New Triathlon Series-HITS
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2011-07-01 9:23 AM |
Expert 1358 Albuquerque, New Mexico | Subject: New Triathlon Series-HITS I stumbled upon a race in Galena, IL in the race listing when I was adding a couple to my calendar. Looking at the website, it appears they have a full schedule all over the country (starting in winter of 2011) and their trademark is "a distance for everyone." Indeed, they offer 5 distances from Supersprint (they are calling it "open") to full Iron distance. Apparently the company puts on equestrian events and is making the move into triathlon. The most interesting part is that the "open" distance is free. Sort of thought it was interesting given the recent thread about barriers to entry (whatever your opinion is). I didn't post in that thread, but I did think some sort of free "hit" of triathlon was a possibility. And here it is. Anyway, here is the link. I would love to hear if anyone knows anything about this company, this series, or the folks behind it. Edited by quincyf 2011-07-01 9:24 AM |
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2011-07-01 9:30 AM in reply to: #3576575 |
Champion 19812 MA | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS It's an interesting concept. Back maybe 5 years ago another totally separate company came up with a series that was a distance between HIM and IM in a few different locations. After a couple of the races that didn't go very smoothly they pulled the plug and canceled the remaining races including the championship. Another race company that puts on quality races would be great. Seems like an awful big task to put on 12 first time events in 12 months each with HIM and IM distance races. I hope it works out. |
2011-07-01 10:18 AM in reply to: #3576575 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS Very interesting. I hope they can pull it off, but 12 independant iron distance races by themselevs seem tough to do. Maybe the rest of the weekend events cover the costs of that? I'll keep an eye on it. A race at Hunter Mtn. in June sounds MUCH better than IMNYC in August to me. |
2011-07-01 10:24 AM in reply to: #3576575 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS Interesting that they are looking to do another Tri in Galena. Not that I'm complaining. Hope it doesn't drain attendance at the other. Also interesting that they are doing it in Lake Galena. That will be ONE hilly IM for this neck of the woods. Interested to see what the course is like when they post it. Edited by crowny2 2011-07-01 10:24 AM |
2011-07-01 10:33 AM in reply to: #3576575 |
Regular 73 | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS Did you notice that their time cut-offs for the full are a little tighter? 2-hr swim, 10-hr bike, 16-hr total. I think that Galena race would be a bear - very, very, hilly (IMO). Cool, though. I hope they have success with it. |
2011-07-01 10:41 AM in reply to: #3576745 |
Expert 1358 Albuquerque, New Mexico | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS crowny2 - 2011-07-01 10:24 AM Interesting that they are looking to do another Tri in Galena. Not that I'm complaining. Hope it doesn't drain attendance at the other. Also interesting that they are doing it in Lake Galena. That will be ONE hilly IM for this neck of the woods. Interested to see what the course is like when they post it. I don't think it will drain attendance...they wisely chose July...it can work as an HIM to prep for IMOO, and it also fills the July gap in the Chicago area...maybe I'm wrong, but July seems a bit light on shorter distance races. Galena Triathlon is such an early season tri, and a lot of folks don't do it for their first one because of the hills and point to point structure... I just wonder if it will go the way of Lake Geneva...great venue, but trying to do too many distances and get a bad reputation... And I agree about the hills...got a bit shaky just thinking about it, haha. @Johnnykay...they seem to have been very careful in picking their venues...part of the business model perhaps? |
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2011-07-01 10:44 AM in reply to: #3576795 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS quincyf - 2011-07-01 10:41 AM crowny2 - 2011-07-01 10:24 AM Interesting that they are looking to do another Tri in Galena. Not that I'm complaining. Hope it doesn't drain attendance at the other. Also interesting that they are doing it in Lake Galena. That will be ONE hilly IM for this neck of the woods. Interested to see what the course is like when they post it. I don't think it will drain attendance...they wisely chose July...it can work as an HIM to prep for IMOO, and it also fills the July gap in the Chicago area...maybe I'm wrong, but July seems a bit light on shorter distance races. Galena Triathlon is such an early season tri, and a lot of folks don't do it for their first one because of the hills and point to point structure... I just wonder if it will go the way of Lake Geneva...great venue, but trying to do too many distances and get a bad reputation... And I agree about the hills...got a bit shaky just thinking about it, haha. @Johnnykay...they seem to have been very careful in picking their venues...part of the business model perhaps? Great point! Here I am trying to find a race in July and they are proposing it. At least the water has a greater chance of being much warmer. |
2011-07-01 10:44 AM in reply to: #3576767 |
