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2011-05-31 4:27 PM

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Subject: Grease mark on leg - badge of honor?

I can't seem to get within 5 feet of my bike without a black streak of grease finding it's way to my leg in some fashion or another.
Twice a week, I have been using tri-lube and a rag to lube and loosen up/remove the black gunk on the chain and gears which has helped a bit.  When you look at the bike hardware it actually doesn't look that dirty, but my legs always say otherwise.  Does anyone else struggle with this, or am I just special?  I had purchased my road bike used and don't know if the black gunk is from the previous owner or my riding without cleaning it regularly.

 

On that note, how do you remove said gunk marks from your legs?  I was using a pumice stone or apricot scrub but that tore up the skin terribly, and more recently have found better, but not 100%, success using pond's soap (makeup remover).

Thanks for your input!



2011-05-31 4:39 PM
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2011-05-31 4:43 PM
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Subject: RE: Grease mark on leg - badge of honor?

Use Goop - Auto Zone / Peep Boys

I was out riding with my daughters this weekend and the one said she had thought about getting a tattoo her calf in the same pattern the chain left. Since she always has it there anyway.

2011-05-31 4:44 PM
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Subject: RE: Grease mark on leg - badge of honor?
My LBS calls that a "Cat 5 tatoo" not sure if they're denigrating the cycling skills or the bike maintenance practices. I'm not familiar with the lube you're using, but are you wiping it down enough? My lube stresses that you can't overwipe.
2011-05-31 4:45 PM
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The easiest way to avoid grease marks is to keep your chain clean.  A good degreaser, and being thourough when cleaning your chain, chainrings, cassette, and rear deraileur will take all that grease off completely. 

The key is when you re-apply the chain lube.  You should apply it liberally, getting lube into each link and let it sit there so the lube can make it's way into the pins.  But after that, you should run your chain through a cloth to get all the excess lube off your chain...because that's what the dirt is sticking to and causing your chain to get black.  You don't need lube on the outside of your chain...you need it inside where the pins are...where the chain "pivots".

2011-05-31 4:48 PM
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Subject: RE: Grease mark on leg - badge of honor?

the bear - 2011-05-31 4:44 PM My LBS calls that a "Cat 5 tatoo" not sure if they're denigrating the cycling skills or the bike maintenance practices. I'm not familiar with the lube you're using, but are you wiping it down enough? My lube stresses that you can't overwipe.

yup-that's intended as a playfull put down.



2011-05-31 4:57 PM
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A chain ring grease tatoo on your calf is NOT a badge of honor.

Buy a Park Tool cyclone chain cleaner and a good degreaser..  Simple green is cheap and works well.  Dilute it and apply wherever needed on your bike.  Use full strenght in the cyclone chain cleaner.  Get a good cassette brush and clean the gunk from the cassette.  Hose the whole thing down and take a clean cloth and run the chain through it until there is no more black.  Make sure to get the gunk on the teeth of the front rings and the jockey wheels as well. 

Then once it's shinny clean.  Apply a synthetic lube... I use Purple Extreme.  Apply a tiny amount ONLY on the bushing of each link.  Then run the whole chain back through a dry cloth to wipe off excess.  Letting it dry overnight is best.  I can swipe my finger along my chain and have no grime on my finger. 

A shinny chain on a sparkling cassette IS a badge of honor.

 

2011-05-31 9:54 PM
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Subject: RE: Grease mark on leg - badge of honor?

I was told that was called a "rookie tat."  Not sure, but I always wipe it off.  Oh, and then clean my chain really well.

jami

2011-05-31 10:09 PM
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Subject: RE: Grease mark on leg - badge of honor?

This spring has been so wet there's no way I can keep the drivetrain anywhere near clean without making it my life's work. 

I tell myself it doesn't have to be showroom clean to avoid excessive wear.

2011-06-01 8:22 AM
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Subject: RE: Grease mark on leg - badge of honor?
bluebike - 2011-05-31 4:57 PM

A chain ring grease tatoo on your calf is NOT a badge of honor.

