing out keeping the 305? How long does the battery really last? Will it get me through an Oly before dying? Could I push it out and get it to a middle-of-the-pack HIM finish time? Don't get me wrong, I'm excited, but I'm also not wanting to turn down an opportunity to upgrade either. Opinions, Comments, Thoughts? |
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2009-04-13 4:28 PM in reply to: #2081566 |
Master 1811 Nashville, TN | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt i really dont think it is because even though u can swim with it, it does not record GPS in water because can not read when in the water, therefore just waterproof but not useful. chris |
2009-04-13 4:42 PM in reply to: #2081566 |
Expert 762 Missouri | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt I think it depends on what you want to use it for. If you are just doing distances up to and including Half Ironman, then the 305 would work just fine. Now if you are wanting to do Ironman distances and you also want to train with Power, then the 310 is the way to go. If you just bought the 305 then you would also have to get a 705 Edge for the bike to record Power Outputs from a powermeter, or some other type of power reading device. For me, the 310 is the way to go. . no questions about it. But for others, the 305 is perfect. |
2009-04-13 4:44 PM in reply to: #2081566 |
Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt Is the only obvious difference the battery, waterproofness, and wireless data transfer? Does anyone see anything else that makes it that much further up the ladder? Far as I can tell. I don't care about swimming with it for GPS sake. But for me the waterproof issue is important, the speakers on the 305 are on the back (for alerting to lap splits, etc.). I sweat enough that I've fried two sets of speakers. I would think the 310 solves this. I am also doing a bike/run/swim/run/swim/run/swim/run race this year, and think the 310 will be good for that.... Looking them up, the 310 is retailing for $359. The 305 is retailing for $175. Is the 310 really worth an extra $185? Would I really be missing out keeping the 305? Marketing. The 305 was 350 or so when it came out. 4 years from now, the 310 will be 175 and the 510 will be 350. And the wheels go round and round..... How long does the battery really last? Will it get me through an Oly before dying? Could I push it out and get it to a middle-of-the-pack HIM finish time? A pretty long time, definitely get you thru an Oly and a HIM without pushing it. 305 is a great unit. |
2009-04-13 4:47 PM in reply to: #2081566 |
Regular 316 | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt Best Buy has the 305 on sale of $160; I still can't do the math to buy that while by 301 is working just dandy. Someone convince me as to why i need the 305. |
2009-04-13 5:12 PM in reply to: #2081566 |
Extreme Veteran 378 Seattle | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt It looks to me like the new 310 does not come with the HR monitor strap by default - it's an optional extra for an additional $60 (or more for the 'premium' HRM strap). |
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2009-04-13 5:23 PM in reply to: #2081809 |
Master 2327 North Alabama | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt danielc - 2009-04-13 5:12 PM It looks to me like the new 310 does not come with the HR monitor strap by default - it's an optional extra for an additional $60 (or more for the 'premium' HRM strap). Didn't catch that. Ok. So to get the 310 w/ HRM add another $60. That makes it a litte tougher. It's good to hear the 305 battery can go out farther. I have heard that it was good for maybe 3-3.5hrs of recording. For now, I'm shooting for Oly's and HIM. Niether of which I've competed in yet. Those are my goals. Maybe later, way later down the line I'll look at IM. I'm guessing the 305 for now will be fine. Anybody know what the general battery time is? Is it really the 8hrs they say on their website? |
2009-04-13 5:43 PM in reply to: #2081829 |
Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt LostSheep - 2009-04-13 3:23 PM danielc - 2009-04-13 5:12 PM It looks to me like the new 310 does not come with the HR monitor strap by default - it's an optional extra for an additional $60 (or more for the 'premium' HRM strap). Didn't catch that. Ok. So to get the 310 w/ HRM add another $60. That makes it a litte tougher. It's good to hear the 305 battery can go out farther. I have heard that it was good for maybe 3-3.5hrs of recording. For now, I'm shooting for Oly's and HIM. Niether of which I've competed in yet. Those are my goals. Maybe later, way later down the line I'll look at IM. I'm guessing the 305 for now will be fine. Anybody know what the general battery time is? Is it really the 8hrs they say on their website? I know people have gone 10+ with them. I haven't pushed it out that far, but have used it for 3 HIMs without issue. Didn't use it for IM |
2009-04-13 6:16 PM in reply to: #2081566 |
Member 51 | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt I have the Garmin 405 and I think just that extra little money is well worth. It does everything imaginable and I wouldn't change anything about it. I can get a signal anywhere in a matter of seconds and this watch seems like it was made for triathlon |
2009-04-13 6:30 PM in reply to: #2081566 |
Frugal Gear Geek 2199 having fun with the kids | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt I am eyeing the 310 myself. It is massively al a cart right now. It comes very basic, but to add the HRM, bike mount etc to it will get $$$ I like the waterproof, just because it realy is a pain to get stuck in a massive downpore while using sensitive electronics. Nuked an Ipod that way. I am very intrested in the swim aspect, especialy since I know a few people using the 305 under swim caps to check how good they are sighting when in the water. With that said, I am a techno weenie on a massive budget, so I will continue to wait for at least the first few months to go by. Let someone else be the first in line like the Iphones and get the bugs in the softwear sorted out before I put my money down Good luck, and let us know what you end up doing. |
