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2011-04-13 7:27 PM
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DanielG - 2011-04-12 12:24 PM Okay, this is a whole series of what not to do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjqEogQtVQ0&feature=related[/QUOTE]

 

I'm loving the epic falls with the 10k $ bikes and tear drop helmets.



2011-04-13 7:34 PM
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doubleplay - 2011-04-13 3:23 PM Do whatever is safe and more comfortable. Flying mount or walking the bike with bike shoes, etc... Gaining 5 seconds probably will not make a difference for 99% of the people here. Don't try something new because you'll gain style points unless you are very good at it. I've seen rubber bans breaking prematurely, shoes dragging, bikes falling and even refs giving penalties because you are discarding equipment(rubber bands)... Don't forget smooth is fast... and unless you are a pro couple seconds here and there will make zero difference.


There have been plenty of age group awards decided by seconds.

 

x2.  I see this statement (the bolded one) a lot, and I don't get it.  Even if you are 100% sure that a few seconds won't make a difference in your overall placement, consider that the sport of triathlon includes the transitions.  They are part of the race.  I want to do as well as possible in the race, not just in terms of overall placement but also just in terms of personal performance.  Saying that a few seconds in transition don't matter sounds to me like saying "I might as well not give 100% on the run; after all, the few seconds gained if I push that little bit harder won't matter."

(OTOH, I certainly agree that doing something for style points doesn't make much sense either.  At least not to me.  But I'm a pretty unstylish person.)

2011-04-13 8:40 PM
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MKirk - 2011-04-13 2:15 PM
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jgerbodegrant - 2011-04-12 8:44 AM

Gary....see where exactly do you put the rubber band?  Across the instep of the shoe?


On the loop in back if you have a triathlon shoe.  Before I got a pair of those I had the straps attached so the shoe would be at its loosest. That gave the velcro straps a loop and I ran the rubber band through that. 

I think I have the dismount covered.  The only issue is that as I step off the side of the bike, obviously one crank arm is all the way down.  So my giant size 14 shoe actually hits the ground (don't laugh, that's not nice).

It gets worse. You can have your shoe pop off the pedals if they meet the ground just right. Not fun (the voice of experience: size 48 shoes and 175 cranks). Because of a suggestion I saw here at BT, at my last triathlon I got off my bike and just picked it up and ran with it to the rack. It was much easier (and faster) than I thought it would be. The peace of mind of not having to worry about going back to pick up a shoe makes it so worth it.

 

I think you guys are doing it all wrong if your shoe is hitting the ground.  You do know that when you take your feet out of the shoes to dismount, you are placing your feet On Top of the shoe.  You are standing ontop of your now empty shoes, this way when the crank arm is all the way down, your shoe will not hit the pavement.

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I think the OP is talking about when you get off the bike at the dismount line and moving to the bike rack. Thats when the shoe hits the ground and pops off.

2011-04-14 9:49 AM
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Before I got tri shoes with a loop on the back a used eye screws to attach the rubber bands to the rear quick release and where the front derailleur attaches to the frame.
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dotharunningman - 2011-04-14 10:49 AM Before I got tri shoes with a loop on the back a used eye screws to attach the rubber bands to the rear quick release and where the front derailleur attaches to the frame.

Wait....where does this "eye screw" actually go?  In your shoe?  My tri shoes don't have a loop either...but I'm sure as heck not screwing something into them.

2011-04-14 1:45 PM
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jgerbodegrant - 2011-04-13 10:25 AM

running2far - 2011-04-12 2:13 PMRace cyclocross and it becomes second nature. Good place to crash and burn so to speak. http://www.cyclotube.com/2008/03/23/cyclocross-mountsdismounts-comp... fun you'll ever have on a bike!

Are they "exchanging machines" because of technical issues???



Probably mucked up with mud. All guys at the pro levels have pit bikes and swap several times if conditions are bad.

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2011-04-15 12:19 AM
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MKirk - 2011-04-13 1:15 PM

You do know that when you take your feet out of the shoes to dismount, you are placing your feet On Top of the shoe.  You are standing ontop of your now empty shoes, this way when the crank arm is all the way down, your shoe will not hit the pavement.

You do know that you have to get off your pedals at some point and run to the rack, right? That's when your shoes dangle and scrape the ground (if they're big enough).
2011-04-15 3:39 AM
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dotharunningman - 2011-04-14 10:49 AM Before I got tri shoes with a loop on the back a used eye screws to attach the rubber bands to the rear quick release and where the front derailleur attaches to the frame.

Wait....where does this "eye screw" actually go?  In your shoe?  My tri shoes don't have a loop either...but I'm sure as heck not screwing something into them.



I just put the rubber band all the way around the heel of the shoe and ignore the loop that's there. I use that loop to pull the shoe on later but not for the rubber band

2011-04-15 10:45 AM
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DanielG - 2011-04-15 4:39 AM
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dotharunningman - 2011-04-14 10:49 AM Before I got tri shoes with a loop on the back a used eye screws to attach the rubber bands to the rear quick release and where the front derailleur attaches to the frame.

Wait....where does this "eye screw" actually go?  In your shoe?  My tri shoes don't have a loop either...but I'm sure as heck not screwing something into them.

I just put the rubber band all the way around the heel of the shoe and ignore the loop that's there. I use that loop to pull the shoe on later but not for the rubber band

Sorry Dan...not to beat a dead horse here...but do you mean across the foot opening?  Doesn't the rubber band get caught inside the shoe when you put your foot in it?

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DanielG - 2011-04-12 12:24 PM Okay, this is a whole series of what not to do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjqEogQtVQ0&feature=related[/QUO... it just me, or did it seem like the fancier the bike, the worse the mount?

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Just yesterday I saw a kid with baggy jeans and workbooks execute a flawless flying mount on his K-Mart special. He was off the bike at a light. Light turns green, he starts running across the intersection with his bike, then just swings his leg over, hops on, and pedals away. I almost applauded.


2011-04-15 1:23 PM
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bryancd - 2011-04-12 4:43 PM For the record, I do NOT do a flying mount, I do what was mentioned above, step over the top tube and put my foot on the top of right side shoe and push off and get going.


I find it hard to take seriously the advice from a guy who has "uncorrected" issues with heel striking Tongue out
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mrbbrad - 2011-04-15 11:22 AM Just yesterday I saw a kid with baggy jeans and workbooks execute a flawless flying mount on his K-Mart special. He was off the bike at a light. Light turns green, he starts running across the intersection with his bike, then just swings his leg over, hops on, and pedals away. I almost applauded.


Truth be told, I used to do "flying mounts" and "flying dismounts" with my bike all the time as a kid. When I started triathlons a few years ago, I just did what I used to do way back when (except for the having the shoes on the bike part).
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