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Photo Mike - 2010-05-05 11:29 AM

Put yourself in a situation like they do on "Biggest Loser" and I think it's very doable, but not for anyone that has a normal life.


The former biggest loser did DNF Kona....


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Triceratops - 2010-05-05 6:38 AM I can't seem to find it now, but I'm sure I saw a training programme or advert somewhere on the internet that said 'From couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks'. Please tell me that is absurd...


Honestly, I think that you just misread or misremembered it.

It is absurd, though not completely impossible.

I did a quick google search and found nothing that resembled that time frame. 


Absurd is in the eye of the beholder.  To many people, the idea of a 140.6 mile race is, in an of itself, absurd.

I have no problem with the length of the race....but for someone to do it in 9 hrs....now that is absurd!


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2010-05-05 3:45 PM
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I think it it depends (as stated earlier) on coach potato.  I have done about 10 tri's in 2008 & 2009, 8 sprints, 1 Oly and 1 HIM.  I was not really trained for either the Oly or the HIM but completed both in 3:06 and 6:35, respectively.  I was about 240lbs at the time of both races.  I had shoulder surgery last August from a college baseball worn down shoulder and from that surgery, I developed 6 blood clots - 2 in my calf and 4 in my lungs.  Spent the next 4 days in Pulmonary ICU and next 7 months on blood thinners.   Was also diagnosed with sleeep apnea in December.  Sleep has been a big issue and is still not resolved.  My wife gave birth to our son in Jan. at 26 weeks and he passed in 7 days, just 15 weeks ago, so it has been a rough year, to say the least. 

I was planning on doing a few sprints and maybe an Oly or two in 2010, as my head was not into Tri's much due to my health and our's son's passing.  I then found out on 4.15.10 that my name was on the Kona Lottery list.  So much for easing back into things.  Clots are now all gone and weight is down to 218lbs.  I have about 5 months to get ready for thsi epic 140.6 as I have truly been "on the couch" for 8 months angry about my health and then my son.  I look forward to the race in Kona and will either finish or they will carry me off on a stretcher.  I do not worry about cut-offs as much as I do proper pacing.  I always seem to push harder than I should, which has led to cramping in my HIM.  I also completed a trail marathon and DNF'd after trying a 50k.  Cramped bad in both.  Bad idea to try the 50k on limited training.

Either way, I may be a good testiment as to whether it is possible.  I do plan to train 6 days a week but doubt I will do two a days if it is not the weekend.  Will see how it goes.  Feel blessed to have been selected.  Did an interview on Sirius Satellite last week and talked about the upcoming training a bit.

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2010-05-05 4:02 PM
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MultisportMinistries - 2010-05-05 3:45 PM

I think it it depends (as stated earlier) on coach potato.  I have done about 10 tri's in 2008 & 2009, 8 sprints, 1 Oly and 1 HIM.  I was not really trained for either the Oly or the HIM but completed both in 3:06 and 6:35, respectively.  I was about 240lbs at the time of both races.  I had shoulder surgery last August from a college baseball worn down shoulder and from that surgery, I developed 6 blood clots - 2 in my calf and 4 in my lungs.  Spent the next 4 days in Pulmonary ICU and next 7 months on blood thinners.   Was also diagnosed with sleeep apnea in December.  Sleep has been a big issue and is still not resolved.  My wife gave birth to our son in Jan. at 26 weeks and he passed in 7 days, just 15 weeks ago, so it has been a rough year, to say the least. 

I was planning on doing a few sprints and maybe an Oly or two in 2010, as my head was not into Tri's much due to my health and our's son's passing.  I then found out on 4.15.10 that my name was on the Kona Lottery list.  So much for easing back into things.  Clots are now all gone and weight is down to 218lbs.  I have about 5 months to get ready for thsi epic 140.6 as I have truly been "on the couch" for 8 months angry about my health and then my son.  I look forward to the race in Kona and will either finish or they will carry me off on a stretcher.  I do not worry about cut-offs as much as I do proper pacing.  I always seem to push harder than I should, which has led to cramping in my HIM.  I also completed a trail marathon and DNF'd after trying a 50k.  Cramped bad in both.  Bad idea to try the 50k on limited training.

Either way, I may be a good testiment as to whether it is possible.  I do plan to train 6 days a week but doubt I will do two a days if it is not the weekend.  Will see how it goes.  Feel blessed to have been selected.  Did an interview on Sirius Satellite last week and talked about the upcoming training a bit.

Brian



I wish you the best of luck in your prep for Kona.  It looks like "rough year" would be an understatement for you!  I look forward to reading your race report about the journey and the race. 
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Subject: RE: Couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks? yeah right...
Gaarryy - 2010-05-05 3:30 PM
Rogillio - 2010-05-05 3:09 PM
mrcurtain - 2010-05-05 2:15 PM
Triceratops - 2010-05-05 6:38 AM I can't seem to find it now, but I'm sure I saw a training programme or advert somewhere on the internet that said 'From couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks'. Please tell me that is absurd...