Buy a Park Tool cyclone chain cleaner and a good degreaser..  Simple green is cheap and works well.  Dilute it and apply wherever needed on your bike.  Use full strenght in the cyclone chain cleaner.  Get a good cassette brush and clean the gunk from the cassette.  Hose the whole thing down and take a clean cloth and run the chain through it until there is no more black.  Make sure to get the gunk on the teeth of the front rings and the jockey wheels as well. 

Then once it's shinny clean.  Apply a synthetic lube... I use Purple Extreme.  Apply a tiny amount ONLY on the bushing of each link.  Then run the whole chain back through a dry cloth to wipe off excess.  Letting it dry overnight is best.  I can swipe my finger along my chain and have no grime on my finger. 

A shinny chain on a sparkling cassette IS a badge of honor.

 

If this was a requirement, I would quit cycling altogether.
2011-06-01 8:31 AM
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Subject: RE: Grease mark on leg - badge of honor?

My wife gets one every single time she rides.  I finally decided to tear down the entire drive train and clean every single part by hand.  It was glimmering.

We did a 75 mile ride.  At the end of the ride she a (albeit faint) mark on the back of her calf

You can never keep a drive train perfectly clean.



2011-06-01 8:57 AM
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Subject: RE: Grease mark on leg - badge of honor?
I have this problem with one particular bike.    From the first day I owned it, honestly, it left a mark.  Okay, yes, it's extra dirty these days... but for some reason it still happens.

Any sort of degreaser would work. I used the stuff I wash my face with (a degreaser, not a mild soap) or dishsoap.  I used a paper towel for some rubbing action.    I haven't found it to be that difficult to get off, so perhaps you have very sensitive skin. 
2011-06-01 9:20 AM
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Subject: RE: Grease mark on leg - badge of honor?
jdotten - 2011-05-31 10:54 PM

I was told that was called a "rookie tat."  Not sure, but I always wipe it off.  Oh, and then clean my chain really well.

jami

Yeah, I've heard it called a newbie tat.

2011-06-01 9:24 AM
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Subject: RE: Grease mark on leg - badge of honor?
Called Cat5 tat here and pretty much the opposite of badge of honor. Just don't lean up against the cranks and chains and you'll be fine.
2011-06-01 9:30 AM
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Subject: RE: Grease mark on leg - badge of honor?
Having not read the replies, I'd say it's a badge of being a newb, not a badge of honor.
2011-06-01 9:33 AM
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BikerGrrrl - 2011-06-01 9:57 AM

Any sort of degreaser would work.

MOST degreasers will work.  Read the bottle first however.  For example if you use Greased Lightning it is NOT safe for aluminum.



2011-06-01 9:40 AM
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2011-06-01 10:11 AM
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Subject: RE: Grease mark on leg - badge of honor?
I am glad you said this.  I was referring to removing the grease from my leg, not to fix the bike.  I hope no one is outside right now cleaning their bike with facial cleansers!!

TriRSquared - 2011-06-01 9:33 AM

BikerGrrrl - 2011-06-01 9:57 AM

Any sort of degreaser would work.

MOST degreasers will work.  Read the bottle first however.  For example if you use Greased Lightning it is NOT safe for aluminum.

2011-06-01 10:16 AM
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Subject: RE: Grease mark on leg - badge of honor?
Well I have been riding for ten years now and my husband always says that if I don't come how with a grease mark I probably didn't have fun.  This has been an ongoing joke.  I do keep my bike clean and have even taken it to be cleaned at the bike shop, but never fail it is always there.  I just enjoy it, have a laugh, and move on. 
2011-06-01 10:34 AM
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Subject: RE: Grease mark on leg - badge of honor?

If your bike is new, or it is a new chain, it comes with a ton of grease on the chain. Clean that off. WD-40 works well, and degreaser. If you don't, all you will do is have a ton of grease on your chain and loosen it up every time you lube.

