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2012-07-03 10:03 AM in reply to: #4292245 |
Elite 3515 Romeoville, Il | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose 1. My main purpose may be different than yours. It may be my main purpose to show I have more money than you, or I can buy enough expensive stuff to be as fast as you. If I can't do that at least I can look better than you. (I'm kidding some here! ) When you think about, we are a competitive bunch...right?, why would you think the competition of having a better bike/wheels/helmet/etc. would be any different than the competition of who's faster than who? 2. Because I'm serious about triathlon. It's my hobby and I'm trying to be the best I can be at it. If that means buying the most expensive toys that's what I'm going to do. 3. Expensive gear gives me confidence. If I spent good money on it, in my mind, it probably works and works well. I don't want to have to worry about junk that doesn't stay in tune, that isn't comfortable, or that won't hold up to heavy use. 4. Because if I can't use it for it's intended purpose now I don't have to buy something else when I can use it for it's intended purpose. Sometimes spending more money up front means spending less in the long run. 5. Because I can Edited by Meulen 2012-07-03 10:04 AM |
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2012-07-03 10:12 AM in reply to: #4292245 |
Veteran 444 | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose Because they look cooler! DUH!!! Ok, partly kidding. When I got serious about triathlon I knew I needed a bike to replace my walmart special "roadie". And at the time I wasn't a big fan of biking, so had no plans to go on road rides for the heck of it, everything was about tri training. So I bought a tri bike. Did I get the super carbon deep dish electronic shifting mega bike? No, couldn't afford that one, but you bet your butt I would have if I could have! I have a SC 2.5 and I love it. If I could change anything, I would get a carbon version. Who cares what other people do with their money? I love checking out all of the super fast carbon goodies that other people have, even if they aren't fast. |
2012-07-03 10:12 AM in reply to: #4292448 |
Alpharetta, Georgia | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose Tiffanator - 2012-07-03 10:12 AM Who cares what other people do with their money? Apparently, a lot of people. |
2012-07-03 10:26 AM in reply to: #4292245 |
Champion 7547 Albuquerque, New Mexico | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose I guess there's a difference between buying the expensive stuff and using it in a way that negates the benefits and buying expensive stuff and then NOT using it because it's "too nice" or whatever... I'm guilty of "saving" some of my nicer gear (think backpacking) and I've made a conscious effort to use and enjoy what I've bought! Mostly though, I'm a cheapskate, so very little of what I have is really "premo" stuff. |
2012-07-03 10:28 AM in reply to: #4292245 |
Elite 3498 Laguna Beach | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose People try to rationalize buying a triathlon bike as being "necessary" to their competitive experience. WE need to be more pragmatic about wanting "toys". There isn't anything wrong with it. It doesn't have to be justified, it doesn't have to be rationalized. It's the same reason Ferraris and Porsches sit in traffic jams on the 405. People don't buy them to do laps at Imola or Monaco. They buy them because they want them and they can. There isn't anything wrong with that. There is a bit of an issue when people adopt the "Walter Middy" mindset that they are some kind of "sponsored athlete" or take themselves or the sport more seriously than may be reasonable. Everybody knows these athletes. I've probably been one myself, the guy who thought he was hot potatoes and the next big thing because he won his age category and came in 2nd at the local 200 person Muskox Man triathlon. Clearly then, we are "pros" and must spend thousands to save every second... to win a $4 plaque. For the most part people rationalize just wanting cool stuff, and there is nothing wrong with that. |
2012-07-03 10:34 AM in reply to: #4292245 |
Member 109 | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose 4 words for you I ride for show. |
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2012-07-03 10:35 AM in reply to: #4292245 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose How much for the chopper and the two gals? |
2012-07-03 10:36 AM in reply to: #4292507 |
Elite 3498 Laguna Beach | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose That photo is actually me before I became a poor white guy. |
2012-07-03 10:37 AM in reply to: #4292512 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose Tom Demerly. - 2012-07-03 10:36 AM That photo is actually me before I became a poor white guy.