2009-04-13 6:43 PM in reply to: #2081566 |
Expert 727 South Windsor CT | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt I can't wait to buy the 310xt, I really like my 205 but the added advantage of being able to swim with it will make it worth the cost, not to mention garmin's great customer service. |
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2009-04-14 12:07 PM in reply to: #2081959 |
Veteran 242 New York, New York | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt I just want to add that it looks like the face is smaller. :-) Big plus for a girl like me. dbw27 |
2009-04-14 1:05 PM in reply to: #2081566 |
Master 2327 North Alabama | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt I took the 305 on the maiden run last night and the amount of info available is OVERWHELMING! I knew it was awesome, just didn't know it was THAT awesome. Seeing as how I can buy 2 305's for the price of the 310, I think I'll stick w/ the 305. Plus, if the battery can easily go HIM distance, I think I'll be fine. I see no need. That was one of my biggest concerns actually. I think I'll save the difference on something bike related actually. |
2009-04-14 4:15 PM in reply to: #2081744 |
Expert 1049 Burnaby, BC | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt Tell3131 - 2009-04-13 2:42 PM Now if you are wanting to do Ironman distances and you also want to train with Power, then the 310 is the way to go. If you just bought the 305 then you would also have to get a 705 Edge for the bike to record Power Outputs from a powermeter, or some other type of power reading device. Has anyone tested the 310 with a PowerMeter yet? The Edge 705 still has some major issues with reliably recording power. Missing data every few seconds when set to 1s recording makes the data pretty unreliable. |
2009-04-15 7:57 AM in reply to: #2081566 |
Extreme Veteran 669 Olathe, Kansas | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt Waterproof, ant+ are good enough reasons for me. I have used 305 with a lot of success training and racing, including HIM. Battery lasts for me as Garmin advertises up to 10 hours. I think 310XT all the way. |
2009-04-15 8:10 AM in reply to: #2084374 |
Expert 762 Missouri | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt daijoubu - 2009-04-14 4:15 PM Tell3131 - 2009-04-13 2:42 PM Now if you are wanting to do Ironman distances and you also want to train with Power, then the 310 is the way to go. If you just bought the 305 then you would also have to get a 705 Edge for the bike to record Power Outputs from a powermeter, or some other type of power reading device. Has anyone tested the 310 with a PowerMeter yet? The Edge 705 still has some major issues with reliably recording power. Missing data every few seconds when set to 1s recording makes the data pretty unreliable. The guys I know that use the 705 with Quarq powermeter have had zero issues. |
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2009-04-15 9:27 PM in reply to: #2081566 |
Extreme Veteran 961 | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt I got a call today from the guy at the local running store (Gary Gribble's in OP for Atasic and Tell3131 who has been tracking down the 310 for me. He said the first package without a HR strap or waterproof band (seriously? how could it not be waterproof?) will come out on May 8th. Shouldn't be a big deal since the existing 305 HR strap is supposed work with the 310. Another 310xt package with a HR strap and waterproof band will will come out in July. I've got store credit there for a 405 that I returned, so I'll probably grab one of the first batch of 310s. Edited by wingsfan 2009-04-15 9:30 PM |
2009-04-16 9:45 PM in reply to: #2081566 |
Champion 10471 Dallas, TX | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt Wait... how can the 310XT not record distance distance in the water? That's odd. I do see that it says it records your time in the water.... so I guess it doesn't? I looked at their Knowledge Base online but couldn't find the answer to my question. If it won't record the DISTANCE in the water... what's the point again? The 305 will last during a HIM, no problem. |
2009-04-17 5:51 AM in reply to: #2087772 |
Extreme Veteran 669 Olathe, Kansas | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt wingsfan - 2009-04-15 9:27 PM I got a call today from the guy at the local running store (Gary Gribble's in OP for Atasic and Tell3131 who has been tracking down the 310 for me. He said the first package without a HR strap or waterproof band (seriously? how could it not be waterproof?) will come out on May 8th. Shouldn't be a big deal since the existing 305 HR strap is supposed work with the 310. Another 310xt package with a HR strap and waterproof band will will come out in July. I've got store credit there for a 405 that I returned, so I'll probably grab one of the first batch of 310s. I will give it a little time. Probably September or so, than I evaluate my equipment needs for the next season and have everything set up by end of October, before I start training for the next season. I will get my 310XT trough Jeff as I will also have him install Quarq. I am excited finaly, we are getting a device I wanted all along. I wanted one computer for training and racing as well as capable all three sports. Time for the race swim is all I needed for the water part, but power meter was a must. 310XT does it there. As far as distance in the water, I train in pools, distance is a known factor. Open water, time is all I need. I take the race distance from the Race Director, as presented. Training open water, I know approximately what my swim pace is and again use time to get a rough distance. Not great, but does it for me. |