If you live in wet you need to use wet lube. Apply it regular, but wipe off excess. You should not have a tone of crap on the chain all the time. And you should therefore not have a ton of crap built up on the chainring to wipe off on your leg.

If you live in dry climate, use dry lube. If you do, then you can use the best thing since spoke.... White Lightening. Liquid based wax. Used it for 15 years now. I can grab any chain I have and not get dirty.

2011-06-01 10:42 AM
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Subject: RE: Grease mark on leg - badge of honor?
BikerGrrrl - 2011-06-01 11:11 AM I am glad you said this.  I was referring to removing the grease from my leg, not to fix the bike.  I hope no one is outside right now cleaning their bike with facial cleansers!!

TriRSquared - 2011-06-01 9:33 AM

BikerGrrrl - 2011-06-01 9:57 AM

Any sort of degreaser would work.

MOST degreasers will work.  Read the bottle first however.  For example if you use Greased Lightning it is NOT safe for aluminum.

Ha!  Sorry, missed that...



2011-06-01 11:07 AM
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Subject: RE: Grease mark on leg - badge of honor?

I think I'm older than a lot of you, because we called them Cat 4 tattoos (Cat 5 wasn't around yet). Now just rookie marks to me as I'm not involved with USCF any longer.

I agree that they are not a badge of honor, just a sign of a dirty chain and bad bike handling skills.

2011-06-01 11:28 AM
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powerman - 2011-06-01 8:34 AM

If your bike is new, or it is a new chain, it comes with a ton of grease on the chain. Clean that off. WD-40 works well, and degreaser. If you don't, all you will do is have a ton of grease on your chain and loosen it up every time you lube.

If you live in wet you need to use wet lube. Apply it regular, but wipe off excess. You should not have a tone of crap on the chain all the time. And you should therefore not have a ton of crap built up on the chainring to wipe off on your leg.

If you live in dry climate, use dry lube. If you do, then you can use the best thing since spoke.... White Lightening. Liquid based wax. Used it for 15 years now. I can grab any chain I have and not get dirty.

Caution. WD-40 is a powerful solvent and might be useful for cleaning, but it is not a sufficient lubricant for a bike chain.  ?And the factory lube on a new chain is better than anything you would put on it.  Most new chains have a sort of wax lubricant that is quite dry and picks up very little road grime.  You can put on a brand new chain and ride it immediatly.  You do not need to degrease a brand new chain.

2011-06-01 12:38 PM
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Subject: RE: Grease mark on leg - badge of honor?
TriRSquared - 2011-06-01 10:33 AM

BikerGrrrl - 2011-06-01 9:57 AM

Any sort of degreaser would work.

MOST degreasers will work.  Read the bottle first however.  For example if you use Greased Lightning it is NOT safe for aluminum.

Interesting.  I think that's actually what I've been using.  I have to go back and check the bottle now.

Grease mark on leg = not a badge of honor.

Scar on my leg from falling during race and having chain ring dig into calf = badge of honor (at least IMO)

2011-06-01 1:03 PM
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Subject: RE: Grease mark on leg - badge of honor?
bluebike - 2011-06-01 10:28 AM

Caution. WD-40 is a powerful solvent and might be useful for cleaning, but it is not a sufficient lubricant for a bike chain.  ?And the factory lube on a new chain is better than anything you would put on it.  Most new chains have a sort of wax lubricant that is quite dry and picks up very little road grime.  You can put on a brand new chain and ride it immediatly.  You do not need to degrease a brand new chain.

I said to use WD-40 as a cleaner, I later said what to lube with. I usually just use my jar of paint thinner, then soap, then dry, then lube.

Every new chain I have ever had was packed in heavy thick grease. Some may like that, I don't. Nothing but a HUGE dirt magnet. As I also stated I use a dry wax lube and there is no need for the grease.... hence the cleaning. YMMV

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