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2011-05-01 2:44 PM

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Subject: anyone use golden cheetah?

want to learn what a few of the metrics are but have a hard time finding places...ie

xpower

bikescore

daniels points

 

anywhere i can read about these that are not written for a rocket scientist?

2011-05-01 4:50 PM
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Bikescore and xPower are similar to TSS and NP and were developed by Dr. Phil Skiba. They give slightly different results than one would get in WKO+ but the differences tend to be small. You can read about them in Skiba's books which are available on his website.

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2011-05-01 7:55 PM
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gsmacleod - 2011-05-01 4:50 PM Bikescore and xPower are similar to TSS and NP and were developed by Dr. Phil Skiba. They give slightly different results than one would get in WKO+ but the differences tend to be small. You can read about them in Skiba's books which are available on his website. Shane

 

shane thanks, a friend showed me an article on xpower so i am understanding that now.  bikescore need a little more.

 

loving GC...very good software.  this is comming from someone that used WKO+

2011-05-01 8:25 PM
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I use sex panther by Odeon. It illegal in nine countries.
2011-05-01 11:13 PM
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cardenas1 - 2011-05-01 8:25 PM I use sex panther by Odeon. It illegal in nine countries.

 

i heard that 60% of the time it works every time

2011-05-02 8:33 AM
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funny.....

2011-05-02 8:40 AM
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This pdf from Skiba's website tells the relationship of xpower to bikescore and how both are derived and the underlying theory.
2011-05-02 8:48 AM
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thanks, this pdf is great.
2011-05-02 8:50 AM
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trix - 2011-05-01 9:55 PM

shane thanks, a friend showed me an article on xpower so i am understanding that now.  bikescore need a little more.

 

loving GC...very good software.  this is comming from someone that used WKO+



Depending on how indepth you want to get, you can actually find the algorithims for xPower and Bikescore. I think that there is also a Powerpoint that goes through the details of each and while it includes the calcuations, does a more hand waving approach to the proof of concept.

http://www.physfarm.com/bikescore.pdf

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2011-05-02 9:52 AM
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gsmacleod - 2011-05-02 8:50 AM
trix - 2011-05-01 9:55 PM shane thanks, a friend showed me an article on xpower so i am understanding that now.  bikescore need a little more.

 

loving GC...very good software.  this is comming from someone that used WKO+

Depending on how indepth you want to get, you can actually find the algorithims for xPower and Bikescore. I think that there is also a Powerpoint that goes through the details of each and while it includes the calcuations, does a more hand waving approach to the proof of concept. http://www.physfarm.com/bikescore.pdfShane

i simply want to understand that is all.  i used wko+ for 8 months but my pc fried.  for about 3 months i have used GC....but now i want to understand the numbers little better.

i understood TSS, NP, iv...but with these new terms i wasn't sure if they were completely different or what. 

GC is the bomb.  the critical power curve, the histogram and aero lab are great tools.  i love the ad-hoc reporting you can also create.  love that i can track my 20 min and 60 min power for the last 6 months.

2011-05-02 11:27 AM
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trix - 2011-05-02 11:52 AM

i understood TSS, NP, iv...but with these new terms i wasn't sure if they were completely different or what.


If you were good with TSS, NP and VI, then I would say that you are all set. I use a combo of GC, WKO+ and RaceDay (depending on what the athlete uses and what info I would like to tease out of the data) and while there are small differences between TSS/BikeScore and NP/xPower, I can't recall any instance where I saw a meaningful difference in the numbers.

Shane

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