Expert 1358 Albuquerque, New Mexico | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS valpodad - 2011-07-01 10:33 AM Did you notice that their time cut-offs for the full are a little tighter? 2-hr swim, 10-hr bike, 16-hr total. I think that Galena race would be a bear - very, very, hilly (IMO). Cool, though. I hope they have success with it. NO, I didn't notice the cutoffs! But now that I look, not only are the Iron cutoffs tighter, there are cutoffs for every single distance except the open! Hmm, interesting. Definitely might appeal to some. |
2011-07-01 11:14 AM in reply to: #3576575 |
Champion 19812 MA | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS I emailed them to see if they will offer Aquabike in HIM or IM and they responded no not the first year but may consider offering them in the future. Here are the cut off times from their website. What are the time limits or cutoffs? Swim Bike Run
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2011-07-01 12:25 PM in reply to: #3576575 |
Veteran 266 Kingwood, TX | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS
I like the concept - if the locations are good they may get a good crowd. My family could make it a cool family tri weekend with all the different options. My only worry would be too many events and not enough participants in all. Will have to see what the fees look like to see if we consider the Texas events next year, might make for a cool vacation trip to Corpus Cristi next year. Also I would think all those that regularly bag on WTC could use this opportunity to support another series and hopefully it does not suffer the same fate as the One-O-One did a few years back (although I think that was really a combination of mis-management and interest that killed it). |
2011-07-01 2:07 PM in reply to: #3576575 |
Expert 839 Anaheim Hills, CA | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS Looks interesting and Coachella isn't far away. Did anyone find the fees? I looked through it but couldn't find them. |
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2011-07-01 9:25 PM in reply to: #3577236 |
Member 209 Los Angeles | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS can you imagine racing the desert in the winter? 40 degree morning and a freezing lake. Nov races are bad enough...I'll wait for the RR on the 2011 one before signing up for 2012 |
2011-07-01 11:29 PM in reply to: #3577789 |
Expert 839 Anaheim Hills, CA | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS waupaca11 - 2011-07-01 7:25 PM can you imagine racing the desert in the winter? 40 degree morning and a freezing lake. Nov races are bad enough...I'll wait for the RR on the 2011 one before signing up for 2012
Hadn't thought of that... good point. |
2011-07-02 7:29 AM in reply to: #3576575 |
Regular 132 College Station | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS Another thing to keep in mind is their disclaimer of *race distances may vary by venue* California is the only map they have up and their bike course is 96 miles total. Just something to keep in mind. |
2011-07-26 5:35 PM in reply to: #3577236 |
Veteran 244 Ohio | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS Found this web site while looking for a Oly race in March in FL. Looks like the fees are now on the site.
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2011-07-26 5:54 PM in reply to: #3576599 |
Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS KathyG - 2011-07-01 7:30 AM It's an interesting concept. Back maybe 5 years ago another totally separate company came up with a series that was a distance between HIM and IM in a few different locations. After a couple of the races that didn't go very smoothly they pulled the plug and canceled the remaining races including the championship. Another race company that puts on quality races would be great. Seems like an awful big task to put on 12 first time events in 12 months each with HIM and ALMOST IM distance races. I hope it works out. At least in the So Cal race, people better read the fine print before they sign up for what they think is a full 140.6 IM distance race. Cuz it isn't |
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2011-07-26 6:03 PM in reply to: #3576575 |
Elite 3060 N Carolina | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS As mentioned earlier, the distances are not standard. They are not even standard for all the HITS races. The half and full are not always 70.3 and 140.6. The company has a great reputation in the equestrian world. I predict a failure in this endeavor. The President/CEO of HITS is a triathlete himself. I can see the scenario where he says "I can run successful horse shows, so I should be able to run successful triathlons". Being a business owner myself, I can say that things don't always work out with this line of thinking. |
2011-08-12 12:52 PM in reply to: #3576575 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS So there have been more updates to the website. I was most interested in the Galena triathlon, knowing how hilly it is. Pulled up the bike map and the Oly, HIM and IM share the same course. 1 lap, 2 laps or 4 laps respectively. I put it onto mapmyride and HOLY COW. 3 Category 5 climbs in 1 lap and 1056 feet of elevation gain in the ~22 mile lap. Which means that for those doing the pseudo IM distance you will do 4,200 feet of gain in about 88-90 miles. Now THAT is hilly for the midwest. The third, and hardest climb, is 1.74 miles long with an average grade of 3.2%. Woof. Here is the mapmyride map for those that want to look at it. http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/45769316/?open_ive_done=1 ETA: the third hill is technically longer than that. The 3%+ grade doesn't start till mile 13.05 but you really start to climb at mile 9.9which is at 661 ft and finish at mile 14.8 at 1058 feet for a grand total of 397 feet in 4.9 miles with 290 of those feet coming in the last 1.74 miles. I have to be honest, I'm tempted. Very, VERY tempted. Edited by crowny2 2011-08-12 1:11 PM |