2009-04-17 9:19 AM in reply to: #2087772 |
Expert 762 Missouri | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt wingsfan - 2009-04-15 9:27 PM I got a call today from the guy at the local running store (Gary Gribble's in OP for Atasic and Tell3131 who has been tracking down the 310 for me. He said the first package without a HR strap or waterproof band (seriously? how could it not be waterproof?) will come out on May 8th. Shouldn't be a big deal since the existing 305 HR strap is supposed work with the 310. Another 310xt package with a HR strap and waterproof band will will come out in July. I've got store credit there for a 405 that I returned, so I'll probably grab one of the first batch of 310s. Thanks for the update. This seems to coincide with what others are saying and what I can find online. I am a little confused though. .what is this waterproof band? Is this the HR strap? I have a Garmin 705 (for sale in Classifieds) but I may have to keep that for the bike and Powermeter and just stick with my Polar for HR. . . I like Atasic would like something that does everything, but may wait till next season to put down the bucks on the 310XT. . .of course once I see one all nice and shiny in the package, my checkbook may plop out and ink may appear! |
2009-04-17 11:47 AM in reply to: #2091202 |
Expert 1049 Burnaby, BC | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt Tell3131 - 2009-04-17 7:19 AM I have a Garmin 705 (for sale in Classifieds) but I may have to keep that for the bike and Powermeter and just stick with my Polar for HR. . . I like Atasic would like something that does everything, but may wait till next season to put down the bucks on the 310XT. . .of course once I see one all nice and shiny in the package, my checkbook may plop out and ink may appear! What powermeter do you have? The coded 2.4 strap for my PowerTap works with my 305 (it's the same strap with a different logo printed on it) so it should work with a 310xt. |
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2009-04-17 5:06 PM in reply to: #2090459 |
Expert 1103 Plano, TX | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt KSH - 2009-04-16 9:45 PM Wait... how can the 310XT not record distance distance in the water? That's odd. I do see that it says it records your time in the water.... so I guess it doesn't? I looked at their Knowledge Base online but couldn't find the answer to my question. If it won't record the DISTANCE in the water... what's the point again? The 305 will last during a HIM, no problem. Karen, GPS operates at a frequency that attenuates (decreases in strength) very quickly in water. Thus, the watch is unable to stay locked on to a signal as you are swimming. Hence, it can't determine distance. (Some people get around this by putting the Garmin in their swim cap, effectively keeping it above the water.) Any watch functions, such as the stopwatch for time, should certainly continue to function regardless of the environment. Thus, it will definitely be able to record your time in the water. |
2009-04-18 8:10 PM in reply to: #2091202 |
Extreme Veteran 961 | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt Tell3131 - 2009-04-17 9:19 AM wingsfan - 2009-04-15 9:27 PM I got a call today from the guy at the local running store (Gary Gribble's in OP for Atasic and Tell3131 who has been tracking down the 310 for me. He said the first package without a HR strap or waterproof band (seriously? how could it not be waterproof?) will come out on May 8th. Shouldn't be a big deal since the existing 305 HR strap is supposed work with the 310. Another 310xt package with a HR strap and waterproof band will will come out in July. I've got store credit there for a 405 that I returned, so I'll probably grab one of the first batch of 310s. Thanks for the update. This seems to coincide with what others are saying and what I can find online. I am a little confused though. .what is this waterproof band? Is this the HR strap? I have a Garmin 705 (for sale in Classifieds) but I may have to keep that for the bike and Powermeter and just stick with my Polar for HR. . . I like Atasic would like something that does everything, but may wait till next season to put down the bucks on the 310XT. . .of course once I see one all nice and shiny in the package, my checkbook may plop out and ink may appear! I need to call him back, he left all that in a voice mail. However, it sounded like he was talking about the watch band itself. In the pictures, the band looks the same as any Ironman watch, not sure how it wouldn't be waterproof. He couldn't have been referring to the band on the HR strap, because in the sentence before, he'd told me the first batch wouldn't have a HR strap. Plus, I've worn my HR strap for my 305 in the water plenty of times, they are already waterproof. I'll update once I have a chance to talk with him. |
2009-04-19 2:48 PM in reply to: #2081566 |
Expert 762 Missouri | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt Thanks Wingsfan. Question for anyone. Will the Garmin HR Strap work between their products. For instance will the Garmin 705 HR strap (that came with it) work with a Forerunner 305? And vice versa? I wonder if the Garmin HR straps we have now will work with the 310XT? Thanks everyone! Edited by Tell3131 2009-04-19 2:49 PM |
2009-04-20 8:41 AM in reply to: #2095482 |
Extreme Veteran 669 Olathe, Kansas | Subject: RE: Garmin 305 vs 310xt Tell3131 - 2009-04-19 2:48 PM Thanks Wingsfan. Question for anyone. Will the Garmin HR Strap work between their products. For instance will the Garmin 705 HR strap (that came with it) work with a Forerunner 305? And vice versa? I wonder if the Garmin HR straps we have now will work with the 310XT? Thanks everyone! Looking at the part numbers listed for HR monitor for all 3 devices, I would say yes. The premium HR monitor is listed as 010-10997-02 for all three. |
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