Honestly, I think that you just misread or misremembered it.

It is absurd, though not completely impossible.

I did a quick google search and found nothing that resembled that time frame. 


Absurd is in the eye of the beholder.  To many people, the idea of a 140.6 mile race is, in an of itself, absurd.

I have no problem with the length of the race....but for someone to do it in 9 hrs....now that is absurd!


~Mike



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2010-05-05 4:03 PM
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I'm not sure you guys are aware of what the average American couch potato looks like these days.

I still say no.  Taking someone from the couch, and building a safe base (10% rule) takes about 10 weeks alone, you have the other 20 weeks for training and it seems doable but this person is going to be doing their first century, 16 mile run, 2 mile swim, during that period when the muscles and tendons just aren't strong enough to handle the load.  

I'll put it like this; you get 30 random people to do this and about 15 will complete it.   


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furiousferret - 2010-05-05 4:03 PM I'm not sure you guys are aware of what the average American couch potato looks like these days.

I still say no.  Taking someone from the couch, and building a safe base (10% rule) takes about 10 weeks alone, you have the other 20 weeks for training and it seems doable but this person is going to be doing their first century, 16 mile run, 2 mile swim, during that period when the muscles and tendons just aren't strong enough to handle the load.  

I'll put it like this; you get 30 random people to do this and about 15 will complete it.   


I think that may be generous.   A typical IM has about 20% DNF/DNS.  It would take dedication and I think the failure rate (the DNS) would be way higher.  The reason I say that is, even people who have trained for marathons and HIMs find out that IM take more time and commitment than they thought it would take...and these are endurance athletes. 

Not sure what we're  talking about thought becuase "30 random people" is kinda vague.  If you take 30 random people, statistically 0% of them will stick with training and complete an IM.

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2010-05-05 4:16 PM
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Rogillio - 2010-05-05 4:11 PM
furiousferret - 2010-05-05 4:03 PM I'm not sure you guys are aware of what the average American couch potato looks like these days.

I still say no.  Taking someone from the couch, and building a safe base (10% rule) takes about 10 weeks alone, you have the other 20 weeks for training and it seems doable but this person is going to be doing their first century, 16 mile run, 2 mile swim, during that period when the muscles and tendons just aren't strong enough to handle the load.  

I'll put it like this; you get 30 random people to do this and about 15 will complete it.   


I think that may be generous.   A typical IM has about 20% DNF/DNS.  It would take dedication and I think the failure rate (the DNS) would be way higher.  The reason I say that is, even people who have trained for marathons and HIMs find out that IM take more time and commitment than they thought it would take...and these are endurance athletes. 

Not sure what we're  talking about thought becuase "30 random people" is kinda vague.  If you take 30 random people, statistically 0% of them will stick with training and complete an IM.

~Mike


Ya, 50% is I think super generous.  I'd say if 100 people started, 10 may race and 5 may finish.

But, it's still possible.

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2010-05-05 5:57 PM
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Photo Mike - 2010-05-05 11:29 AM Put yourself in a situation like they do on "Biggest Loser" and I think it's very doable, but not for anyone that has a normal life.
The former biggest loser did DNF Kona....


This is also after he got married, had 2 kids and gained back about 80 pounds.

I think what he meant is that if you take someone that's 20-35 pounds overweight, and you put him in a situation where all you do is eat, sleep, and workout (with no outside distractions...and have some scream at you "LAST CHANCE WORKOUT"...LOL) for 6 months and you can get some insane results.  It's just not possible for the average person who has a full time job and possibly having kids and other family commitments.

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Not all couch potatoes are equal in this respect, and some will surely be able to do this.  Not smart, but certainly possible.


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PennState - 2010-05-05 4:43 PM Gosh I never get sick of these discussions


And I never get sick of opinions about the topics of the discussions.

2010-05-05 6:41 PM
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I'm going to go with 'possible' if you dedicate your life and are coached by an expert.  From day 1 you live the life - nutrition, rest, stretching, pilates, technique work and all that jazz.  The younger the better after 25, single, no kids, part time job.

And it would help if you already knew how to swim!  Once you make the swim cut off the other two are more generous in my opinion. 

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2010-05-05 8:22 PM
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50.  50 up and down and inside out weeks.   no coach, way over 40, 3 kids.  unlikely?  that's probably what made it work.
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I'd be willing to set up a pay pal account and everyone can contribute to my IM fund for the entry fee and place bets for IM Cozumel. apx 30 weeks away.  I've been a couch potato for a bit,  axp 25 pounds overweight and this will settle the debate once and for all.

 just since I'm a giver

also I have class a couple days a week, this along with the drinking and chasing women will be taking up my time...   I'm at best a 50/50 shot right out of the gate.. 



