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2009-08-13 9:08 AM |
569 | Subject: Sighting First sprint this weekend. I am thinking of sighting every 8 strokes? What do you guys do???Sighting for me is just picking up my head to get a small look....It really messes with my stroke so I do not want to do more then every 8... |
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2009-08-13 9:09 AM in reply to: #2345900 |
Pro 4827 McKinney, TX | Subject: RE: Sighting Have you practiced this? How far did you get off sighting every 8? I try to sight every 4-6 strokes. |
2009-08-13 9:11 AM in reply to: #2345900 |
569 | Subject: RE: Sighting I have.. every 8 kept me in the general direction. At the distance, It was at it was really hard to tell if I was off. |
2009-08-13 9:15 AM in reply to: #2345900 |
Veteran 178 | Subject: RE: Sighting transitioning from the pool to open water i had alot of trouble with sighting but if you over exagerate in the pool by sighting every 3 or 4 you'll learn the best way to get your eyes up and able to see without slowing yourself down or ruining your stroke, |
2009-08-13 9:16 AM in reply to: #2345900 |
569 | Subject: RE: Sighting Do I wish it was part of my stroke.. Once my head goes up my butt goes down... Frustarting!!! Feel like I have to get the momemnum going again.. |
2009-08-13 9:17 AM in reply to: #2345900 |
Veteran 237 Buffalo Grove | Subject: RE: Sighting I try to sight every 20 to 50 strokes (depending on the distance of the Swim). You can incorporate your sighting into your stroke and it will have less of an impact. For this example I will assume that you breath on your right When you take your breath, your left arm will be out front and your right arm is behind you. As you begin to move your right arm forward to begin the catch phase of your stroke, rather than rotating your head back into the water sort of lift your head up and rotate forwared to sight. When you do this, your sighting actually becomes part of your stroke and it does not "mess" with the stroke / rythm as much. |
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2009-08-13 9:23 AM in reply to: #2345927 |
Champion 7036 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: Sighting kburk09 - 2009-08-13 10:15 AM transitioning from the pool to open water i had alot of trouble with sighting but if you over exagerate in the pool by sighting every 3 or 4 you'll learn the best way to get your eyes up and able to see without slowing yourself down or ruining your stroke, I find I develop a nice rhythm with sighting if I practive enough in the pool. (I use the old trick of putting my water bottle on the pool deck as target). I'm not the straightest OW swimmer, so I tend to sight more often to keep track of my reference points. I hate it when I lose track and have to slow down and revert to breaststroke to get my bearings. Mark |
2009-08-13 9:29 AM in reply to: #2345900 |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: Sighting Here is my technique as best as I can describe it while sitting at my desk trying not to have my co-workers notice what I am doing. As someone above described, as my right arm starts it's recovery, rather than turn my head to the side to breathe, I quickly peek forward and then turn my head to the side to grab a breath. Then I will typically take 4 - 6 normal strokes, breathing as required and then repeat the little peek. If I don't see my target properly during the peek, I just repeat it on the next stroke until I'm happy with my aim. I can do this without disrupting the flow of my stroke and it keeps me fairly well on target - at least until I get tired, at which point I find I am drifting left every time I sight but that's just my lazy left arm... |
2009-08-13 9:33 AM in reply to: #2345900 |
569 | Subject: RE: Sighting I breathe on my left. Nobody every told me how to sight so I just worked on it myself.. Here is what I do.. As my right hnad comes out of the water my head is still down. At it enters the water at the "catch" I use that little resistance to pull my head up and take a peek. When i do that I usally miss a breath on that stroke. I then go back to 7 normal strokes until its time to sight again... Suggestions please??????????? |
2009-08-13 9:40 AM in reply to: #2345989 |
Pro 6582 Melbourne FL | Subject: RE: Sighting axteraa - 2009-08-13 10:29 AM Here is my technique as best as I can describe it while sitting at my desk trying not to have my co-workers notice what I am doing. As someone above described, as my right arm starts it's recovery, rather than turn my head to the side to breathe, I quickly peek forward and then turn my head to the side to grab a breath. Then I will typically take 4 - 6 normal strokes, breathing as required and then repeat the little peek. If I don't see my target properly during the peek, I just repeat it on the next stroke until I'm happy with my aim. I can do this without disrupting the flow of my stroke and it keeps me fairly well on target - at least until I get tired, at which point I find I am drifting left every time I sight but that's just my lazy left arm... Pretty much ditto here. If you don't keep the elbow high you start to push the water down which will drop the legs. Also, I started doing a core workout as part of my training (more or less) in 07. I was amazed how much doing it helped my biking and swimming. |
2009-08-13 9:48 AM in reply to: #2345900 |
Modesto, California | Subject: RE: Sighting Thaitri - 2009-08-13 7:08 AM First sprint this weekend. I am thinking of sighting every 8 strokes? What do you guys do???Sighting for me is just picking up my head to get a small look....It really messes with my stroke so I do not want to do more then every 8... Sight as few times as possible, 8 may be too little or too much, adapt as you go. You may find that there is a ton of splashing,crowded,current,etc that may limit swimming straight. Each race will be different, as long as you can sight well dont worry about how many times or strokes you will need to do it , just get into your groove! Edited by nevergivin 2009-08-13 9:49 AM |
