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2006-02-09 11:23 AM

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Subject: Pull bouy question

I was wondering about using the pull bouy during the majority of my swim workouts.  Since I am a west coast boy and our water rarely gets above 72 degrees, wetsuits will be worn 99.99% of the time. Since the wetsuit help with leg position, why not train with the pull bouy all the time?  My kick sucks and I hardly ever use it anyway. 

What would be the cons of using it all the time?



2006-02-09 11:25 AM
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2006-02-09 11:35 AM
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Subject: RE: Pull bouy question
Ditto the above.  Just because you'll swim with a wetsuit all the time doesn't mean you won't be a better swimmer if you learn better body positioning.  Same for improving your kick.
2006-02-09 11:38 AM
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Subject: RE: Pull bouy question

yea, don't use it too often.  When you do alternate sets between pull and swim so you translate the feeling of the bouy into your swimming.

Remember that the wet suit will lift you out of the water and make you faster, but it lifts your body equally, so piss poor balance is still piss poor balance.  Also remember that you may think you don't have to be as fast as others in the pool because the wet suit will help, but those people with good form in the pool will be wearing wet suits too, making them even faster. 

2006-02-09 1:28 PM
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Subject: RE: Pull bouy question

A friend uses one all the time and I feel my friend is dependant on it.  Plain cant swim worth beans without it.  The reasoning is that my friend wears a wetsuit for tri swims so this way the bouancy is the same. 

It should be a tool, not 'needed' item.

 

personally, I cant STAND the things!!!  

2006-02-09 2:03 PM
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Subject: RE: Pull bouy question
I ONLY use it for drill work... In our 50 degree watter I dont even think about swimming without a wetsuit, but good body position will really help you as will a strong kick.


2006-02-09 2:24 PM
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Subject: RE: Pull bouy question
I agree with everything written above about not letting a pull buoy become a crutch -- use only for drills!

Personally, though, I love the things. I feel they help me smooth out my stroke and get a better glide.
2006-02-09 2:27 PM
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Subject: RE: Pull bouy question
yea, the biggest thing they help me with is feeling what upright body position and gliding is supposed to feel like, so when I'm swimming without it, I know when I get to where I need to be
2006-02-09 4:07 PM
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Subject: RE: Pull bouy question
on the same note - what about training with baggy trunks and an oversized top => lots of drag.
2006-02-09 5:58 PM
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Subject: RE: Pull bouy question
luv2flyjrn - 2006-02-09 1:07 PM

on the same note - what about training with baggy trunks and an oversized top => lots of drag.


My swim coaches have always said some drag is good for training. Speedo, Nike and TYR all make "drag" suits for the guys. I always wear 2 old, stretched out suits for training. Feels great on race day to go down to a single layer of material.

Be careful not to train with drag that causes your stroke to get out of whack. An oversized shirt can be a real problem as can really baggy trunks.
2006-02-09 6:16 PM
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Subject: RE: Pull bouy question
From my experiences and from what I've read of others, using the pull bouy puts great stress on your shoulders, due to it immobilizing your lower legs. Most workouts I've seen recommend using a pull bouy for strength, often times incorporating paddles, but certainly not anywhere close to 100% of the time. Best of Luck!!


2006-02-09 7:17 PM
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Subject: RE: Pull bouy question

I read once that there is a pro out there who only swims with a pull buoy because he works his legs so hard on biking and running he wants to give them a break. I can't remember his name off hand its been a few years since reading the article. I know he wasn't a household name.

 I like the pull buoy. I wear my drag suit with it and it gives me a great workout. I avoid paddles with it because my shoulders are sensitive. I wouldn't use it all of the time because I think it takes away from building endurance. Just my opinion.

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