Power Meter or HRM: More Effective?
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2009-09-28 10:23 AM |
Expert 1164 Roswell, GA | Subject: Power Meter or HRM: More Effective? Hey guys Just wondering what the general consensus was about training with power vs a HRM. I am looking to get either one soon to begin my IM training for next year, and wanted some more information on what will give me more accurate results. In other words, will I see a larger improvement in my training from using a HRM or through a power meter. So guys, what say you? |
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2009-09-28 10:25 AM in reply to: #2429581 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Power Meter or HRM: More Effective? Oooooo, this should be good! |
2009-09-28 10:26 AM in reply to: #2429581 |
over a barrier | Subject: RE: Power Meter or HRM: More Effective? Assuming the barrier to entry ($$$$$) doesn't bother you....POWER METER. If you learn to use the device its hands down the best tool in the training toolbox. Additionaly, it will take a lot of the mystery out of Ironman racing. You'll have a better chance of success with a PM. Learning how to use it is VERY important though. |
2009-09-28 10:30 AM in reply to: #2429585 |
Expert 1164 Roswell, GA | Subject: RE: Power Meter or HRM: More Effective? bryancd - 2009-09-28 11:25 AM Oooooo, this should be good! haha, was it something I said? Guess I picked a touchy topic running2far - 2009-09-28 11:26 AM Assuming the barrier to entry ($$$$$) doesn't bother you....POWER METER. If you learn to use the device its hands down the best tool in the training toolbox. Additionaly, it will take a lot of the mystery out of Ironman racing. You'll have a better chance of success with a PM. Learning how to use it is VERY important though. Well, price as of now is a barrier to entry, which is one reason why I was considering a HRM as a solid alternative. Also, I can only train with power on the bike (unless I am mistaken), which leaves me to ask about run training..... |
2009-09-28 10:33 AM in reply to: #2429593 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Power Meter or HRM: More Effective? running2far - 2009-09-28 10:26 AM You'll have a better chance of success with a PM. Like I said, there will be a lot of hyperbole! The most effective will be the one you use properly, train, and race with consistantly, regardless. |
2009-09-28 10:38 AM in reply to: #2429581 |
Master 1472 | Subject: RE: Power Meter or HRM: More Effective? With cost being a factor and that you can only use PM on the bike, it seems to me the best tool **for you** would be a HRM. Maybe look into an upper end unit that has some bike functionality as well such as cadence, etc. If cost were not a factor and you were looking for a bike only training tool a PM is probably the most effective. |
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2009-09-28 10:39 AM in reply to: #2429603 |
Expert 1394 Wilmington, NC | Subject: RE: Power Meter or HRM: More Effective? Daimyer - 2009-09-28 11:30 AM bryancd - 2009-09-28 11:25 AM Oooooo, this should be good! haha, was it something I said? Guess I picked a touchy topic running2far - 2009-09-28 11:26 AM Assuming the barrier to entry ($$$$$) doesn't bother you....POWER METER. If you learn to use the device its hands down the best tool in the training toolbox. Additionaly, it will take a lot of the mystery out of Ironman racing. You'll have a better chance of success with a PM. Learning how to use it is VERY important though. Well, price as of now is a barrier to entry, which is one reason why I was considering a HRM as a solid alternative. Also, I can only train with power on the bike (unless I am mistaken), which leaves me to ask about run training.....Not really anything you said, but Bryan get some pretty crazy results and he trains with a HRM and not a powermeter. I would guess most will say and I would personally say the powermeter will be more effective. As Bryan pointed out no matter what you choose you need to learn how to use it properly to make it an effective training tool. |
2009-09-28 10:48 AM in reply to: #2429581 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: Power Meter or HRM: More Effective? Daimyer - 2009-09-28 10:23 AM Hey guys Just wondering what the general consensus was about training with power vs a HRM. I am looking to get either one soon to begin my IM training for next year, and wanted some more information on what will give me more accurate results. In other words, will I see a larger improvement in my training from using a HRM or through a power meter. So guys, what say you? both are fine tools if you know how to properly apply the information collected for your training. That been said, a power meter offers you a more objective tool to gauge and quantify training adaptations, and offers more reliable/relevant information as it can help you to quanitfy strain in your working muscles which is what we are the most concerned about. A HRM on the other hand only provides cardiovascular strain and that can be affected by variables no directly relevant to the work done in your muscles. A power meter just offers you much more relevant information that can be used to set up training goals, track improvements, predict performance, develop pacing strategies, fueling needs, get in tune with your RPE, etc. The limiters about the PM is price, you can only use it for cycling and you have to either learn how to use it ot have someone who does. (If you add a GPS/pedometer to your arsenal it is like training with power for running.) A HRM can be used for both cycling and running and it is much more affordable. In the end neither will help unless you do the training, both are just data collectors than can help you do better training desicions and manage your load. |
2009-09-28 10:49 AM in reply to: #2429620 |
Cycling Guru 15134 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: Power Meter or HRM: More Effective? bryancd - 2009-09-28 11:33 AM The most effective will be the one you use properly, train, and race with consistantly, regardless. That is the real answer ^^^^^. Everything else is opinion. With that said ...... ........ a PM doesn't lie. Your HR can vary by as simple a thing as waking up on the wrong side of the bed and being late to work. Or in my case, when I take my heart medication. Unfortunately there is no such thing as a PM for running or swimming which means it is only effective during one portion of the sport in which we are participating. |
2009-09-28 10:52 AM in reply to: #2429637 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Power Meter or HRM: More Effective? qrkid - 2009-09-28 10:39 AM Not really anything you said, but Bryan get some pretty crazy results and he trains with a HRM and not a powermeter I appreciate that, but I would never say my results are proof that training with a HR monitor is superior to other training tools. I prefer HR for the simply because it's what I have always used, my coach and I can discuss my training using HR as a basis for effort, and it's all I need to train and race. K.I.S.S. |
2009-09-28 11:30 AM in reply to: #2429581 |
Expert 1164 Roswell, GA | Subject: RE: Power Meter or HRM: More Effective? thanks for the info guys. Because I cant afford a $3000 power meter at the time being, I think I will go with the HRM. Though it seems like it is a better choice to train with power, I will have to save that one for later since the HRM is a little more versatile. |
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2009-09-28 1:01 PM in reply to: #2429753 |
Elite 3315 Miami | Subject: RE: Power Meter or HRM: More Effective? Daimyer - 2009-09-28 11:30 AM thanks for the info guys. Because I cant afford a $3000 power meter at the time being, I think I will go with the HRM. Though it seems like it is a better choice to train with power, I will have to save that one for later since the HRM is a little more versatile. PM is cheaper then $3k. they can be had for $700....but compared to a HRM for <$200 yes it is much more. |
2009-09-28 1:06 PM in reply to: #2429753 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: Power Meter or HRM: More Effective? Daimyer - 2009-09-28 11:30 AM thanks for the info guys. Because I cant afford a $3000 power meter at the time being, I think I will go with the HRM. Though it seems like it is a better choice to train with power, I will have to save that one for later since the HRM is a little more versatile. SRM is not the only option, you can get a wired power tap for $650.00 including wheel: http://www.competitivecyclist.com/road-bikes/product-accessories/2009-cycleops-power-tap-compdt-rr-1.1-complete-wheel-5905.44.1.html |