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2005-07-25 9:58 AM

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All the yahoos who are on a group I belong too are belittling Lance Armstrong and "Cycling is not a real sport, you don't need hand eye coordination". Then there is the "Lance is on roids, worse than Barry Bonds"... Umm no.. The one drug that can be ruled out 100% would be roids. Not only does it leave a signature look that someone as lean as Lance cannot carry they test him so frequently for them it would be a miracle if he was and had not popped.

They also are making statements like: "I learned to ride a bike when I was three, anyone can ride a bike".. Fine.. then *YOU* do it. You get off your potato chip filled butt and max out your heartrate on a bike for 6 hours. Let's see you try it.

I "Get" that non sports people do not "get" sports. I do. I also get that there is a cloud of drug enhanced rumors that will follow any athlete in any sport these days. I do not get the "he is not a REAL athlete" remarks out there. I don't get that what those men did over the last three weeks is not somehow "real" and that football is more real. All elite athletes are amazing to me. No matter the sport. OK I admit it I don't understand NASCAR and never will.. but other than that... Why do people have to attack someone's triumph?

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2005-07-25 10:04 AM
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Jealousy, envy, and general dissatisfaction with their own lives. That's why. Too many people feel like they need to tear someone else down in order to build themselves up. Poor, angry, bitter, miserable people. Let them sit on their butts and criticize Lance Armstrong. It's actually quite ridiculous.

Meanwhile, VIVE LE TOUR! Congratulations to Lance...

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2005-07-25 10:33 AM
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Don't waste your energy getting pissed at them. Until I got off my potato-chip-eating butt, I didn't have any idea what it meant to push your body to the limits. Now I having nothing but respect for sports elites, no matter if I "get" the sport or not. Leave off reading those threads till the brouha has settled down and they're on to complaining about other things.

People are going to mouth off about stuff they don't understand (like, oh, triathlon?? Hence all the "I hate it when people say" threads). If you let it get to you, you just waste energy you could save for your bike or run.
2005-07-25 10:43 AM
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I have heard those "hand eye coordination" arguments before.

I find them hilarious.

If history is correct, the human race's first athletic competitions were running.

No hand eye coordination there.

I agree that sometimes it is just best to let these idiots make their arguments and ignore them.
2005-07-25 10:43 AM
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Whizzer - 2005-07-25 11:04 AM

Jealousy, envy, and general dissatisfaction with their own lives. That's why. Too many people feel like they need to tear someone else down in order to build themselves up.



Well stated.
2005-07-25 11:03 AM
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Those who say cycling requires no hand-eye coordination have never ridden a big paceline at 30+ mph over cobblestones.
Armstrong is perhaps the single most-tested athelete in sports today (for PED's)

Cycling will, unfortuneately, probably always be a "fringe" sport here in the US. I revel in that fact because I have always been a bit of a counter-to-popular-culture kind of guy.

NASCAR, SCHMASCAR.........that's not racing, that's traffic.



2005-07-25 11:23 AM
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2005-07-25 11:34 AM
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I would echo a lot of the comments all of you have made, but think about this:

Most people can train, reasonably well and with a little luck play well at whatever sport they choose. Go out, get some golf clubs - play for a couple of days and have a game with a great low score.

No on I have ever met willingly gets a bike and trains to put out 400 watts and hour for 6-8 hours a day - in all sorts of heat, in cold, in the the wet to just be a middling cyclist - I mean, not even CLOSE the the level Lance can compete at... for THREE WEEKS SOLID.

Ignore them - jealous little minded people wear me out.

2005-07-25 11:35 AM
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Unless you are a QB or Receiver, American football doesn't require hand/eye coordination either. 

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2005-07-25 11:40 AM
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Thats why Real Athletes:

Tri
Bike
Swim
Run

(list others)

The others just play games.




Actually I read somewher (I forgot where) that NASCAR and Cycling are preety similar in terms of the overall strategy to win a race. The only diffrence is in one you are burning calories, the other you are guzzling gas.

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2005-07-25 11:56 AM
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Why worry about what the pinheads think?


2005-07-25 12:00 PM
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Renee - 2005-07-25 12:56 PM

Why worry about what the pinheads think?


Because one of my chief faults in life is a desire to be right. It sucks cause I am frequently wrong. This is one that I know I am right on tho.. I guess it is not a desire to be right as much as a desire to have the pinheads acknowledge I am right. OH MY GOSH I AM LIKE ONE OF THOSE RELIGIOUS CONVERTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh bother.. I have become a born again triathlete. Somebody smack me, please.
2005-07-25 12:03 PM
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"Those most interested in telling you about their religious beliefs are those least interested in hearing yours."

