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2011-03-09 8:19 AM

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Hello everyone ... so hear's the deal.  I'm built more like a linebacker than widereceiver (bigger shoulders/arms, wide back .. about 5'10" and 200-ish).  My body shape and BMI are vastly different now compared to when I started training for my first sprint tri a little over a year ago.  I've lost about 35 lbs and have a few more to go (which would be easier if I didn't love beer and hot wings so much .... damnit man).  My diet is much better but I seem to be putting on what I would consider bulkier muscle mass.  I'm averaging about 3-4 miles running 3 days a week, I'm doing 15-20 miles biking 2-3 days a week and I swim 2 days a week.  I'm not doing any weight training currently.  So I see all these gazelle like triathletes, long, skinny, strides that look like each step is 15 feet and here I go plodding along, pounding the pavement like a full back ..... Is there any way I can un-bulk?  Is it how I'm training?  Is it just my body type?  My arms/back/legs/shoulders are as muscular now as when I weights in in High School and College ....  I'm not complaining, really.  there are worse problems to have for sure.  Just wondering if I modified the way I was training if it would modify the way my muscles develop and perhaps be lighter?

Any response is appreciated.

 

Bruce 



2011-03-09 8:24 AM
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I'm 5'10". I've got a 46" chest. I've been running 15-25 miles per week for about two years and biking in the vicinity of 100-250 miles per week for about the same amount of time. I tend to swim 3 days a week, bike 3 days a week and run 3 days a week.

Short answer, no.

You can lose weight, to a point. For me it was when my blood pressure was 97/40 that I figured out I was NOT getting healthier so I started eating again and put 10-15 pounds back on.

Don't sweat it. The gazelles will podium, that's just the way it is.

2011-03-09 8:38 AM
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I'm 5'11" and 190. I'm pretty musculare and really, not interested in losing any size. I accepted my spot in the MOP. I will never have that lean, fast shape but it is possible to be big and fast. There is some serious speed in the 185-200 Clyde group at the races I have done.

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2011-03-09 8:39 AM
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I am 6 foot, and weigh 220.  Played baseball and football in high school and a year of football in college. I have excepted the fact that I could carry the top 3 finishers of the race on my back while i run.  Look at the bright side, those top 3 finishers cant touch us when were going down hills!!!!

2011-03-09 9:26 AM
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Fellow Fullbacks:

Thanks for the input.  I've also pretty well accepted that I'm a middle to back of the packer.  Which is okay for me.  I'm old and slow any how.  I just want to finish in what is a respectable time against what I have done previously.

Good luck,

Bruce

2011-03-09 9:34 AM
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I always felt there should be Quadathlon; where the fourth event was carrying a beer keg down and back a 100 yard course.


2011-03-09 9:39 AM
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I feel your pain, I am a Clyde in a Pony sized body.  Built like a spark plug with a BMI that says I am Obese even though I can only figure on 10 maybe 15 pounds that could be shed. 
2011-03-09 9:43 AM
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Hey,

 

Im 5 ft 6 and 160.... more muscular than most........... At least you have clydesdale

there should be a pony division

I guess I just gotta HTFU and get faster

2011-03-09 9:53 AM
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2011-03-09 10:13 AM
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Forget pony division I am still looking for the runt division
2011-03-09 10:22 AM
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This is an extreme example but think back to Lance Armstrong before cancer and after cancer. His body type, riding style, bike fit and physiology was almost entirely recalibrated by the cancer, the surgery and the chemo.

I wager Mr. Armstrong or any cancer survivor would not endorse that as a viable training regimen however.

It does illustrate the human capacity for adaptation. There are more relevant examples in the training setting too. The key factor is profound change. "Profound" being the operative word. If you want drastic change you will have to make drastic change. Your eating habits have to change, your exercise habits have to change- and not just a little.

Therein lies the problem for most of us. We will change to a degree for a while, but sweeping and durable changes are seldom enacted by us, they are usually imposed on us.

Ultimately, I'll suggest it boils down to how bad you want it.



2011-03-09 10:30 AM
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I think we are some what stuck with our body type.  I'm 6'1" and 225, I could cut most of the body fat off me and still be a big guy.  I've just worked at maximizing my potential.  I've learned almost any body type can be quick in the swim, hills on the ascent kill us, and running is always going to take more out of us big guys.  But, it doesn't mean we can't show up a few of those "skinny people."
2011-03-09 10:47 AM
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Increase the volume of your training (if possible).  You'll burn the muscle.  I don't know how healthy it is and I'm sure he has "pharmaceutical" help but Christian Bale changes his body type twice a year.

