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2011-06-03 9:51 AM

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Subject: Close call and lesson learned

Figured I'd share this with you guys. 

I went for my first 40 miler this morning and 5 miles into the ride I was going down a decent curving hill at around 38mph.  I was spinning out pretty good and I felt like I wasn't in the highest gear for some reason.  So I look back at my rear sprocket and sure enough I'm in the highest gear, so no big deal.  Next thing you know I look back up and I'm heading straight off the road at 40mph on the highway on my aero bars.   crap crap crap was uttered several times.  As I'm flying down into the ditch I managed to get my right hand over to the brakes and locked up the rear wheel and it was full on mountain bike mode jumping debree, bunny hop the big rock, dodge the huge hole, etc... and finally came to a stop. (right side up)  I even managed to clip out and get my feet down.

My Aero box on my Trek SC popped open and my tools and tire repair stuff got launched to the seven seas.  It took me a good 10 minutes to find everything.  Fortunately the grass was only about 6 inches high so I was able to find it all.  Also, I was amazed at how durable my Trek was, I figured for sure I broke something because I caught some serious air on a few of those jumps.

No damage whatsoever to anything, so I was able to finish out my ride and learned a huge lesson without any damage/injury.  Don't ever take your eyes off the road, especially when your going 40mph!!!

2011-06-03 9:54 AM
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Did you have a change of shorts with you or did you have to ride home in it? Laughing
2011-06-03 10:08 AM
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I've had a couple close calls involving quick turns and gravel.  Quick way to get the heart rate up but nothing off road like you!
2011-06-03 10:26 AM
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JBarwick - 2011-06-03 10:08 AM I've had a couple close calls involving quick turns and gravel.  Quick way to get the heart rate up but nothing off road like you!

that just reminded me that I had my GPS on when it happened.  I did catch a nice little heart rate spike when it happened.  Green line (elevation) Blue line (speed) red line (HR)

2011-06-03 10:34 AM
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You might want to check and make sure your wheels are still true.
2011-06-03 10:44 AM
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bikeday - 2011-06-03 10:34 AM You might want to check and make sure your wheels are still true.

I did give them an eyeball look as best I could and they seemed to be running true.  I get free tune ups for the year from my LBS where I bought it, so I might have them check them out as well.

2011-06-03 11:23 AM
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tuwood - 2011-06-03 10:51 AM   crap crap crap was uttered several times. 

 

Edited for public consumption, I'm sure!  Laughing

 

Glad you're OK and your bike too. 

2011-06-03 11:40 AM
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tuwood - 2011-06-03 8:26 AM

JBarwick - 2011-06-03 10:08 AM I've had a couple close calls involving quick turns and gravel.  Quick way to get the heart rate up but nothing off road like you!

that just reminded me that I had my GPS on when it happened.  I did catch a nice little heart rate spike when it happened.  Green line (elevation) Blue line (speed) red line (HR)

And for anyone that trains by HR zones, this graph is a perfect example of why HR is not that great a metric to use. Notice that the HR spike STARTS when he is already stopped, and continues up while he is presumably searching for gear. Don't use a lagging metric to gauge current efforts.

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2011-06-03 1:43 PM
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And for anyone that trains by HR zones, this graph is a perfect example of why HR is not that great a metric to use. Notice that the HR spike STARTS when he is already stopped, and continues up while he is presumably searching for gear. Don't use a lagging metric to gauge current efforts.

John

+1000

2011-06-03 1:57 PM
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sniper100 - 2011-06-03 1:43 PM

And for anyone that trains by HR zones, this graph is a perfect example of why HR is not that great a metric to use. Notice that the HR spike STARTS when he is already stopped, and continues up while he is presumably searching for gear. Don't use a lagging metric to gauge current efforts.

John

+1000

 

So for either one of you, what do you train by?  Perceived effort?  This is the first I've heard of not using the HR, but your point does seem to make some sense to me.

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2011-06-03 2:18 PM
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just for clarification/accuracy I stopped my watch/HRM when I started searching for my stuff. Then started it when I took off again 5-10 minutes later (that's the big HR spike down)  But you are absolutely correct that my HR went up as I was slowing down.  I'm sure 100% driven by adrenalin.

I really want to train with power, but I'm still recovering from the beat down I got from my wife on the bike purchase last month.    Might have to wait for next season for a power tap.

2011-06-03 2:31 PM
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Glad you're okay,  I think we all have the lapse where we look elsewhere and misdirect our bikes off the road. 
2011-06-03 4:19 PM
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prbf36 - 2011-06-03 11:57 AM
sniper100 - 2011-06-03 1:43 PM

And for anyone that trains by HR zones, this graph is a perfect example of why HR is not that great a metric to use. Notice that the HR spike STARTS when he is already stopped, and continues up while he is presumably searching for gear. Don't use a lagging metric to gauge current efforts.

John

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So for either one of you, what do you train by?  Perceived effort?  This is the first I've heard of not using the HR, but your point does seem to make some sense to me.

RPE. HR as a general trend after the workout can be a valuable tool, but about the only time I'll even pay attention to it is when I'm doing running intervals, or I'll take it immediately after a run to see where I'm at.

There are just way too many variables that can affect HR for me to use it to gauge my training.

But, you're also talking to someone that is very old school. The only electronics I use are a watch with split timer and a cateye cyclocomputer. When I can afford it, I'm thinking about a PM, but that's about it.

If you read some of my posts, I'm a huge advocate of learning to train without gadgets, and learning to listen to what your body is telling you.

John

2011-06-03 6:53 PM
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tuwood - 2011-06-03 10:51 AM

Figured I'd share this with you guys. 

I went for my first 40 miler this morning and 5 miles into the ride I was going down a decent curving hill at around 38mph.  I was spinning out pretty good and I felt like I wasn't in the highest gear for some reason.  So I look back at my rear sprocket and sure enough I'm in the highest gear, so no big deal.  Next thing you know I look back up and I'm heading straight off the road at 40mph on the highway on my aero bars.   crap crap crap was uttered several times.  As I'm flying down into the ditch I managed to get my right hand over to the brakes and locked up the rear wheel and it was full on mountain bike mode jumping debree, bunny hop the big rock, dodge the huge hole, etc... and finally came to a stop. (right side up)  I even managed to clip out and get my feet down.

My Aero box on my Trek SC popped open and my tools and tire repair stuff got launched to the seven seas.  It took me a good 10 minutes to find everything.  Fortunately the grass was only about 6 inches high so I was able to find it all.  Also, I was amazed at how durable my Trek was, I figured for sure I broke something because I caught some serious air on a few of those jumps.

No damage whatsoever to anything, so I was able to finish out my ride and learned a huge lesson without any damage/injury.  Don't ever take your eyes off the road, especially when your going 40mph!!!

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