Ahhh, screw 'em if they can't take a joke!

As for your need to be right (or acknowledged as right)...welcome to my world, darlin'.

LOL!!!

2005-07-25 12:25 PM
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Lance by the numbers. If this isn't an athlete I don't know what is. The numbers don't lie.


1 -- Lance Armstrong's ranking among world cyclists in 1996 before he was diagnosed with testicular cancer that spread to his lungs and brain.

3 -- Children he has with wife Kristin. Son Luke, and twin daughters, Isabelle and Grace. All children were conceived through In-Vitro Fertilization as Armstrong's chemotherapy left him sterile.

3 -- Consecutive Tour de France titles won by Armstrong, tying him with Greg LeMond for the most wins by an American in the 2,250-mile race.

4 -- Percent body fat Armstrong carries. Shaquille O'Neal has 16 percent.

5 -- Months after his cancer was diagnosed that Armstrong began training again.

16 -- Age Armstrong became a professional triathlete.

20 -- Percent chance that doctors gave Armstrong to recover from advanced testicular cancer in 1996.

32 -- Armstrong's resting heart rate. The average resting heart rate for a man is 70 beats per minute.

33 -- Percent larger that Armstong's heart is compared to the heart size of an average man.

85 -- Armstrong's VO2 Max rating, which measures the amount of oxygen the lungs can consume during exercise. An average healthy male might rate a 40.

2,046 -- Number of miles in the 2002 Tour de France. Shortened this year in the hopes of lessening Armstrong's advantage.

6,500 -- Average number of daily calories burned by Tour de France riders over the three weeks of the race. Active people might burn 3,500 daily.

3,000,000 -- Amount in grant money for cancer programs and research distributed by the Lance Armstrong Foundation since its inception in 1997.
2005-07-25 2:31 PM
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Nancy,

You just have to chalk this up to someone who has an opinion about everything, but knows nothing.  You've just got to ask where he gets his information?  Every day Lance won, or is was in Yellow, he gets drug tested.  All 83 times at the tour alone.  Not to mention the random unanounced testing at his home.this is the kind of guy that if you ask him about childbirth, he could probably tell you what it feels like.

2005-07-25 3:22 PM
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those idiots on sport center were saying cycling was not a real sport but football on the otherhand is, what a freakin joke, like the kids from the x-country team i coach say " our sport is your sports punishment"


2005-07-25 6:27 PM
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The hand-eye coordination argument is the most rediculous argument there is. Sports and athletics have never been defined by simply hand eye coordination. The first Olympic games had one event the stadia (Where we get teh word stadium from) it was a foot race. In the modern summer olympics the most celbrated track and field athlete of the games is the winner of the shortes race, the 100 yard sprint. Unless someone is juggling on the way donw the track there isn't much hand eye coordination going on. By that same definition triathletes aren't athletes.

The argument also misses the fact that cycling in fact does take great coordination. Anyone who thinks going down a mountain at 60mph and around switchbacks doesn't take coordination aught to try it sometime. But I hope they let me know first so I can take out a life insurance policy on them.

The hand eye coordination definition of athletics would also mean that darts is athletic, or horseshoes, because these take eye-hand coordination.

It's such a rediculous argument. What people that make this argumetn are really saying is that cycling is a sport they dont follow, like, or understand and therefore they down play it's role as an athletic endevor.
2005-07-25 6:30 PM
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I love all these thoughts. I may adopt that slogan. "My sport is your sports punishment" hmmmm... I think my sig line is changing.
2005-07-25 7:56 PM
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Good job...
2005-07-25 8:10 PM
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You do know that no hold em poker is one of the most popular "sprts" on TV now, dontcha? Never thought I'd see the day when a bunch of High school equivalency losers would be made icons out of.


Rounders kicked ass, though
2005-07-26 12:46 AM
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Whizzer - 2005-07-25 7:04 AM

Jealousy, envy, and general dissatisfaction with their own lives. That's why. Too many people feel like they need to tear someone else down in order to build themselves up. Poor, angry, bitter, miserable people. Let them sit on their butts and criticize Lance Armstrong. It's actually quite ridiculous.

Meanwhile, VIVE LE TOUR! Congratulations to Lance...

Whizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Those people suck on those forums.  They can kiss our arses and Lance's, even Sheryl's (she understands cycling)



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help_im_drowning - 2005-07-25 12:25 PM


3 -- Consecutive Tour de France titles won by Armstrong, tying him with Greg LeMond for the most wins by an American in the 2,250-mile race.




Uh, isn't he up to 7 now?



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