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2010-09-02 8:47 AM

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Subject: On swimmers and snorkels, why it's a bad idea to race with one
No, this isn't a bag on snorkel thread.  If you have a medical condition and can't move your neck enough, that's one thing.  

But there have been a few threads re: snorkels recently, and to race with one as a crutch, or aid, is actually doing you more harm than good and potentially seriously affecting your performance.  Add the stress of cold water, wetsuits, crowds, they are even worse.

The air around us has about 21% oxygen.  Exhaled air contains about 17% oxygen plus 4% CO2 (as opposed to something like .4% of CO2 in air), plus some other gases, mostly nitrogen.  Obviously, oxygen is the one we're concerned about getting as much as we can.  CO2 is heavier than air and in enough concentrations is deadly.  

The way snorkels are designed, they have a pocket below the mouth which creates an area called dead space.  The exhaled CO2 collects in this dead space and, when you inhale, you inhale a much higher percentage of CO2 than exists in surrounding air, and, as a result, less oxygen.  That's why some people experience the feeling that they can't get a full breath when snorkeling.  You are simply not getting the oxygen you need.  In a race situation, you are clearly not doing yourself any favors by using a snorkel and, in fact, you are preventing yourself from getting adequate oxygen exactly when you need it most. 

In fact, snorkels are advertised as a way to "increase CO2 tolerance."   http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:wH2WKFvi9a0J:www.all3sports.com/product_info.php%3FpName%3Dfinis-swimmers-snorkel+swim+snorkel+CO2&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Here's a short discussion re: snorkels, swimming and CO2

http://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?p=109713




Edited by ChrisM 2010-09-02 8:49 AM


2010-09-02 8:52 AM
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Good stuff. 

As I mentioned in the thread in "Iron Distance", I think most folks would find a snorkel to be a big PITA, not the super-cheat crutch it may appear to be at first glance...

Cheers, Chris
2010-09-02 8:58 AM
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This is exactly what I point out everytime a snorkel thread comes up and somebody claims that there is an advantage to using one.
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I used a snorkel to learn to swim. I was in a pool, and that was a year ago. I now have completed 400, 750, and 1500 distances in tri's over the course of this year. Knowing what I know now about swimming in a tri I would never have used a snorkel in a race. And for the record, I never have. If nothing else, for the simple fact, that if you are still uncomfortable enough in the water that you need a snorkel to swim it is dangerous for you to be out there. I saw a lot of snorkels at the Chicago tri. Most of them were pulled out of the water by lifeguards before the halfway mark. People forget how dangerous OWS'ing is!! It's not a joke, and deserves respect.

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Hydro - 2010-09-02 6:52 AM
Good stuff. 

As I mentioned in the thread in "Iron Distance", I think most folks would find a snorkel to be a big PITA, not the super-cheat crutch it may appear to be at first glance...

Cheers, Chris


Your post is what actually spurred me to post.  I've known about this from scuba, and hate using snorkels except for snorkeling, and wondered if swim snorkels were designed to eliminate the dead space.  There may be models that do it, but the fact that they are specifically advertised to increase tolerance is telling..... 
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Thanks Chris!


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DerekL - 2010-09-02 8:58 AM This is exactly what I point out everytime a snorkel thread comes up and somebody claims that there is an advantage to using one.


Ya but,,,,

maybe you could relate it to intubating a person and they would understand better since it's well documented and all..  


but wait  

that usually fails also

Yell


Edited by Gaarryy 2010-09-02 9:04 AM
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