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2005-11-13 9:08 PM

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Subject: Aero disc wheel comparison
I'm in the market for a rear disc wheel and in my research I decided to compile whatever info I could find on the available options. I hadn't realized there were so many choices available so it was definitely worth the time to see what was out there. I'm missing some info for a few of the models so if anyone has any details just let me know and I'll update the spreadsheet. I tried to use the manufacturer's list price and weight data whenever possible.

In my quick review it looks like the CarbonSport Lightweight is the best disc on the market although it'll cost you. For the budget-conscience the Renn Madeira seems to be the hands-down winner. At $700 direct from the factory it's 1/2 the price of the Zipp 900 and still weighs in at only 980g...and don't forget the lifetime damage replacement policy and 2-year warranty. The Renn Kaiser looks to be a better choice compared to some of the ore expensive models (Hed, Mavix, XLab) at only $550...this is definitely the choice if you want the advantages of a disc at the lowest cost possible and aren't a complete weight weenie. The Corima and Zero discs are probably the best compromise of function and budget. Zipp wins the name recognition game but you need to seriously consider if the extra cash is worth the benefits of the dimpled surface and smoother bearings. If I were going to pay retail I'd go with the Renn Madeira personally. With available discounts, the Zero is my top choice (Team Javelin inventory close-out brings it to $750). Also, BT Gold members get a 15% discount and free shipping on the Zipp at trisports.com bringing that option to $1150 delivered.

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I've also attached an Excel spreadsheet if you'd like to sort by price or weight.


Edited by TH3_FRB 2005-11-13 9:10 PM




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2005-11-13 10:36 PM
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Subject: RE: Aero disc wheel comparison
Note that Javelin/Zero resell the Lightweight disk wheel. You might be able to get it at a Team Javelin discount. I haven't looked into it, though.
2005-11-13 11:08 PM
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Yeah, Zero is the North American distributor for Lightweight wheels...I think our Team discount is 25% so that would bring it down to $1650 if the discount is valid for Lightweight.  Might be worth looking into.
2005-11-15 6:05 AM
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Subject: RE: Aero disc wheel comparison

The Javelin discount is 10% off of Lightweight wheels.  Damn those things are expensive.  Not to hijack the disc only thread, but if anyone has any feedback on the regular Zero wheels I'd live to hear it...

2005-11-15 8:54 AM
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Subject: RE: Aero disc wheel comparison
10% - that's nothing!  Well, when you start at $2200 10% isn't much help.  I sooo want that Ultralight disc though.  Guess I'll probably go with the Renn, Zero, or a slightly used Zipp.
2005-12-07 9:10 PM
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First, thanks Joel for all the work you have done and info you have provided not only on this thread but, the nutrition one, report on swim camp and all of the other great info you have shared with everyone.

My question regarding wheels is, I have Ksyrium SSL 2001 model on my bike, looking at the weight for the disc or other aero wheels, what would be the benefit of my upgrading to a different wheel when the Ksyrium is about 840 grams clincher. One other thing and a reason I really like the Ksyrium is I am 6' 3" 190 and on a long ride I probably carry another 8 to 10 lbs. of water with me.  It doesn't look like there are a lot of wheels that are significantly lighter than them.

Confused in Nevada....

Thanks in advance for all replies.



2005-12-07 9:23 PM
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Subject: RE: Aero disc wheel comparison
There is a trade-off between weight and aerodynamics.  Something like you have is relatively light for a good strong wheel but not compared to a nice carbon race wheel.  Discs are generally heavier than deep section wheel but the aero advantage outweighs (pun intended) the extra weight.  If you're interested in picking up some aero advantage for racing then you should check out the Zipp 404 Clydsdale tubulars.  They run 662g front and 768g rear and are built for heavier riders like yourself...although I'm not sure what the suggested weight limit is for the regular 404 tubulars.  Also, clincher tires and tubes tend to be a good bit heavier than a tubular tire so make sure you consider the total wheel/tire/tube weight when doing comparisons.  I will save over 2lbs of rotating mass when I swap my new American Classic 58mm tubulars for my stock Shimano R540 wheels at races this season...that's HUGE!
2005-12-20 2:26 AM
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Subject: RE: Aero disc wheel comparison
Don't know if this is appropriate here but....

I am selling my wheels if anyone is looking for a disc.

I have a Zipp disc, 2004 model, tubular with a Shimano 9 speed ultegra cassette.
About 500 miles on it and it is in mint condition.

Also, a Zipp 404 front wheel, tubular with Cane Creek hub and spokes. Under 750 miles on this one. In excellent condition.

Front wheel has a brand new Vittoria kevlar tire and I have another new tire to be mounted on the back wheel. Skewers and glue also!

These are great wheels and I have had great experiences with them.

Contact me for more info. [email protected]

Cheers.
2005-12-20 6:55 AM
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2006-04-28 2:25 PM
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This is the first time I've actually read this thread, but why didn't you include the CH Aero cover in there?

At $65, it is far and away the cheapest option for a disc rear wheel. The aerodynamic benefit is going to be the same. In my case, I went with it because it allows me to use my PowerTap during my races.
2006-04-28 2:54 PM
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That's always an option.  I was just looking at actual disc wheels but the covers are certainly better than a standard wheel and the point about running it with a PowerTap is also something to consider.  Be sure to check with your race director or head Ref though...covers are illegal under some sets of rules.


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