But......were you fast???? |
2012-07-03 10:37 AM in reply to: #4292245 |
Veteran 1384 Panama City, FL | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose Maybe that fancy bike is a reflection of a person's long held goal- something they worked hard to achieve, something that they earned, and got for themselves. Don't assume it's just a frivilous "buy" because "they can". In America, has the class envy poison now spilled over into our great sport? I don't have the nicest stuff- don't get me wrong- adequate, but not the nicest, but I don't worry myself with the guy in transition next to me who has a 10K bike. That's his business. People need to learn to be content to be happy. I always view my race performance through the prism of knowing i did my best with the time/$budget I put toward the goal. I bet most everyone else is the same as well. Be content and thankful for what you have vs. stressing overy someone else's choices.
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2012-07-03 10:46 AM in reply to: #4292516 |
Elite 3498 Laguna Beach | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose No dawg, I had people to be fast for me. |
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2012-07-03 10:47 AM in reply to: #4292507 |
Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose Left Brain - 2012-07-03 11:35 AM How much for the chopper and the two gals? R44 Raven II with Standard Equipment 1500 $434,000 Girls, dunno. Going off my divorce they'd be close to a million dollars. |
2012-07-03 10:50 AM in reply to: #4292558 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose DanielG - 2012-07-03 10:47 AM Left Brain - 2012-07-03 11:35 AM How much for the chopper and the two gals? Girls, dunno. Going off my divorce they'd be close to a million dollars. But......are they fast??? Because I'm gonna need them to be able to outrun my wife!!! |
2012-07-03 10:51 AM in reply to: #4292558 |
Elite 3498 Laguna Beach | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose No, about $4 million actually. the helicopter is the better deal. |
2012-07-03 10:54 AM in reply to: #4292245 |
Master 4118 Toronto | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose I dunno. I had a great bit of perspective given to me one day. I had gotten a very nice new TT bike on a great deal but i felt like an imposter riding it. I suck. I don't deserve such a nice bike because i can't do it justice is how i felt. Sitting at a stop light on one of my first rides a roadie stopped and complimented my bike. I sheepishly accepted the compliment but said that I don't deserve it - he laughed and said 'none of us deserves or needs it. We're not the pros.' I got what he was saying and let myself off the hook - whether or not i can maximize my potential and use the bike to the fullest of its capabilities is really irrelevant. This is my hobby - having a nice bike helps in its own way. Not only in speed (even when weighed down by bottles and bento boxes, which you need when you're out on a 6 hour bike in the middle of nowhere) but in motivation, and the desire to keep with the sport. And I most certainly enjoy it. |
2012-07-03 11:07 AM in reply to: #4292572 |
Elite 3498 Laguna Beach | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose Speed costs money: |
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2012-07-03 11:35 AM in reply to: #4292245 |
Expert 2355 Madison, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose It was simply a question to everyone, sorry for being quizzical and wondering why people buy certain bikes. If this question bothered you so much, why even answer? I didn't mean to upset, pry into, or even look down upon people. Not sure why people take such offense to a basic question. For those that answered nicely thank you, and for those that say remarks such as "get off my lawn", take a deep breath and relax a bit you are taking some things too seriously |
2012-07-03 11:37 AM in reply to: #4292274 |
Member 67 Socorro, NM | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose louiskie - 2012-07-03 9:18 AM I wonder the same thing when I see people in races NOT in their aero bars, especially short races where, presumably, discomfort from being aero for long is not an issue. So many people do this. Why not try to maximize the benefit of your bike in a race situation? And yeah, the amount of stuff people load on their bikes is amazing. You pay a lot for aero frames and then you go and stick a round bottle on it...
Depends on where the round bottle goes though. A round bottle laying between the aerobars is arguably the most aero position possible, correct? |
2012-07-03 11:40 AM in reply to: #4292448 |
Veteran 784 | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose Tiffanator - 2012-07-03 11:12 AM Because they look cooler! DUH!!! Ok, partly kidding. When I got serious about triathlon I knew I needed a bike to replace my walmart special "roadie". And at the time I wasn't a big fan of biking, so had no plans to go on road rides for the heck of it, everything was about tri training. So I bought a tri bike. Did I get the super carbon deep dish electronic shifting mega bike? No, couldn't afford that one, but you bet your butt I would have if I could have! I have a SC 2.5 and I love it. If I could change anything, I would get a carbon version. Who cares what other people do with their money? I love checking out all of the super fast carbon goodies that other people have, even if they aren't fast.
