Winter jacket - heavy v layer
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2010-12-07 3:05 PM |
Extreme Veteran 490 London | Subject: Winter jacket - heavy v layer So my five year old Altura bright yellow jacket is on it's last legs and kneed to get something new. I'm going long next year so will be putting more rides in over the winter but also need something for commuting. I was originally looking at the Altura Night Vision Evo Jacket but I think it may be limited to cold weather only so no running or spring / summer workouts. So the next option I was looking at was lighter and convertible so the sleeves could be zipped off - Pearl Izumi Elite Barrier Convertible Jacket. After a trip to the local bike store I found myself looking at the soft-shell windproof offerings from different brands but that require an additional waterproof lightweight top. Ssssoooooooo after all that - what do people think? Lightweight with layers (got plenty of layers!), heavier weight less layers or soft-shell until it rains? |
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2010-12-07 3:13 PM in reply to: #3240189 |
Champion 7233 | Subject: RE: Winter jacket - heavy v layer i used to have one of the pearl izumi ones (not sure the model but it was a wind breaker, vents, and zip off sleeves). now using the same type from frank shorter. down to about 35-37 or so i run in that with a tank under and shorts. for real cold i put a base layer under and may or may not take the sleeves off on the bike i only use it as a vest (sleeves are too short for me to use on the bike). its a great jacket style to have and has a lot of uses. |
2010-12-07 3:29 PM in reply to: #3240189 |
Regular 128 | Subject: RE: Winter jacket - heavy v layer Whatever jacket you get, make sure it breathes. I would never wear a outer shell/windbreaker in the winter. If the layers don't breath, you will end up sweating too much, soaking you base layers and after about an hour in the cold.....you'll start to get really cold due to all the sweat soaking and not drying in your base layers. I have a mid weight winter jacket that i have been wearing for several years but this year I picked up a new team heavier winter jacket. The heavier jacket allows me to wear less underneith, but also does not breath as well so I retain more moisture underneith....and get colder much sooner than if I wear the ligher weight winter jacket (that breaths better) with more base layers. Good luck Michael |
2010-12-07 3:33 PM in reply to: #3240189 |
Champion 7595 Columbia, South Carolina | Subject: RE: Winter jacket - heavy v layer Layers. On the bike, I also make sure that one of the layers is a bike jersey with large pockets where I can shove any layers that I end up shedding during the ride. This set-up is especially welcome for 4-5 hour rides in the spring and fall that start very cold and end in warm sunshine. |
2010-12-08 3:14 PM in reply to: #3240189 |
Extreme Veteran 490 London | Subject: RE: Winter jacket - heavy v layer cheers for the input guys. I'll head to the LBS tomorrow and check out the lighter / convertible options. Anyone tried the Pearl one I mentioned? |
2010-12-08 3:26 PM in reply to: #3241759 |
Champion 10018 , Minnesota | Subject: RE: Winter jacket - heavy v layer That PI jacket looks a lot like the one I wear, only I think it's called the "Whisper Jacket." But it's several years old and may be rebranded. I wear it as a top layer on all winter rides, although I don't recall anything colder than 20 degrees. If it's that cold I will wear a scarf or balaclava, wicking long sleeve shirt and a fleece layer. Hard to fit under the fitted jacket, but it works great because it's pretty wind proof. However, I find it to be not breathable enough for running. |
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2010-12-08 8:10 PM in reply to: #3240189 |
Champion 19812 MA | Subject: RE: Winter jacket - heavy v layer My absolute favorite cycling jacket for winter is Gore Bike Wear jacket that is made of windstopper fabric. I have one with zip off sleeves and another without. For me once it is below 45 and certainly in the 20s it is wind that gets me cold. Jacket keeps the wind off me and that is huge factor on feeling comfortable on the bike. Jackets are in the $120-200 range but at Performance or Bike Nashbar they often have good deals. I have a couple softshell jackets that work well being warm, a bit of windproofing on front of jacket. I will wear them in the 40-55 range and over a ls jersey with Gore windjacket over the top. Difference between Gore Bike wear wind proof jacket and Pearl Izumi is huge...Gore is much better. |
2010-12-09 5:43 PM in reply to: #3240189 |
Extreme Veteran 490 London | Subject: RE: Winter jacket - heavy v layer Hey guys, Thanks for all your input. In the end I went for a the Gore Bike Wear Phantom AW10 Jacket [link: http://www.evanscycles.com/products/gore-bike-wear/phantom-aw10-jac... Looks awesome, fits great, feels really warm and is water resistant. Now all I need is a lightweight shell to throw over the top every now and then |
2010-12-09 6:22 PM in reply to: #3243579 |
Champion 19812 MA | Subject: RE: Winter jacket - heavy v layer Graycat - 2010-12-09 6:43 PM Hey guys, Thanks for all your input. In the end I went for a the Gore Bike Wear Phantom AW10 Jacket [link: http://www.evanscycles.com/products/gore-bike-wear/phantom-aw10-jac... Looks awesome, fits great, feels really warm and is water resistant. Now all I need is a lightweight shell to throw over the top every now and then It is a softshell which I find it not as wind proof. I like one more like this one at Bike Nashbar for $65. I have the women's Phantom and find the upper arms of the jersey part when zipped off are to tight plus if I am warm enough to zip off the sleeves the body part would be to warm. It's not one of my favorite Gore jackets. |
2010-12-10 1:50 AM in reply to: #3243634 |
Extreme Veteran 490 London | Subject: RE: Winter jacket - heavy v layer KathyG - 2010-12-10 12:22 AM It is a softshell which I find it not as wind proof. I like one more like this one at Bike Nashbar for $65. I have the women's Phantom and find the upper arms of the jersey part when zipped off are to tight plus if I am warm enough to zip off the sleeves the body part would be to warm. It's not one of my favorite Gore jackets. I've had Gore "windstopper" kit before on the motorbike and it's been pretty awesome. This apparently has the later revision of the same stuff so we'll see how it goes Cheers for the headsup though |
2010-12-10 4:22 AM in reply to: #3240189 |
Veteran 250 Upstate NY | Subject: RE: Winter jacket - heavy v layer Having lived in both England and North America, I'm a big fan of layering simply as it provides you more flexibility. I'm a fan of under armour as a base layer (both the cold and the hot gear) and the Assos gear as the outer layer. You cna mix and match depending on the weather to produce the best combination. The Assos can be expensive, but all my gear has lasted me 5+ years without missing a beat. I guess it depends on how cold and how often you ride/run and what sort of punishment you're going to be putting your gear through. |
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2010-12-10 9:28 AM in reply to: #3240189 |
Master 2327 North Alabama | Subject: RE: Winter jacket - heavy v layer I like layers, but I don't like LOTS of layers. Generally I try to keep it at 3 on the bike and 2 on the run. for the bike, if it's really cold (not that usual here), I'll wear a compression layer, a jersey and a jacket. I really do like the Louis Garneau Men's Glaze Jacket. For the run, it's generally a compression layer and an outer layer (be it another shirt or jacket). And actually it's been that same LG jacket. If that helps.... |