Post Wreck re-fit. Help!
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2009-08-29 10:20 AM |
Champion 7136 Knoxville area | Subject: Post Wreck re-fit. Help! So both me and the bike are out of the hospital and back on the trainer. Me with a bit more metal, the bike with some new aerobars. Sadly after the wreck, my position was adjusted by the wrench... so now, I'm sure, my position sucks. Any chance you fit guru's out there can give me a hand with this mess? forgive my slubbishness... haven't felt like doing much lately |
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2009-08-30 1:20 AM in reply to: #2377865 |
Champion 7136 Knoxville area | Subject: RE: Post Wreck re-fit. Help! really, no "seat is to high" or nothing |
2009-08-30 3:39 AM in reply to: #2377865 |
Extreme Veteran 313 | Subject: RE: Post Wreck re-fit. Help! No expert here but you look a bit cramped up and quite upright, you could look a bit more aerodynamic. Do you do all your rides with a bandana? Does it keep the sweat out of your eyes? I use a headband with mixed success. |
2009-08-30 4:28 AM in reply to: #2377865 |
Pro 5892 , New Hampshire | Subject: RE: Post Wreck re-fit. Help! It doesn't look bad at all. A few pointers, but nothing major: Your hands are slightly below level with your elbows, you should raise this to level or slightly above. You're a bit tall on the front and could probably get a bit lower. This would require you to get a longer stem though, you're boarderline too cramped up now. What ever you do, keep that saddle in the same position. It looks near perfect (judging from the photos, which is a bit tricky...) |
2009-08-30 2:12 PM in reply to: #2378553 |
Champion 7136 Knoxville area | Subject: RE: Post Wreck re-fit. Help! ENP - 2009-08-30 4:39 AM No expert here but you look a bit cramped up and quite upright, you could look a bit more aerodynamic. Do you do all your rides with a bandana? Does it keep the sweat out of your eyes? I use a headband with mixed success. I wear it mainly to keep my hair out of my eyes as opposed to sweat. But it helps. So a longer stem? Possibly drop the aerobars under the base bar? |
2009-08-31 1:06 AM in reply to: #2377865 |
Pro 5892 , New Hampshire | Subject: RE: Post Wreck re-fit. Help! I don't think you can put the aerobars under the base bar unless you do some extensive modifications to the clamping. Wouldn't recommend it. But looking at your picture, you either have a couple of spacers under your stem or a spacer and a tall cone spacer; you can remove those to get lower. You I also think that if you do that, you will suffer if you're not elongated as well (too cramped up). |
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2009-08-31 1:17 AM in reply to: #2377865 |
Champion 6627 Rochester Hills, Michigan | Subject: RE: Post Wreck re-fit. Help! First, the overall position isn't bad, other than your frame is too small...you could deal with another 2cm of top tube. Seat height is right (or close), and you could ride it and be fine. If you're looking to tweak, read on.... I'll just ask a couple questions...first, looks like you're riding at about 85deg straight up. There's not much slack in that seat tube angle. You're so far forward the elbows barely get on the pads. Was that by design? Second, by being that far forward, it closes up your hip and arm angle. To Jan's point, you need a much longer stem to accomodate that in the textbook setup. But again, don't know how you make power....lots of really good cyclists, incl lance, make great power without the textbook 90 degrees at hip and shoulder. That's your call. |
2009-08-31 8:42 AM in reply to: #2379702 |
Champion 7136 Knoxville area | Subject: RE: Post Wreck re-fit. Help! audiojan - 2009-08-31 2:06 AM I don't think you can put the aerobars under the base bar unless you do some extensive modifications to the clamping. Wouldn't recommend it. But looking at your picture, you either have a couple of spacers under your stem or a spacer and a tall cone spacer; you can remove those to get lower. You I also think that if you do that, you will suffer if you're not elongated as well (too cramped up). As to dropping the Aerobars, I was thinking about this. I've got an extra set of Carbon Stryke's (on my roommates bike at the moment) which clamp underneath. I would assume they would work with the T2Cobra's I've got currently, not 100% though. I do have some spacers to raise it in the front atm, as I haven't been able to ride aero in over a month, I need a little more stability for a few days. But you are saying if I did drop the spacers that I would need a bit longer stem right? rkreuser - 2009-08-31 2:17 AM First, the overall position isn't bad, other than your frame is too small...you could deal with another 2cm of top tube. Seat height is right (or close), and you could ride it and be fine. If you're looking to tweak, read on.... I'll just ask a couple questions...first, looks like you're riding at about 85deg straight up. There's not much slack in that seat tube angle. You're so far forward the elbows barely get on the pads. Was that by design? Second, by being that far forward, it closes up your hip and arm angle. To Jan's point, you need a much longer stem to accomodate that in the textbook setup. But again, don't know how you make power....lots of really good cyclists, incl lance, make great power without the textbook 90 degrees at hip and shoulder. That's your call. (*disclaimer* I have gotten good enough to fix moderate/minor stuff /play with my bike for the most part, but I'm still no whiz on fitting or wrenching my bike) I'll be honest I wasn't exactly TRYING to get that steep on the seat tube, I've not been able to ride (even on the trainer) after the wreck, so I've had infinite amounts of time to do my own "mechanic'ing" on it... this was where I came up feeling *pretty* comfortable (besides my elbows) So it wasn't exactly by concious design. I rode for a bit (20 min or so is all my shoulder could take) yesterday on it as it sits in the picture, and I was avg. about 17mph at 95-105rpm, and minus my shoulder I feel as if I could have kept it up pretty easy. That is, however, about 4mph down from what I *was* averaging on it 2 months ago (although this could just as easily be the losses from being inactive those two months.) I am pushing a bit closer to 20mph on my road bike at similar rpm (54in CR1... the Felt is a 56) if that is in any ways useful. Thanks guys, I'm indebted |
2009-08-31 9:47 AM in reply to: #2377865 |
Master 2277 Lake Norman, NC | Subject: RE: Post Wreck re-fit. Help! A little tough to tell without your front wheel on a block. Your bike itself isn't level. I feel like I have to tilt my head to try and get an accurate view. Or do you just like always riding downhill? |
2009-08-31 9:55 AM in reply to: #2380146 |
Champion 7136 Knoxville area | Subject: RE: Post Wreck re-fit. Help! Bigfuzzydoug - 2009-08-31 10:47 AM A little tough to tell without your front wheel on a block. Your bike itself isn't level. I feel like I have to tilt my head to try and get an accurate view. Or do you just like always riding downhill? haha that would make it easier. No I just threw the bike on the trainer and took the picture without thinking. I'll put my trainer block under and take another picture as soon as I can snatch my roommate's camera again. |
2009-08-31 9:40 PM in reply to: #2377865 |
Champion 7136 Knoxville area | Subject: RE: Post Wreck re-fit. Help! Ok, so I'm on an 80mm stem at the moment... up to a 100? or more/less? |
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2009-09-01 11:16 AM in reply to: #2381665 |
Pro 5892 , New Hampshire | Subject: RE: Post Wreck re-fit. Help! That's not an easy question to answer... Looking at your initial picture, I would guess a 100mm, but it may be as much as 110 (or even that you can be put in a good position with the 80mm, but I kind of doubt that...). Start off with removing a spacer and then see what that feels like. If that's ok, get a longer stem. First rule of trying to fit yourself, is never change more than one thing at a time. If it works, then you know why, if it doesn't, well, you know as well... if you change two things all you know is that it did or didn't work, but not which one or both of the changes... |