^^^well said |
2012-07-03 11:41 AM in reply to: #4292706 |
Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose bcagle25 - 2012-07-03 12:35 PM It was simply a question to everyone, sorry for being quizzical and wondering why people buy certain bikes. If this question bothered you so much, why even answer? I didn't mean to upset, pry into, or even look down upon people. Not sure why people take such offense to a basic question. For those that answered nicely thank you, and for those that say remarks such as "get off my lawn", take a deep breath and relax a bit you are taking some things too seriously Nope. You'll understand in 20 years or so. |
2012-07-03 11:46 AM in reply to: #4292716 |
Extreme Veteran 1942 In front of computer when typing this. | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose NMTrier - 2012-07-03 12:37 PM louiskie - 2012-07-03 9:18 AM I wonder the same thing when I see people in races NOT in their aero bars, especially short races where, presumably, discomfort from being aero for long is not an issue. So many people do this. Why not try to maximize the benefit of your bike in a race situation? And yeah, the amount of stuff people load on their bikes is amazing. You pay a lot for aero frames and then you go and stick a round bottle on it...
Depends on where the round bottle goes though. A round bottle laying between the aerobars is arguably the most aero position possible, correct? Between the bars is not on the frame :-) I just find it odd how nice tri bikes have all these great aero features that the end user then negates. Sorta like taking your ferrari and putting a square roof box on it in case you need nutrition on your drive.... |
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2012-07-03 11:49 AM in reply to: #4292245 |
Pro 5361 | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose Why? Price of admission to be a member of the club!
actually- for me; After two years of Tris on my road bike, and spending time on the 3rd step of an age group podium looking up at guys just seconds or a minute or so ahead of me... I decided to treat myself. and I put an aero bottle on the frame and an aero bottle up front. Bottles do make a bit of a drag difference, but not nearly as much as your body position. anyway, you only live once. I can afford it. it's a fun toy and I've got a couple thousand miles on my Felt so far- and really enjoyed those miles. It's a superfluous expense in life. I don't do that very often. (my wife sure does, but I don't) |
2012-07-03 11:50 AM in reply to: #4292734 |
Expert 2355 Madison, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose DanielG - 2012-07-03 11:41 AM bcagle25 - 2012-07-03 12:35 PM It was simply a question to everyone, sorry for being quizzical and wondering why people buy certain bikes. If this question bothered you so much, why even answer? I didn't mean to upset, pry into, or even look down upon people. Not sure why people take such offense to a basic question. For those that answered nicely thank you, and for those that say remarks such as "get off my lawn", take a deep breath and relax a bit you are taking some things too seriously Nope. You'll understand in 20 years or so. please explain to me what i am missing here? Because the way you come across it would venture to think you have NEVER asked someone why they choose this over the other, or why they go about certain things in life. |
2012-07-03 11:51 AM in reply to: #4292753 |
Elite 3498 Laguna Beach | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose What's so hard to understand? |
2012-07-03 11:54 AM in reply to: #4292753 |
Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose bcagle25 - 2012-07-03 12:50 PM DanielG - 2012-07-03 11:41 AM bcagle25 - 2012-07-03 12:35 PM It was simply a question to everyone, sorry for being quizzical and wondering why people buy certain bikes. If this question bothered you so much, why even answer? I didn't mean to upset, pry into, or even look down upon people. Not sure why people take such offense to a basic question. For those that answered nicely thank you, and for those that say remarks such as "get off my lawn", take a deep breath and relax a bit you are taking some things too seriously Nope. You'll understand in 20 years or so. please explain to me what i am missing here? Because the way you come across it would venture to think you have NEVER asked someone why they choose this over the other, or why they go about certain things in life. I don't. It's none of my damned business unless they want to initiate the conversation. |
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