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2009-08-13 9:51 AM in reply to: #2345989 |
Extreme Veteran 417 Buford GA | Subject: RE: Sighting axteraa - 2009-08-13 10:29 AM Here is my technique as best as I can describe it while sitting at my desk trying not to have my co-workers notice what I am doing. As someone above described, as my right arm starts it's recovery, rather than turn my head to the side to breathe, I quickly peek forward and then turn my head to the side to grab a breath. Then I will typically take 4 - 6 normal strokes, breathing as required and then repeat the little peek. If I don't see my target properly during the peek, I just repeat it on the next stroke until I'm happy with my aim. I can do this without disrupting the flow of my stroke and it keeps me fairly well on target - at least until I get tired, at which point I find I am drifting left every time I sight but that's just my lazy left arm... do the same although somtimes I switch between sighting first or breathing first without even noticing why I switched. I found that if I check every 4-6 I stay pretty much dead straight and overall that means i cover less ground and use tons less energy then assuming I am going straight and sighting less often. Since the way I site takes little more effort and is incorporated into the breath it is smooth and steady. |
2009-08-13 9:52 AM in reply to: #2345989 |
Extreme Veteran 475 Watertown, MA | Subject: RE: Sighting axteraa - 2009-08-13 9:29 AM Here is my technique as best as I can describe it while sitting at my desk trying not to have my co-workers notice what I am doing. As someone above described, as my right arm starts it's recovery, rather than turn my head to the side to breathe, I quickly peek forward and then turn my head to the side to grab a breath. Then I will typically take 4 - 6 normal strokes, breathing as required and then repeat the little peek. If I don't see my target properly during the peek, I just repeat it on the next stroke until I'm happy with my aim. I can do this without disrupting the flow of my stroke and it keeps me fairly well on target - at least until I get tired, at which point I find I am drifting left every time I sight but that's just my lazy left arm... X2 - Easiest way to sight without disrupting your rythym. Just a quick peak ahead to make sure you're not going in circles, then roll the head to the right/left for a quick breath and you're back in your groove for the next 4-5 strokes. |
2009-08-13 10:02 AM in reply to: #2345900 |
Extreme Veteran 318 Lunenburg, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: Sighting I definitely mess up my rhythm when I sight... hopefully some of these tips will help. |
2009-08-13 10:56 AM in reply to: #2345900 |
Payson, AZ | Subject: RE: Sighting I sight every 6 strokes. I breath every two so I am sighting every second breath. I actually find it easier to do in an OWS but that could be due to always being in a wetsuit so I don't ever sink when I lift my head. I have the hardest time timing it in the pool for some reason. But, sighting that often has saved me a lot of extra swimming. I just slightly lift my head so that my eyes are out of the water to do a quick glance as I start my rotation to the side to breath. Edited by bzgl40 2009-08-13 10:57 AM |
2009-08-13 11:18 AM in reply to: #2345900 |
Master 2802 Minnetonka, Minnesota | Subject: RE: Sighting I plan on every 10 strokes, but adapt as needed depending on jostling , chop/waves/current, buoy visibility and sun glare, etc. I try to do as mentioned and incorporate it into a breath with just a quick lift/turn of the head to see straight ahead. |
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2009-08-13 1:05 PM in reply to: #2345900 |
Regular 187 Barrie, Ontario, Canada | Subject: RE: Sighting I am not a very experienced swimmer and am still experimenting but on my last OWS I sighted every 6 strokes. I breath every 3 stokes on alternate sides. I sight by taking a quick glance ahead when I breath on the side where the buoys are. It seemed to work very well. |
2009-08-13 4:54 PM in reply to: #2345900 |
Veteran 207 Sun Prairie, WI | Subject: RE: Sighting I sight every 10 strokes, seems to work well for me but as others have said - I adapt this to the conditions. If its rougher waters or I'm nearing a turn I will sight more often. Seems that everyone has their own little variation on sighting so figure out what works best for you! |
2009-08-13 5:03 PM in reply to: #2347272 |
Champion 10018 , Minnesota | Subject: RE: Sighting I have to sight every other time I breathe, at least. And I still end up off... One thing you can practice is swimming in the pool with your eyes closed. Only open your eyes when you plan to sight. If you're still on track you have a gift of straight swimming. I assure you that sighting will swimming, even every time you breathe, is something you can learn to do well. Watch the pros race - they sight a lot. |
2009-08-13 6:52 PM in reply to: #2345900 |
Master 2460 | Subject: RE: Sighting One thing I will say caused me a LOT of grief (unexpectedly) in my last triathlon: I forgot to clean my goggles, and they were the type that fog up quickly as well (Aquasphere Kaimans that have lenses right near your eyeball. At least for me they fog quickly.) I forgot to put the antifog on, and they're also metallized/tinted, so it was even harder to see on a cloudy morning. It made it SO much harder to sight a buoy amongst hundreds of caps. I wasted tremendous amounts of time and energy looking for the correct route since everyone was all over the ocean already. I've since found it can make a huge difference to go in with clean, antifogged goggles. When you're only catching a glimpse of your target with every 4-6 breaths, you don't want anything obstructing your view. I now use clear nontinted goggles for morning OW swims, and I feel that it's helped. Edited by agarose2000 2009-08-13 6:52 PM |