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2010-11-04 8:27 AM |
Extreme Veteran 487 | Subject: 26.2 -> 31 Hi -- I'm running my first marathon in a couple weeks, and it just happens that there's a 50k four weeks after the marathon, in my town, on a flat, crushed-limestone rail trail. In fact, it's where I've done most of my long runs in training. My question for you all is, on a flat, non-paved surface, how hard are the last five miles of a 50k? If I do it, it would really be just to do it, and I would probably go about 2 min/mile slower than my 26.2 pace. If I do that, do you think my marathon training can carry me through this race? Or does that exponentially tougher feeling that pops up (for me at mile 20 just keep getting exponentially tougher? Thanks for your thoughts, Michael |
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2010-11-04 8:31 AM in reply to: #3194555 |
Extreme Veteran 877 Pa | Subject: RE: 26.2 -> 31 I've personally never done it, but I've read everywhere that most 50k training plans are VERY similar to the marathon plans. I don't think you'll have a problem at all completing a 50k with a marathon plan. Hopefully some more experienced folks will chime in. |
2010-11-04 9:31 AM in reply to: #3194555 |
Expert 1023 Ft Gordon, GA | Subject: RE: 26.2 -> 31 You'll be totally fine, esp if you can stick to your pace plan. And a 4 week break in between is perfect. I would taper for a week, do another long run two weeks after your marathon and then taper into the 50K. Should not be a problem at all, actually it is almost perfect. Good luck! |
2010-11-04 12:30 PM in reply to: #3194555 |
Expert 1073 scottsdale, az | Subject: RE: 26.2 -> 31 I think 50k's are easier than marathons.... I just walk more. :P |
2010-11-04 12:37 PM in reply to: #3194555 |
Expert 944 Waller County, TX | Subject: RE: 26.2 -> 31 Assuming you're in good shape, you'll be fine. Yes, the extended distances are serious business and you'll pay some price, but you can always compensate by going s-l-o-w-e-r. Last year, 3 weeks after a BQ Marathon, I did a 50-mile trail run in 9:51. Of course, everyone's different and "good shape" is defined many different ways. Go for it! |
2010-11-04 12:40 PM in reply to: #3194555 |
Champion 7547 Albuquerque, New Mexico | Subject: RE: 26.2 -> 31 How hard the last 5 miles of a 50K are will depend on how hard you go for the first 26? (Just like a marathon...) |
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2010-11-04 9:40 PM in reply to: #3194555 |
Veteran 144 Vienna, Austria (temporarily) | Subject: RE: 26.2 -> 31 You should be fine unless you use everything to finish the marathon. Then you may not be recovered enough for the 50k. If you finish the marathon fine and recover well, I don't think you will have any issue with the 50k especially if you do run 2min/mile slower. Good luck and let us know how it goes. |
2010-11-15 2:07 PM in reply to: #3194555 |
Extreme Veteran 487 | Subject: RE: 26.2 -> 31 Thanks for all the perspective. It's much appreciated. I ran the marathon on Saturday, and it went quite well. I think I ran a bit conservatively, but I'm OK with that for my first marathon. Two days later, my quads are a touch sore, but not bad. The 50k is 26 days away now. I want to do it, and I think I'll aim for about 1 min/mile slower than my marathon pace (10's instead of 9's). My question now is, what should I do in between the two races? Should I take most of this first week after the marathon off? Should I squeeze a 20 miler in two weeks after the marathon and two weeks before the 50k? Any perspective would be really helpful. Thanks all. |
2010-11-16 12:00 PM in reply to: #3194555 |
Champion 7547 Albuquerque, New Mexico | Subject: RE: 26.2 -> 31 Congrats on the marathon finish! It's probably up to you whether you do another 20-miler half-way between the two. You need time to recover from the race and also from the training run, so that'd be the only weekend I'd attempt it. And...if you abort the run at 15, don't worry about it. You've still got the fitness you need for the 50K. |
2010-11-17 10:41 AM in reply to: #3194555 |
Extreme Veteran 416 Raleigh, NC | Subject: RE: 26.2 -> 31 OK I am hijacking the thread a bit because I am in the exact same boat! Marathon completed this Saturday...50k is 12/18 Planned long runs are: This weekend 11/20: 10 miles, maybe 13 11/27: 16 mile run 12/4: 20 or 22 mile run 12/11: 10 mile run 12/18: 50k trail race! During the week I will plan a short recovery run and 1-2 mid distance runs. In addition to cross training. I am sorta making this up as I go along so what are the thoughts of the veterans? Thanks! |
2010-11-19 8:38 AM in reply to: #3214846 |
Extreme Veteran 487 | Subject: RE: 26.2 -> 31 jrj0924 - 2010-11-17 11:41 AM OK I am hijacking the thread a bit because I am in the exact same boat! Marathon completed this Saturday...50k is 12/18 Planned long runs are: This weekend 11/20: 10 miles, maybe 13 11/27: 16 mile run 12/4: 20 or 22 mile run 12/11: 10 mile run 12/18: 50k trail race! During the week I will plan a short recovery run and 1-2 mid distance runs. In addition to cross training. I am sorta making this up as I go along so what are the thoughts of the veterans? Thanks! Hey Jennifer -- that's awesome. It looks like you have one more week between your races. I think I'm going to do about the same, but without the 20 miler. As of tomorrow, since the marathon, I'll have taken seven days of total rest (OK, one swim and a little light biking), then my weekend runs will be ~12mi, ~16mi, ~10mi, 50k! Good luck with your intra-race training! |
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2010-11-19 1:16 PM in reply to: #3194555 |
Extreme Veteran 416 Raleigh, NC | Subject: RE: 26.2 -> 31 Yea I just ran for the first time since Saturday...legs felt great so I think the total rest was a good idea! |