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 2009-09-04 12:58 PM |
 Subject: Bryancd, you better read this......Herbert posted this somewhere else, you've probably seen it... is it April 1??? "Ironman and Ironman 70.3 races is mandatory and marking an athlete’s age group on the calf is part of that process. Athletes competing in our events rely on age group markings on calves to identify their competition. Ironman has been receiving an increasing number of complaints that compression socks and calf guards hide age group identification. At Hawaii 70.3 in June, Ironman experimented with eliminating age group calf markings on all athletes. This attempt at resolving the issue was met by even more complaints by the athletes. Therefore, beginning with the 2009 Ford Ironman World Championship, garments that cover age group calf markings will not be permitted. Ironman’s goal is to design (and my job is to enforce) rules that provide the most level playing field possible. Sincerely, Jimmy Riccitello" |
| 2009-09-04 1:49 PM in reply to: #2389978 |
Champion  10154    Alabama | Subject: RE: Bryancd, you better read this...... ChrisM - 2009-09-04 12:58 PM Herbert posted this somewhere else, you've probably seen it... is it April 1??? "Ironman and Ironman 70.3 races is mandatory and marking an athlete’s age group on the calf is part of that process. Athletes competing in our events rely on age group markings on calves to identify their competition. Ironman has been receiving an increasing number of complaints that compression socks and calf guards hide age group identification. At Hawaii 70.3 in June, Ironman experimented with eliminating age group calf markings on all athletes. This attempt at resolving the issue was met by even more complaints by the athletes. Therefore, beginning with the 2009 Ford Ironman World Championship, garments that cover age group calf markings will not be permitted. Ironman’s goal is to design (and my job is to enforce) rules that provide the most level playing field possible. Sincerely, Jimmy Riccitello"
Hmmph. I wonder if you can write your AG on the socks?
~Mike |
| 2009-09-04 2:13 PM in reply to: #2389978 |
| Regular 136 | Subject: RE: Bryancd, you better read this...... Wow, I have a problem with this. I have a medical condition that REQUIRES me to wear a compression stocking on my right leg/calf. I HATE that I have to wear this BUT I could NOT compete without this due to the amount of swelling over a long IM race. I am a BOP (IMOO in 2008 finished in 16:22:29) that most would not be concerned about me. My compression stockings are a tan. Although they are expensive (and my stockings have more compression than the new "trendy" ones) I would be willing to have my number written on this stocking. I assume this would be acceptable. Is this a correct assumption? |
| 2009-09-04 3:49 PM in reply to: #2389978 |
Pro 4675  Wisconsin near the Twin Cities metro | Subject: RE: Bryancd, you better read this...... I just figured out how to make my next $million...race belts for legs so you can wear your age group division number mini-bib on your calf over a compression sock... |
| 2009-09-04 3:52 PM in reply to: #2390403 |
Champion 8540 the colony texas | Subject: RE: Bryancd, you better read this...... Birkierunner - 2009-09-04 3:49 PM I just figured out how to make my next $million...race belts for legs so you can wear your age group division number mini-bib on your calf over a compression sock... crap... you beat me to the patent office  |
| 2009-09-04 4:05 PM in reply to: #2389978 |
Champion 7595 Columbia, South Carolina | Subject: RE: Bryancd, you better read this...... There's such a thing as washable markers. |
| 2009-09-04 5:29 PM in reply to: #2389978 |
Champion 5781 Northridge, California | Subject: RE: Bryancd, you better read this...... Meh. I guess you wrap some white athletic tape around the sock and write on that. |
| 2009-09-07 6:42 PM in reply to: #2390125 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Bryancd, you better read this...... Rogillio - 2009-09-04 1:49 PM ChrisM - 2009-09-04 12:58 PM Herbert posted this somewhere else, you've probably seen it... is it April 1??? "Ironman and Ironman 70.3 races is mandatory and marking an athlete’s age group on the calf is part of that process. Athletes competing in our events rely on age group markings on calves to identify their competition. Ironman has been receiving an increasing number of complaints that compression socks and calf guards hide age group identification. At Hawaii 70.3 in June, Ironman experimented with eliminating age group calf markings on all athletes. This attempt at resolving the issue was met by even more complaints by the athletes. Therefore, beginning with the 2009 Ford Ironman World Championship, garments that cover age group calf markings will not be permitted. Ironman’s goal is to design (and my job is to enforce) rules that provide the most level playing field possible. Sincerely, Jimmy Riccitello"
Hmmph. I wonder if you can write your AG on the socks?
