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2006-03-24 12:50 PM

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Subject: Heavy Breathing While Running

I am finally able to admit that...

I have turned into one of those "heavy breathers" runners who I hate hearing in races and used to make of. 

I've noticed that when I run faster and push myself harder that my breathing is loud.  I'm sure this is normal and it makes sense.  I feel fine when I'm running and don't feel like I'm going to die or anything- I just breath louder than I would at a slower pace.  My question is, once I get used to this faster pace will I adjust and not breath as loud?  Or does heavy breatjing mean that I need to slow down. 

I'm just worried that this is a permenant thing, and I just don't want to be one of those "heavy breathers" while running and hope that it goes away.  Any thoughts?



2006-03-24 12:57 PM
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Subject: RE: Heavy Breathing While Running
It will probably settle down a little bit. But the faster you run, the more oxygen you need, the harder you'll breathe. But here's the real question. Do alpacas breathe heavy while sprinting?
2006-03-24 1:17 PM
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watergirl - 2006-03-24 1:57 PM It will probably settle down a little bit. But the faster you run, the more oxygen you need, the harder you'll breathe. But here's the real question. Do alpacas breathe heavy while sprinting?

that's an excellent question.  I'm not sure how alpaca breath when they run.  I haven't been around them to know.  I think we need an alpaca expert to answer this question.

But in all seriousness, I hope the heavy breathing ceases once I adapt to my new pace.  I've just never breathed that loud before while running.  Now I apologize to the people I run with because I know it's annoying.

2006-03-24 1:25 PM
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What's your heart rate doing while all this breathing is going on?
2006-03-24 1:43 PM
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the bear - 2006-03-24 2:25 PM What's your heart rate doing while all this breathing is going on?

Not sure.  I don't have a HR monitor.  Like I said, I feel fine and I can still talk- it's just that I'm breathing loud.

2006-03-24 2:17 PM
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I find that when I start breathing louder, or "huffing and puffing" as I like to call it, I'm crossing into Zone 4 for my HR. That's generally my hard, or interval session for the week. For my long, slow endurance runs, I try to keep my exertion below that. The runs can seem too easy, but from what I understand, that's normal for building endurance.

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2006-03-24 4:56 PM
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mmmm....new boyfriend........breathing hard during runs........perhaps not as much energy for runs as there used to be?........hmmmmmmmmm.......or perhaps running with boyfriend?..............

much to consider here.

2006-03-24 5:33 PM
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hangloose - 2006-03-24 4:56 PM

mmmm....new boyfriend........breathing hard during runs........perhaps not as much energy for runs as there used to be?........hmmmmmmmmm.......or perhaps running with boyfriend?..............

much to consider here.



Maybe it's HIS breathing that is heavy?
2006-03-24 6:04 PM
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You have short distance speed but lack base. You are running fairly low volume at a fairly aggressive pace according to your log. Unless you are trying to optimize your open 5K time, you may want to think about upping the volume and lowering the intensity to build the aerobic base needed for long distance events. Triatletes and marathoners are diesels: they put out consistent effort over a long period of time without running very hot. You will get much faster on all distances 5K and up if you build your base.
2006-03-24 7:37 PM
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us50090 - 2006-03-24 6:04 PM You have short distance speed but lack base. You are running fairly low volume at a fairly aggressive pace according to your log. Unless you are trying to optimize your open 5K time, you may want to think about upping the volume and lowering the intensity to build the aerobic base needed for long distance events. Triatletes and marathoners are diesels: they put out consistent effort over a long period of time without running very hot. You will get much faster on all distances 5K and up if you build your base.

Not sure where this is coming from. I think Janelle has run a couple marathons, looks like she's done at least a couple half marys and a HIM in the past six months.



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2006-03-24 7:56 PM
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the bear - 2006-03-24 5:37 PM

Not sure where this is coming from. I think Janelle has run a couple marathons, looks like she's done at least a couple half marys and a HIM in the past six months.



Well, 33 miles in March, 46 miles in Feb, 156 for the year, and 370 in all of 2005. If those numbers are indeed correct, those are not particularly high run volumes. Her average pace is in the 8 minute range for her recent runs which is a good clip for non-race pace. I can see why she's huffing 'n puffing.


2006-03-24 8:06 PM
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us50090 - 2006-03-24 7:56 PMWell, 33 miles in March, 46 miles in Feb, 156 for the year, and 370 in all of 2005. If those numbers are indeed correct, those are not particularly high run volumes. Her average pace is in the 8 minute range for her recent runs which is a good clip for non-race pace. I can see why she's huffing 'n puffing.

