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2011-06-30 12:33 PM
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Subject: RE: Question for those who own a road and Tri bike

Do you think you're going to get enough $$$ out of selling a used road bike to make it worth offsetting you giving up the flexibity of having 2 bikes??  Maybe you will...but I'd hate to give up my road bike and be left with just my tri bike.



2011-06-30 12:35 PM
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i have a tri bike and road bike.

i ride the road bike more.

2011-06-30 12:38 PM
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Subject: RE: Question for those who own a road and Tri bike
Leegoocrap - 2011-06-30 10:26 AM
brucemorgan - 2011-06-30 11:11 AM

I have no concerns at all riding my road bike in traffic, large groups, small groups, etc.  Handling, position, comfort are all fine.  For those of you who have problems with tri bike comfort and handling, you have a problem to solve.  Tri bikes shouldn't be less comfortable and handle worse than road bikes.  Different, yes, but not in a bad way.

If your tri bike isn't a bit uncomfortable, you've got a some low hanging fruit to pick IMO... that or your road bike position looks like Greg LeMond's.

And not having immediate access to your brakes is a "real" issue... maybe not one that comes up often, but it's there. 1-2 seconds can be a lifetime in an emergency situation. Just saying.

 

agreed with chris, and because i know what he is doing.

most people have a crappy tt position that is inefficient.  i just had a friend riding with me at 280 watts ave only 22 mph.  he is about my size.  i can do this with about 50 watts less. 

there is alot of misinformation and tt position in not really the most comfortable thing.  so in order to put up with it you got to do some riding in it. 

2011-06-30 12:43 PM
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2011-06-30 12:55 PM
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Birkierunner - 2011-06-30 10:33 AM

Do you think you're going to get enough $$$ out of selling a used road bike to make it worth offsetting you giving up the flexibity of having 2 bikes??  Maybe you will...but I'd hate to give up my road bike and be left with just my tri bike.

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I would have skipped getting the TT bike if it meant selling the road bike first! 

For me, the difference between the two bikes in traffic isn't only the position of the brakes as much as it is MY position.  In aero, my visibility is so limited!  I don't know about everyone else, but my TT bike is not very comfortable on the horns for more than a minute or two at a time.  If I can't (or don't want to) be in aero for most of the ride, I don't ride the TT bike.



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2011-06-30 1:00 PM
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Thanks for all the responses. It seems like everyone is split down the middle and it is just personal preference.  

 

I think I will keep the my road bike and look at getting a TT bike early next season. Then if i don't ride my road bke that much i will look into selling it then.

 

Thanks



2011-06-30 1:05 PM
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DLR1 - 2011-06-30 12:00 PM

Thanks for all the responses. It seems like everyone is split down the middle and it is just personal preference.  

 

I think I will keep the my road bike and look at getting a TT bike early next season. Then if i don't ride my road bke that much i will look into selling it then.

 

Thanks

Good call. Like Birkie said, the used bike market isn't the best place to get your money back. You will definitely take a hit selling a used bike, probably better to save and keep both bikes.

 

2011-06-30 1:18 PM
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90%+ on road bike but I ride 90%+ with a cycling group.

I find the road bike much more versatile...but I predominantly do short course racing (Sprints/Olys - probably 1 HIM a year).

I ride my TT bike on the trainer and when I get close to races just to get used to the handling.

The scariest group ride I've ever done was a bunch of triathletes on TT bikes (20+).  In a small group with experienced cyclists, it's not a big deal, but in a group of mixed experience/abilities, it's absolutely silly what some people were doing  like being down on their aerobars going downhill in a middle of a pack, and a few almost caused a crash (first downhill turn, several ran wide - one of which forced me to go straight).

If you're a 'train-by-yourself' kind of person and never does group rides, I don't think it matters, but if you ride with groups a lot (like me), the road bike is much more versatile and I feel that I'm not giving away more than about 1mph at worst.



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2011-06-30 2:39 PM
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Subject: RE: Question for those who own a road and Tri bike
trotpntbll - 2011-06-30 12:43 PM
trix - 2011-06-30 1:38 PM
Leegoocrap - 2011-06-30 10:26 AM
brucemorgan - 2011-06-30 11:11 AM

I have no concerns at all riding my road bike in traffic, large groups, small groups, etc.  Handling, position, comfort are all fine.  For those of you who have problems with tri bike comfort and handling, you have a problem to solve.  Tri bikes shouldn't be less comfortable and handle worse than road bikes.  Different, yes, but not in a bad way.

If your tri bike isn't a bit uncomfortable, you've got a some low hanging fruit to pick IMO... that or your road bike position looks like Greg LeMond's.

And not having immediate access to your brakes is a "real" issue... maybe not one that comes up often, but it's there. 1-2 seconds can be a lifetime in an emergency situation. Just saying.

 

agreed with chris, and because i know what he is doing.

most people have a crappy tt position that is inefficient.  i just had a friend riding with me at 280 watts ave only 22 mph.  he is about my size.  i can do this with about 50 watts less. 

there is alot of misinformation and tt position in not really the most comfortable thing.  so in order to put up with it you got to do some riding in it. 

Not to get off topic, but how big is he?! I've netted over 22mph on 195W (NP:199), aero helmet on my P2. My FTP (236) only puts me at 3.28w/kg. Something doesn't add up there!