2011-08-12 1:12 PM in reply to: #3616009 |
Champion 9060 Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS japarker24 - 2011-07-26 7:03 PM As mentioned earlier, the distances are not standard. They are not even standard for all the HITS races. The half and full are not always 70.3 and 140.6. The company has a great reputation in the equestrian world. I predict a failure in this endeavor. The President/CEO of HITS is a triathlete himself. I can see the scenario where he says "I can run successful horse shows, so I should be able to run successful triathlons". Being a business owner myself, I can say that things don't always work out with this line of thinking.  But at least they're trying. Seems like a good concept. When my wife was actively showing we used to go to the horse shows in Ocala. They were very well run and while not cheap you got what you paid for, quality product at a premium price. With WTC these days they seem to be living off the name more than providing better service for their athletes for a premium price. That's how Rev3 is making a name for themselves, in some ways they promote being the anti-WTC and I think they get quite a few that race them just for that reason. |
2011-08-12 1:41 PM in reply to: #3576575 |
Regular 244 Jupiter, FL | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS They were clever in the way they chose courses where just by using different lap counts they could create all of the different events, though none are standard distances. It gives everyone an opportunity to race. good concept. let's see how the execution is. |
2011-08-12 7:21 PM in reply to: #3576575 |
Member 473 | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS it looks interesting, what would be a great selling point is if they can come cheap! personally its going to take a lot to get off, it may be just a bit too ambitious to have all these races at once. |
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2011-08-12 8:51 PM in reply to: #3616009 |
Master 2264 Sunbury, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS japarker24 - 2011-07-26 7:03 PM I predict a failure in this endeavor. The President/CEO of HITS is a triathlete himself. I can see the scenario where he says "I can run successful horse shows, so I should be able to run successful triathlons". Being a business owner myself, I can say that things don't always work out with this line of thinking. Anyone remember "Heck of a job Brownie?" That guy ran horse shows too. |
2011-08-13 5:24 AM in reply to: #3576575 |
Pro 4672 Nutmeg State | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS I think its difficult to start a series with multiple distances at the same venue all in the same year. The logistics of running multiple races on the same course at the same time are pretty staggering. If you think back to how Rev 3 launched it was three races in the first year (Knoxville, Quassy and Cedar Point) and then gradual growth from there. I'm assuming they have a large cash backer to roll out in this kind of fashion, I just also hope that they have the right people to make it happen. On the people front, I'm a member of RD and trade organizations in which places list jobs all the time. I've seen job openings for lots of major race production companies but I've never seen a single job posting for HITS. I'm wondering from where they got (or are going to get) their staff. |
2011-08-13 6:30 PM in reply to: #3576575 |
New user 34 Ocala | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS I live in Ocala Florida. HITS stands for "Horses In The Sun". This guy is for real. He runs a month long horse event here that brings in people from all over the world. As far as financial backing.......this guy has money and lots of it. I can guarantee you that these events will be done right. Can't wait till the one here in March. |
2011-08-13 7:31 PM in reply to: #3616009 |
Expert 1233 | Subject: RE: New Triathlon Series-HITS japarker24 - 2011-07-26 7:03 PM As mentioned earlier, the distances are not standard. They are not even standard for all the HITS races. The half and full are not always 70.3 and 140.6. The company has a great reputation in the equestrian world. I predict a failure in this endeavor. The President/CEO of HITS is a triathlete himself. I can see the scenario where he says "I can run successful horse shows, so I should be able to run successful triathlons". Being a business owner myself, I can say that things don't always work out with this line of thinking. I'm going to call you out on this one. Without seeing the business plan, knowing the company's resources, etc, you predict failure? Did he actually say " "I can run successful horse shows, so I should be able to run successful triathlons". ", or is that your opinion? In the context of 'business operations' putting on a triathlon is not high on the difficulty level, they are put on by various organizations all the time. Putting together an organization to run a series, getting a critical mass of participants, having the financial resources to build the brand, kicks the level up a few notches. Just by the little I've read in this thread, the guy seems to have organizational experience. |
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