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2011-07-19 12:58 PM
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Subject: RE: What is the point of fancy wheels and tri bikes
kbeddoes - 2011-07-18 1:01 PM

It's all about what you have to spend on the sport.  If you've got the money and you're competitive, you can do these things.  For me, I train on my 1984 Schwinn LeTour road bike that I found on Craigslist.  For races, I take off the kickstand and the lights Wink

If you're not expecting a podium finish, triathlon is as expensive or inexpensive as you want it to be.

 

 

 

Love it!  I race and train on one bike, a $1,200 cannondale roadie that I got last year, put a fast forward seat post on it and some "clip on" aerobars.  Sure, when people blow past me on their bad- bikes it makes me want one, but then, I realize it's not all about the bike.  Plan on having it for many years. 

If I start to really believe that my bike is holding me back, I train it harder.........



2011-07-19 1:35 PM
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Subject: RE: What is the point of fancy wheels and tri bikes
AHare - 2011-07-18 2:02 PM


Also, it is fun to pass people who are riding better bikes than me, and upgrading would remove a lot of that fun.

That is fun (and I wish it happened more often)...but what's really fun is to blow the doors off people I know passed me on their uber-bling bikes by the second mile of the run.

2011-07-19 3:10 PM
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I have a 25 pound roadie that I use for the vast majority of my training rides and I REALLY weigh that puppy down when I get it out on the road. I ride with an extra water bottle over what I think I'll use. My flat kit is heavy.  You get the idea.

I'll use my 19 pound tri bike for races and L O N G training rides.



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2011-07-19 3:30 PM
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cbrave - 2011-07-18 11:28 PM

Just ask Chris Lieto whether Kona is won on the bike. I don't mean any disrespect to Chris and we should be as strong as possible on the bike, but the bike isn't the last chapter and you may feel smug but that may be fleeting.


Chris Lieto knows that Kona isn't won on the bike; he also knows that if he sits in the group (or at the front of the group) and waits for the marathon there is no way that he is going to win. With his strengths and weaknesses, his option is to go hard on the bike and try to hold everyone off on the run; it hasn't worked yet and it may never work, but he is racing to give him the best chance for success.

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I am not arguing for focusing on strengths and advantage. I love how Chris races- I just don't think other pros start whining about his "advantage" when they get passed. They know the run is still coming. The benefit that pros have is a decent amount of history and relationship that factors in when considering the passing or being passed.

As AG athletes we don't have much info on the guy on a cervelo and zip tires to know if we should be feeling smug.
2011-07-19 3:37 PM
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cbrave - 2011-07-19 5:30 PM

As AG athletes we don't have much info on the guy on a cervelo and zip tires to know if we should be feeling smug.


I'm not sure I understand your point; why do I care what another athlete is riding if I've taken care with my setup to make sure that I've done what I can to give myself the best chance for a fast bike split?

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2011-07-19 3:47 PM
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gsmacleod - 2011-07-19 4:37 PM

cbrave - 2011-07-19 5:30 PM

As AG athletes we don't have much info on the guy on a cervelo and zip tires to know if we should be feeling smug.


I'm not sure I understand your point; why do I care what another athlete is riding if I've taken care with my setup to make sure that I've done what I can to give myself the best chance for a fast bike split?

Shane


I believe (and I could be mistaken, so hey), that he's saying the elite racers have a level of knowledge about each other, namely the strengths and weaknesses of everyone they are racing against as well as themselves, that the rest of us do not generally have. Having this knowledge can definitely affect the way you race.


2011-07-19 3:52 PM
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AndrewMT - 2011-07-18 8:13 PM for those of us not making quite that much, buying shiny toys brings enjoyment.  My wife and I love our bikes.  Our race results have no bearing on how much we love the bikes.  Collectively, we have much much more invested in bikes than cars...

This right here is the reason for me.  I will likely never podium and that's okay with me as that is not my primary goal with all of this.  But if I choose to save my money and buy a really cool looking bike just for the fun of it, I don't see the problem with that, especially if it keeps me interested in the sport.

2011-07-19 4:08 PM
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Scout7 - 2011-07-19 5:47 PM

I believe (and I could be mistaken, so hey), that he's saying the elite racers have a level of knowledge about each other, namely the strengths and weaknesses of everyone they are racing against as well as themselves, that the rest of us do not generally have. Having this knowledge can definitely affect the way you race.


I definitely understand racing one's competition on race day, I'm just not sure how it relates back to it being impossible for Kona (or any other race) to be won on the bike. Every time any athlete has another athlete go past them and they let them go, they are taking a chance. Is there a good chance Lieto will get run down; absolutely. Is there a chance that he may build a big enough lead that he can hold everyone off on the marathon; I would say yes. While it may not be likely, there is a chance that Chris will win Kona by riding off the front and having a solid marathon.

The same thing holds for AGers as well; if someone goes by me, I either need to try to hold their pace or ride my race and hope that I can run faster. If I know the athlete the decision may be a little different but it is still a race day call.

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2011-07-19 5:03 PM
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Subject: RE: What is the point of fancy wheels and tri bikes
Scout7 - 2011-07-19 1:47 PM

gsmacleod - 2011-07-19 4:37 PM

cbrave - 2011-07-19 5:30 PM

As AG athletes we don't have much info on the guy on a cervelo and zip tires to know if we should be feeling smug.


I'm not sure I understand your point; why do I care what another athlete is riding if I've taken care with my setup to make sure that I've done what I can to give myself the best chance for a fast bike split?

Shane


I believe (and I could be mistaken, so hey), that he's saying the elite racers have a level of knowledge about each other, namely the strengths and weaknesses of everyone they are racing against as well as themselves, that the rest of us do not generally have. Having this knowledge can definitely affect the way you race.


Yes that was my attempted point. Well said.
2011-07-19 5:17 PM
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cbrave - 2011-07-19 6:03 PM
Scout7 - 2011-07-19 1:47 PM
gsmacleod - 2011-07-19 4:37 PM
cbrave - 2011-07-19 5:30 PM As AG athletes we don't have much info on the guy on a cervelo and zip tires to know if we should be feeling smug.
I'm not sure I understand your point; why do I care what another athlete is riding if I've taken care with my setup to make sure that I've done what I can to give myself the best chance for a fast bike split? Shane
I believe (and I could be mistaken, so hey), that he's saying the elite racers have a level of knowledge about each other, namely the strengths and weaknesses of everyone they are racing against as well as themselves, that the rest of us do not generally have. Having this knowledge can definitely affect the way you race.
Yes that was my attempted point. Well said.

Another point is we never really know someone else's story. That guy on the fancy bike could have battled back from a debilitating disease or a traumatic injury. Maybe the best he'll ever do is 16MPH and that is damn hard for him. Does anybody want to feel smug for passing him?

2011-07-19 6:28 PM
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Subject: RE: What is the point of fancy wheels and tri bikes

I feel smug when I pass anyone - young, old, rich, famous, beautiful, ugly, it doesn't matter. 

I passed Sister Madonna once at a HIM.  You got nothing on me!

Blind athlete too.  One side, I'm coming through!

 



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