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Course would also make a huge difference.  Arizona is fairly flat, and I heard the same about Western Australia.  Now compare that to Silverman or St. George last weekend.  Not all IM's are created equal.



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velcromom - 2010-05-05 12:48 PM From the couch, with RA.  Some swimming history many years ago.  I signed up for IMWI in September of 2008.  Ran for the first time the next day.  Raced my first 1/2 mary in 3 weeks, first mary 5 months later.  Snagged a bike from my son, changed out the seat, bought bike shoes - learned how to clip in/out in January 2009.  Did first tri at Wildflower in May 2009.  First Oly in June 2009.  IMWI 9/13/09 in 14:12.  Boston last month.....IMCdA next month.

I'm in my mid forties, have 3 kids - and a very supportive, athletic husband.  Wasn't much overweight. It was HARD, but fun. Many sacrifices in terms of time - but that was my call.   BT was an incredible support and resource, still is.

Start slow - stay consistent.  Don't stop.  Listen to your body.  I believe for most people, if you REALLY want it, you can do it.


I screwed up your BT tat that day, didn't I?  It would've been a nicer day for you if I wouldn't have done that.  

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I think it is much easier to sell a plan "Couch potato to Ironman in 30 week" than "Couch potato to Ironman in 2 years" although the latter option would probable be a more reasonable, healthy approach.
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MultisportMinistries - 2010-05-05 4:45 PM

I think it it depends (as stated earlier) on coach potato.  I have done about 10 tri's in 2008 & 2009, 8 sprints, 1 Oly and 1 HIM.  I was not really trained for either the Oly or the HIM but completed both in 3:06 and 6:35, respectively.  I was about 240lbs at the time of both races.  I had shoulder surgery last August from a college baseball worn down shoulder and from that surgery, I developed 6 blood clots - 2 in my calf and 4 in my lungs.  Spent the next 4 days in Pulmonary ICU and next 7 months on blood thinners.   Was also diagnosed with sleeep apnea in December.  Sleep has been a big issue and is still not resolved.  My wife gave birth to our son in Jan. at 26 weeks and he passed in 7 days, just 15 weeks ago, so it has been a rough year, to say the least. 

I was planning on doing a few sprints and maybe an Oly or two in 2010, as my head was not into Tri's much due to my health and our's son's passing.  I then found out on 4.15.10 that my name was on the Kona Lottery list.  So much for easing back into things.  Clots are now all gone and weight is down to 218lbs.  I have about 5 months to get ready for thsi epic 140.6 as I have truly been "on the couch" for 8 months angry about my health and then my son.  I look forward to the race in Kona and will either finish or they will carry me off on a stretcher.  I do not worry about cut-offs as much as I do proper pacing.  I always seem to push harder than I should, which has led to cramping in my HIM.  I also completed a trail marathon and DNF'd after trying a 50k.  Cramped bad in both.  Bad idea to try the 50k on limited training.

Either way, I may be a good testiment as to whether it is possible.  I do plan to train 6 days a week but doubt I will do two a days if it is not the weekend.  Will see how it goes.  Feel blessed to have been selected.  Did an interview on Sirius Satellite last week and talked about the upcoming training a bit.

Brian



My prayers are with you for what you & your family have been through.  I wish you all the best both personally and in your training plans.  But I pray you do not risk your health for Kona.  Multiple lung clots can take years to fully recover from.  If it comes together-great.  If not, don't take that stretcher thing literally.
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Subject: RE: Couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks? yeah right...
1stTimeTri - 2010-05-05 6:37 PM
velcromom - 2010-05-05 12:48 PM From the couch, with RA.  Some swimming history many years ago.  I signed up for IMWI in September of 2008.  Ran for the first time the next day.  Raced my first 1/2 mary in 3 weeks, first mary 5 months later.  Snagged a bike from my son, changed out the seat, bought bike shoes - learned how to clip in/out in January 2009.  Did first tri at Wildflower in May 2009.  First Oly in June 2009.  IMWI 9/13/09 in 14:12.  Boston last month.....IMCdA next month.

I'm in my mid forties, have 3 kids - and a very supportive, athletic husband.  Wasn't much overweight. It was HARD, but fun. Many sacrifices in terms of time - but that was my call.   BT was an incredible support and resource, still is.

Start slow - stay consistent.  Don't stop.  Listen to your body.  I believe for most people, if you REALLY want it, you can do it.


I screwed up your BT tat that day, didn't I?  It would've been a nicer day for you if I wouldn't have done that.  


You did - but you were still part of a GREAT day!!  Started it with a grin....

btw, I'm in Idaho in 2 months, bring a tattoo!!
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