 

no worries he already has retul fitting scheduled next week.    he is my size about 6'1 168-170. 

2011-06-30 7:41 PM
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Subject: RE: Question for those who own a road and Tri bike
trotpntbll - 2011-06-30 10:31 AM

briderdt - 2011-06-30 10:16 AM My road bikes get FAR more use than my TT/Tri bikes. Mostly a matter comfort and utility -- I'm just more maneuverable on the roadie and feel better in traffic on it than my tri bike.

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My TT setup is set so aggressively I'm not a fan of riding it other than on rollers, the days leading up to a race, or a race.

brucemorgan - 2011-06-30 11:11 AM

For those of you who have problems with tri bike comfort and handling, you have a problem to solve.  Tri bikes shouldn't be less comfortable and handle worse than road bikes. 

So you are telling me, at 20mph+, you can handle better on your TT as opposed to a road bike? If you are in a slippery position, I just don't see how this is possible. Look at the positions of some of the top TTers, a poster on here Dave Lucason (think there may be a spelling error), there is no way you have the visionary field, or weight distribution to react if someone cuts you off. On a road bike you at least have a chance. TT bikes are pretty awful on descents as well. I just don't see your comment adds up.

Again, my answer will be that handling and comfort are on a spectrum. 

You can go right ahead and set up your tri bike such that that you have a reduced field of vision and weight distribution that impacts your reaction time, but it's very aero and fast.  I wouldn't take that out on the road except during a closed-course race.  Or you can make it a bit less aggressive but safer for riding down the road.

That's how I set up my tri bike.  Not as aggressive as some, not as slack as others.  And yes it handles just as well as my road bike at 20mph, on or off the aerobars. And it's certainly a lot more stable at 40 mph on a downhill on the aerobars than my road bike with clip-ons ever was.

2011-06-30 8:01 PM
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2011-06-30 8:12 PM
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Ride my road bike almost for all my training rides. I normally only ride my TT bike the week of a race to keep the feel for it and do some tests.
2011-06-30 8:46 PM
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Subject: RE: Question for those who own a road and Tri bike
trotpntbll - 2011-06-30 6:01 PM

I had an over the handlebar crash on my road bike last year avoiding a car that cut me off. I managed to lock the brakes and shift enough weight to launch myself into the grass off the road (just missing some huge rocks). I was on my road bike, my hands were on the hoods, and the ability to attempt to stop/move was there. There is no way, zero, I would have been able to react had I been in aero. I would have been face first through a rear windshield or knee deep in a rear bumper.

To the OP. If it were me, and I were in your shoes (my opinion), I'd hold on to your current bike and pick up another when you get the chance. IMO, the ability to do a wide spectrum of rides by having both a road and TT bike, is worth the investment.

I'm glad your crash wasn't as bad as it could have been, but I feel compelled to point out the difference was aero position vs. not aero position, not tri bike vs. road bike. 

If you were riding aero on a road bike's clip-ons, then you'd have the been in the same world of trouble.  Riding aero (road or tri bike) can be very problematic if you need those brakes...

I realize some tri bikes are set up such that riding on the horns is very uncomfortable.  Mine used to be, I bought a new base bar, problem solved.  I don't ride it aero unless I feel it's safe to do so.

And I agree - the best answer to "road or tri bike" is BOTH.

 

2011-07-01 9:18 AM
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Subject: RE: Question for those who own a road and Tri bike
DLR1 - 2011-06-30 8:07 AM

I used to ride group rides at least once a week. But do to time I usually start my rides earlier than the local group rides. If I ride with anyone we usually dont draft or I do the pulling (since i can't draft in tri's anyway).

I live in NW Ohio so its really flat, my biggest mountain is a bridge.

I don't really want to sell my road bike but I'm afraid I would not ride it very often.  With 2 young kids and tri training I'm lucky to get out 2 and sometimes 3 days per week to ride. I already have a high end mountain bike that only gets used 2-3 times a year when I find time to leave town to ride.

 

Right now you may not need a roadie & a TT bike, but what about next year or the year after?  I have a roadie, TT, CX, full suspension mtn and hardtail mtn and wouldn't give up any of them.  I buy used so that has probably averaged 50% off the price of new -- maybe you can afford to have both.

2011-07-01 9:37 AM
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My tri bike gets more use, but my main focus right now is IM training.  Next year I will probably ride the roadie, I love both of them!
2011-07-01 10:29 AM
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DLR1 - 2011-06-30 7:51 AM

Which bike gets more use?

Also anyone ever sell their road bike for a tri bike then wished they had not?

 

I ride them about equally, as well as spending time on my MTB. It's all good. In fact I rode both the tri and road bike on the same ride a few days ago. I let a friend use one and we swapped halfway through the ride.

What's this about selling a bike? I've never sold a bike. My garage is full of bikes. I have 5, my son has 3, and my wife has 2. Can't ever have too many bikes! ;-)



2011-07-01 9:30 PM
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Subject: RE: Question for those who own a road and Tri bike

I have 3 bikes and a studio apt. ha

The TT bike I take out for long rides and use it on the trainer 2 times a week.

 

The roadie goes out Sun mornings for my 20 miles trip hill climb and sprint intervals.

 

My commuter goes from home to work, 3 miles round trip.  And that in Los Angeles is worth its weight in gold!

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