I'll let her answer to her base, but I don't think she started logging until mid-year.

I run my tempo runs at ~ 8m/m pace, probably can be described as " huffing 'n puffing". Has nothing to do with lack of base.

I'm not sure I breathe loudly, though.

2006-03-24 8:17 PM
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One reason for heavy breathing might be that you are producing a lot of lactic acid. Acidic pH in the blood stimulates breathing, but a big increase usually doesn't occur until you hit the lactate threshold. Maybe you're just a very glycolytic person.

Actually, I should ask whether you are breathing slowly and deeply, or faster and less deep. The choice between those two scenarios is genetically determined, so it's different between people. Deeper breathing is more annoying, yes, but it is actually more efficient than the other option.

If you feel fine even though you're breathing heavily, maybe you should....stop worrying about it. I'm sure it's of no consequence, and your body is probably settling into its most efficient breathing pattern. I don't think your breathing pattern will change with time, and I don't think you should want it to.



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2006-03-24 8:28 PM
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Wow....glycolytic..now that's a good one. Skavoovie I salute you.

(Science: biochemistry) The conversion of a monosaccharide (generally glucose) to pyruvate via the glycolytic pathway (i.e. The Embden Meyerhof Parnas pathway) in the cytosol.

Generates ATP without consuming oxygen and is thus anaerobic.

Origin: Gr. Lysis = dissolution

A metabolic process that breaks down carbohydrates and sugars through a series of reactions to either pyruvic acid or lactic acid and release energy for the body in the form of ATP.

The first stage of cellular respiration where glucose is converted into two molecules of pyruvic acid. In aerobic respiration, this pyruvic acid enters the Kreb's cycle while during anaerobic respiration, the pyruvic acid is made though cannot enter the Kreb's cycle, and produces a net gain of 2 ATP from one glucose molecule.



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Subject: RE: Heavy Breathing While Running
gullahcracker - 2006-03-24 9:28 PM Wow....glycolytic..now that's a good one. Skavoovie I salute you.

(Science: biochemistry) The conversion of a monosaccharide (generally glucose) to pyruvate via the glycolytic pathway (i.e. The Embden Meyerhof Parnas pathway) in the cytosol.

Generates ATP without consuming oxygen and is thus anaerobic.

Origin: Gr. Lysis = dissolution

A metabolic process that breaks down carbohydrates and sugars through a series of reactions to either pyruvic acid or lactic acid and release energy for the body in the form of ATP.

The first stage of cellular respiration where glucose is converted into two molecules of pyruvic acid. In aerobic respiration, this pyruvic acid enters the Kreb's cycle while during anaerobic respiration, the pyruvic acid is made though cannot enter the Kreb's cycle, and produces a net gain of 2 ATP from one glucose molecule.

 Yup, that sounds about right!

 

2006-03-24 9:30 PM
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I don't know the answer if your heavy/loud breathing will go away but I suspect when you push yourself it will always be there. What pace is hard for you now will be easier later, but then you will have a new hard pace that I think you'll be a loud breather.

When I race short races by the end of the race, I sound like I'm having an asthma attack. I think that what happens to me when I really really push myself....for me that doesn't happen in training only racing. But as my HR rises my breathing changes. At 155 I start the louder breathing...as I get to 170's I very loud...I see it based on my HR zones.

People in running races always hear my catching them...no surprise passes by me. I'll have to see on my race Sunday what my HR is when I get very loud...I'll be thinking of you the last mile or so! 

 

 



2006-03-24 10:25 PM
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OK, well I guess I'm one of those heavy breathers. Now one more thing to be worried about during my first tri. When I run with my friend you can barely hear her breath but I'm huffing and puffing. But that's because I'm fat and out of shape.
2006-03-29 9:31 AM
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us50090 - 2006-03-24 7:04 PM You have short distance speed but lack base. You are running fairly low volume at a fairly aggressive pace according to your log. Unless you are trying to optimize your open 5K time, you may want to think about upping the volume and lowering the intensity to build the aerobic base needed for long distance events. Triatletes and marathoners are diesels: they put out consistent effort over a long period of time without running very hot. You will get much faster on all distances 5K and up if you build your base.

I have 3 years of a running base- ran 2 marathons a bunch of 1/2's, in which all my runs were pretty much a slow pace.  I just recently started speed work and tempo runs this season, as well as a LSD on the weekend.  I think I have a pretty decent base, it's just that I'm not used to running at a faster paces.

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