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2006-05-30 7:52 AM

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Subject: Buying a new bike...need info
Okay everybody. I did my fist tri a week ago. I finished. Woo-hoo! I did the race on a 12 yr old Murray touring bike. It's big. It's heavy. It's being retired.

So, I'm getting a new bike. I've got several bike shops in the area and will be shopping around this weekend. I'm female, 5'1". I'm looking for an entry level bike.

I know nothing about what I'm looking for. When I read the threads and hear things like "big ring" "crank" "tubular tires vs clincher tires" I get lost. Also, everyone says to get clipless pedals but then they say they are clipping in?

I need a Cycling 101 class. I don't want to look/sound stupid when I walk into the bike shop. It may be easier on some of you guys, but for a woman we usually get the "let me tell you what you need little missy". Can you explain some of the basics of what I need to know when shopping for a bike? I know the fit is the most important thing, and given my height that will be the first think I look at. What other things are important?

Thanks for all your help!

Vicki


2006-05-30 8:12 AM
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Subject: RE: Buying a new bike...need info
First things - First...

The bike is defined by the FIT... not the other way around.

I noticed your post indicated you spent a lot of time looking for a bike...

How much time did you spend evaluating a good bike fitter (specially with regard to a tri-bike fit specialists - which are rare)?

If the answer is none... then you have the cart in front of the horse.

The question is a Who... not a What...

WHO FITS the bike is the key element. Who fits the bike determines the success of your bike search. What kind of bike is secondary.

Until you get a good fit, the basics of what kind of bike can not be determined accurately.

I would suggest you spend more time and some money getting a good bike fit. It will pay HUGE dividends in the long run. Until you have a good fit relative to your body type/size, biking style, experience, etc.... you are simply guessing and it will be just a question of luck as to whether or not the bike you buy will be the right bike.

Fit first - bike second. Ask experienced triathletes in the area for bike fitting experts suggestions... you may be surprised how far you may have to travel for a good bike fit.

Good Luck.

Joe
2006-05-30 8:32 AM
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Subject: RE: Buying a new bike...need info
http://www.slowtwitch.com/mainheadings/features/buyabike.html

This is a good article that should be helpful.

I went through this last year, starting into tri's and getting a new bike. The previous poster is correct that a good fit is critical to success. At your height, you may have more challenges getting a good fit than most. You may find that a woman-specific bike will fit you better.

I'd also recommend finding the best bike fitters in your area. Other triathletes can tell you who.

If you are looking at entry level bikes, I would recommend that you pay the extra $100-200 to get to the second level. The components will last a good bit longer and are much less expensive to repair. You will get a lot more life out of a second level bike versus an entry level one. Further, if you continue on into triathlons and fitness, you may want to upgrade your bike again if you go entry level. If you step up a little now, you will be a lot less likely to need to upgrade again later.

I'll see if I can find more of the articles that I found useful last year....

Good luck in your search.
2006-05-30 10:54 AM
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Subject: RE: Buying a new bike...need info
Here is another group of articles that has good info on bikes....

http://www.trinewbies.com/category.asp?catID=5

I'll see what else I can find....
2006-05-30 12:51 PM
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You can get some pointers from people here but you may not be able to shake that awkward feeling when you are in the store.  The sales person (unless you luck into a really nice one) will pick up on that and might try to take advantage of you.  Tell them you have a "coach" and you were told to look for certain things and then you have to run it past your "coach".  You can use these BT'ers who know tons about bikes to run your choices past to see if you are getting a good deal or not.  The salesperson doesn't need to know that your "coach" is an online community.  Tap the knowledge of BT to get yourself the best bike you can.  That way, if you get into haggling you can also use your "coach" like car salesman say "let me check with my boss".

I'd offer to help if I knew enough about bikes, but I'll bet one or two of these guys would even offer you to be able to call them for last minute decisions when you are standing in the bike shop trying to make the deal. 

If you called me you'd end up leaving on a tricycle.  "But he said it was a TRI-cycle, honey!"

 

 

2006-05-31 6:46 AM
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Subject: RE: Buying a new bike...need info
Wow. That's a lot of great information and advice. Thanks!!!

I guess I was a little confused because when I visited a LBS, the guy showed me the Trek 1500 WSD and I rode it in the parking lot a little. He told me that I would get a complete bike fitting for free with any bike purchase at their store. That's why I thought you buy the bike, then you get fitted on the bike you just bought.

Thanks again for the information. Wish me luck!

Vicki


2006-05-31 8:37 AM
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Subject: RE: Buying a new bike...need info

True but that "free fitting" might last all of 1 minute which mine did.  Bike fittings take time and make all the difference.   When I bought my bike, the salesperson had me stand next to the seat and then over the frame. Took him less than a minute to fit me and I paid for it for over a month. Sore knees and back.  Then took my bike to a fitter who worked on my angles, seat, and stem.  No more pain. Best $50.00 I ever spent.  A good bike fit can make you want to ride or make you want to bag the workout.

Just stay away from PERFORMANCE BIKE SHOP IN BONITA, CA.  There that will teach you to blow me off when I ask if the bike fit could be wrong. That and the fact you get no more of my money.   

2006-05-31 9:08 AM
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Subject: RE: Buying a new bike...need info

A good shop will have a 'fit kit'.  It's a strange looking stationary bike where all the parts are adjustable.  They can make it into just about any frame geometry they want.  They do some initial measurements, set it up and have you get on.  Then as you ride, they tweak the settings until it fits.  If you are serious, some shops have it hooked up to a watt meter, so they can assess how the geometry is affecting your power output.  There is a shop in Indy that will do this for about $100.

The results of the fit kit will tell you what geometry is ideal.  Then you can look at other bikes and find one with as close to that geometry as you can, or you can have a custom frame built up for you.  Once you find the bike you want and buy it, then you have to go through the process again on that frame to tweak and fine tune the fit, especially if your new frame isn't exactly the dimensions of the ideal fit. 

You don't HAVE to use a fit kit for a good fit.  Some shops will use a series of measurements and some math (or look up tables) to figure out your ideal geometry.  Just be prepared to get REALLY familiar with your fitter and make sure you ride a good varriety of frames on both sides of the measurments, as this method will put you in the ball park (well more like the infield) but won't tell you exactly what frame you need.  You'll also need to spend more time with them to get your seat height, stem length and seat-bars drop all figured out.

so if you get nothing more out of this post, just get this:  If he looks at you and tells you that you want a XX cm bike, grabs one and tells you to go ride, do so.  Get in your car and ride to another shop.



Edited by vortmax 2006-05-31 9:10 AM
2006-05-31 10:21 AM
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Subject: RE: Buying a new bike...need info

First you need to decide if you want a road bike or tri bike.  Here is a good article on the difference.

http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/bikes/difference.shtml

Alot of bikes use shimano components.  If you are looking at Trek bikes you can go to www.trekbikes.com and see what bikes have which components and they rate them as well.  This will give you some ideas of what they are talking about when they say 105 vs ultegra vs dura-ace.  I would start with the straps and once you get use to them, then upgrade to clipless. and yes, you do clip in to clipless.  its weird, i know.  Tires clincher vs tubular.  They are basicly the same, tubular are used for racing and clincher are an everyday type wheel.  You can also type in bike terminology into google and learn what chainrings, cassettes and cogs are.

If i can be of any help, just let me know.

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