~Mike Nope. |
| 2009-09-07 7:24 PM in reply to: #2389978 |
Pro 4828 The Land of Ice and Snow | Subject: RE: Bryancd, you better read this...... Boo Hiss. |
| 2009-09-07 9:23 PM in reply to: #2389978 |
Master 1978 Chelmsford, Massachusetts | Subject: RE: Bryancd, you better read this...... Yeah. That sucks. |
| 2009-09-07 10:07 PM in reply to: #2389978 |
Elite 2791 Denver | Subject: RE: Bryancd, you better read this...... Another reason for me to not do MDot. |
| 2009-09-07 10:16 PM in reply to: #2389978 |
| Subject: RE: Bryancd, you better read this...... There are some people that need to use compression when runnign for medical reasons (i.e. previous DVT). Wonder if there will be an exemption? Maybe an ADA lawsuit for not providing an accomodation |
| 2009-09-08 11:21 AM in reply to: #2393934 |
| Veteran 371 | Subject: RE: Bryancd, you better read this...... How about contacting the race director and requesting an exemption? Asthmatics can get a medical exemption to use their inhalers. I'm betting if you simply explain your circumstances, they might be willing to grant you an exemption. |
| 2009-09-08 11:38 AM in reply to: #2389978 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Bryancd, you better read this...... I actually don't care too much either way. I do like training and recovering in the compression socks but wouldn't race in them as they are such pain to get on. I do like the calf sleeves as well, but again, I could take them or leave them for a race. What I find remarkable about this ruling is it's a major blow to the clothing manufacturers and i am suprised WTC would make such an odd ruling that is so detrimental to something which has been marketed so aggressively by companies like ZOOT. I'm just not seeing how this rule is really needed. |
| 2009-09-08 3:40 PM in reply to: #2389978 |
Expert 1207 Liberty Lake, WA | Subject: RE: Bryancd, you better read this...... It's not just compresson socks. What about cold and wet races (IMCDA this year), I've seen some people wearing pants / tights. Is the rule now wear shorts and freeze or don't race at all? What about suntan lotion? Right after body marking I put a heavy layer of lotion on, and then again in T1. The water proof stuff tends to rub out the body marking ink. Do I now need to just burn? |
| 2009-09-08 3:42 PM in reply to: #2395296 |
Champion 19812 MA | Subject: RE: Bryancd, you better read this...... T in Liberty Lake - 2009-09-08 4:40 PM It's not just compresson socks. What about cold and wet races (IMCDA this year), I've seen some people wearing pants / tights. Is the rule now wear shorts and freeze or don't race at all? What about suntan lotion? Right after body marking I put a heavy layer of lotion on, and then again in T1. The water proof stuff tends to rub out the body marking ink. Do I now need to just burn? I've seen folks removing their age on their calves after body marking so others can't see it. What about super hairy men, that it is impossible to write on their skin? I've attempted to body mark a few guys like that in the past. I understand the idea but there are plenty of other ways folks can't read or see your age other than compression socks. |
| 2009-09-08 7:44 PM in reply to: #2395296 |
Master 1222 Lafayette, IN | Subject: RE: Bryancd, you better read this...... T in Liberty Lake - 2009-09-08 3:40 PM It's not just compresson socks. What about cold and wet races (IMCDA this year), I've seen some people wearing pants / tights. Is the rule now wear shorts and freeze or don't race at all? What about suntan lotion? Right after body marking I put a heavy layer of lotion on, and then again in T1. The water proof stuff tends to rub out the body marking ink. Do I now need to just burn? Good point. |
| 2009-09-09 12:49 PM in reply to: #2394720 |
Champion 10471 Dallas, TX | Subject: RE: Bryancd, you better read this...... bryancd - 2009-09-08 11:38 AM I actually don't care too much either way. I do like training and recovering in the compression socks but wouldn't race in them as they are such pain to get on. I do like the calf sleeves as well, but again, I could take them or leave them for a race. What I find remarkable about this ruling is it's a major blow to the clothing manufacturers and i am suprised WTC would make such an odd ruling that is so detrimental to something which has been marketed so aggressively by companies like ZOOT. I'm just not seeing how this rule is really needed. I would say if an age could be written somewhere else on the back of the leg... then the socks should stay. What if it were written near the bend in the knee, or on the hamstring (if the shorts were not too long). ??? Otherwise, I think it's BS when the athlete can cover up their age. |
| 2009-09-09 6:19 PM in reply to: #2389978 |
Elite 2645 Phoenix, AZ | Subject: RE: Bryancd, you better read this...... I want ages on calves in all life situations: night clubs, umm... basically just bars. |
| 2009-09-10 7:53 PM in reply to: #2389978 |
Extreme Veteran 543 South Orange | Subject: RE: Bryancd, you better read this...... According to an article on slowtwitch - they reversed the ban today http://www.slowtwitch.com/News/Compression_sock_ban_reversed_1009.html |
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