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2010-01-26 5:11 PM

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Subject: Sales commission vs draw
I have been asked to go to a draw based system. Loosing 25% of my base pay sucks. If I leave before the draw is paid back do I owe the draw to the company.

There is no documentation set up yet. This goes into effect Jan pay that is due end of month. yes I know its 3 day away.


2010-01-26 6:04 PM
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Subject: RE: Sales commission vs draw
In most cases you would owe the draw back to the company.

I have seen it a couple places that they never went after people for the draw if they left on good terms however.
2010-01-26 6:52 PM
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Subject: RE: Sales commission vs draw
In the sales management positions I've held, we never went after former employees for their draw. A good sales manager will be minimizing the companies exposure while maximizing the sales persons earning potential.

Ideally the sales person will be "banking" enough commission to pay their own draw.

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2010-01-26 7:30 PM
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Subject: RE: Sales commission vs draw
We have a draw system @ my company.  Usually the overage paid to the company is charged against any bonus that is due you.  But we haven't seen anyone go after a past employee....
2010-01-26 9:35 PM
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I worked on draw vs. commission for 3 years.  My productivity was high enough that I only went on draw once.  It's a hard pit to crawl out from when you get stuck though.  Is this a retail job?  You should be able to calculate out how much a week you need to sell in order to make above draw.  You don't owe the company anything unless you don't sell enough and are always making draw- because then the next week you have to sell double the normal amount to pay back the draw from the week before.

Commission makes associates more productive.  It's a self correcting problem for a non-motivated sales force.

Uncle Sam says you MUST be payed a min wage so no, if you leave the company they can't go after you for that money.

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2010-01-27 6:10 AM
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Subject: RE: Sales commission vs draw
Its not a retail sales job, its capital equipment. My biggest issue is the change in structure, I am being forced to take a 25% reduction in base pay, my living expenses didn't change but now I have to budget for that reduction. I work in a different city than my family lives so I am in effect supporting two households.

I have a few things working so we will see.

Thanks for the replys


2010-01-27 2:32 PM
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Subject: RE: Sales commission vs draw
What is a draw?  Sounds like you paying a company to work for them until you met some minimum sales point in which you can finally make any money. IS that about right?
2010-01-28 6:07 AM
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Subject: RE: Sales commission vs draw
chirunner134 - 2010-01-27 2:32 PM

What is a draw?  Sounds like you paying a company to work for them until you met some minimum sales point in which you can finally make any money. IS that about right?


In my case I have a base salary of X, now I am going to a base salary of X-25%=Y So the difference in base (x) and (Y) is (Z). That difference is being paid to me as a draw against future sales.

If I leave the company the verbal but not written statement is I would have to pay that back.

however I received a new job offer that is more base (than the original base of X), allows me to work at home vs 2 hours away, and gives me a company car. So I don't think this will be an issue.
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