Will Smith's Power data from IMWI

Maine Rob - 2009-09-22 4:58 PM

Ok, am I the only one who saw this and thought "wow, I wonder how he had time to do IMWI while making all those movies?"

x2 LOL 

running2far - 2009-09-22 7:56 PM Here is my Imoo for comparison, I was slower first half: Duration: 2:52:05 Work: 1658 kJ TSS: 134.5 (intensity factor 0.685) Norm Power: 169 VI: 1.05 Pw:HR: n/a Pa:HR: n/a Distance: 56.206 mi seconhalf: Duration: 3:06:36 Work: 1726 kJ TSS: 139.4 (intensity factor 0.67) Norm Power: 165 VI: 1.07 Pw:HR: n/a Pa:HR: n/a Distance: 57.143 mi My Pt read 113 miles and I was pretty steady throughout the day. The wind was picking up later in the day which slowed us down. I didn't quite find the first and second half point but close enough I also stopped riding aero for the last 9 miles as I was ready to be DONE with the bike.

newbz - 2009-09-22 7:56 PM a few things to note here: his ave power in the first bit is going to be higher with the flatter ground in the first part. hills often lower ave power unless those numbers are set to take out zeros. he is racing other people, and making choices off of what they are doing, and not simply just watching his numbers (or so its sounds from the article). 220, man that would hurt. i am 152 and held 210 for my last half, 10 more for an IM would leave my crippled.

Maine Rob - 2009-09-22 5:58 PM

Ok, am I the only one who saw this and thought "wow, I wonder how he had time to do IMWI while making all those movies?"

the bear - 2009-09-22 8:14 PM The Fresh Prince does IMs?

running2far - 2009-09-23 11:10 AM

IMO, a lot of wasted effort in his ride. The power drop offs would indicate a he rode way to hard in the first half of the race. From a tactical standpoint, riding hard in the first half did not provide any benefit. The chase group caughts him and he dug himself a whole by riding harder.

nickwhite - 2009-09-23 9:04 AM

newbz, I think the normalized power numbers "normalize" this - meaning it doesn't matter if zeros are there or not. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

newbz - 2009-09-23 10:49 AM

what do the hills look like there, and maybe he has it set of include zeros (cant you change that on a PT?) that would deff draw the ave power down a lot. i know my SRM does include them, and it shows ave power WAY lower than if you take them out.

gsmacleod - 2009-09-23 9:27 AM

I would hesitate to make any analysis based on this as the way an AGer and pro are going to approach the ride in IM are going to be very different, especially if the rider is with a pack at any point.  Even at 10m, there is a benefit to riding behind another rider (or even better, a line of riders).

For an AGer, you want to get on the bike and ride easy from the get go; easy, easy, easy is the key to the bike and keeping your power levels in check whether you are on the flat, riding into a headwind or climbing is going to be key to a successful ride.  If someone blasts by you, then you let them go as you don't want to compromise your race just to get to T2 with the other rider.

For a pro, if a rider blasts by, you need to assess and decide whether or not to go with them and legally draft each other.  If you are off the front, you need to decide if you can keep the pace and stay away or if you will be better off waiting for the group and taking advantage of the legal draft from the pack.  Then you will have lots of variability in your power depending on if you are sitting at the back or pulling at the front (or try to go off the front again).

While I think there are some areas where race tactics could have been improved, I would not worry too much about his VI or power drop-off based on his description of the race.

Shane

JohnnyKay - 2009-09-23 9:34 AM



Why would that help? His average power should include zeros. If he's coasting, that still "counts" in how hard (and how variable) he's riding.

newbz - 2009-09-23 11:39 AM maybe i missunder stood something (in which case this is good and i am learning!). if your PM does not include zeros, you only have the numbers from power output, if it does, anytime you are coasting its going to be lowering your ave power, correct?