2011-03-09 11:11 AM
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jrondorf - 2011-03-09 11:30 AM I think we are some what stuck with our body type.  I'm 6'1" and 225, I could cut most of the body fat off me and still be a big guy.  I've just worked at maximizing my potential.  I've learned almost any body type can be quick in the swim, hills on the ascent kill us, and running is always going to take more out of us big guys.  But, it doesn't mean we can't show up a few of those "skinny people."

Amen, Nothing better than passing a "skinny person" espcially when they see your body markings dont wrap around your arms or legs.

2011-03-09 4:10 PM
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     I am one of those gazelle types, so I can't speak from experience, but I would think that after a year or two you should start to debulk a bit.  one thing that I can think of that would give you bulkier muscles would be the intensity of your workouts.  If you are swimming, biking, running really hard, then yes, you would put on bulkier muscle. 

     If you ARE doing really hard workouts, then try very low intensity workouts that last longer.  for example: Instead of running a hard 3-4 miles where your pulse is throbbing at the end and you are really sore, etc... try running 6 miles at a pace that seems TOO easy, that you could talk to someone at the same time. 

     Maybe you are already doing low intensity workouts.  If so, I have no more advice for you...sorry.

2011-03-09 4:14 PM
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     One more thought...it really is true what they say (you are what you eat).  If you are eating a lot of meat (buffalo wings like you said), that could bulk you up.  Try eating more fruits, nuts, vegis!  You can eat just about as much of those things as you want without putting on a ton of weight.


2011-03-09 5:57 PM
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I'm 6-1 and a fairly muscular 200 and have lifted weights for years, though less so now during the tri season.  Last year with the additonal S/B/R I did get a bit leaner though I probably only lost 5 lbs.  I think I gained some leg muscle from the running and biking and I developed a leaner but more defined physique in my upper body.  So I believe I was shedding at least some fat.

My running and biking times are pretty good in the sprint and olympic distances and I'm happy with that. I could shave a minute or two off perhaps by being lighter, but don't want to drastically change my lifestyle to do it.  I would do better if I was built like the gazelles but I still take pride in having a thicker build and still being competitive.  Now if I ever got serious about the longer distances, I'd look to shed some more weight.

2011-03-09 6:14 PM
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The grass is always greener on the other side I suppose.  I know guys that can't put on an ounce of muscle no matter what they do.  At 5'6", 157...I still retain a lot of muscle from my weight lifting days.

To this day, people still ask me what type of weight lifting I do to get how I look.  When I tell them I haven't done any weight lifting in 2 years...they get pretty upset.

Just remember that there's someone who wishes they had your body type.

2011-03-09 8:30 PM
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You know, I feel the same way about other runners, graceful little gazelles and all.  I have trained up to a pretty good pace (~8 min/mile), but there are always going to be faster runners than me, no matter how much I train.

The Desiderata by Ehrmann was on this lady's office wall, and this is the part that stuck with me:
"If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain or bitter;
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself."

So just enjoy the sport, S/B/R your pace, and be thankful that you have a healthy body that allows you to do this crazy thing called triathlon.

2011-03-09 10:06 PM
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neurocyclist - 2011-03-10 3:30 PM

The Desiderata by Ehrmann was on this lady's office wall, and this is the part that stuck with me:
"If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain or bitter;
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself."

I like that, very apt. You guys would probably consider me one of the "gazelle types", I'm 6'1 and 180lbs, but my main training partner is 6'3 and about 165lbs and I often consider myself to be the slow, dense one, and he the tall skinny bastard who always beats me, seems to bound along taking enormous strides as if he were weightless.

 

There's always a bigger fish (or more gazelle-like triathlete)

2011-03-09 10:07 PM
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If your main goal is to go faster, just train more.  It'll happen.  Good luck with it and have fun in any case!


2011-03-09 11:30 PM
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i'm kinda in the female version in your shoes.  at about 5'4" and 130#, if i lose any more weight i start to look kind of unhealthy, have ZERO energy and want to sleep all the time.  i usually hang out around 135# when doing HIM-esque levels of training (girl's gotta EAT!) and can dip down to around 125# if i'm just running and doing yoga or something...  sure i'm a bit stubby (and baby got BACK,) but i've got some killer quads and a nice-looking upper back/arms.  

after 33 years on the planet, i've accepted i'm a bit of a pear shape, so i work to put the muscle on my pear and just keep running along at the best pace i can do (with the that time i have to train.)  

2011-03-10 7:46 AM
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I would never purposely debulk. Don't get hung-up on your body type. There are some very fast big guys out there. I would really try and bump up your running mileage and do at least 1 long run a week and work towards 100 mile months following the 10% rule. Your looking at years but your body type will change and adapt.
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