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 2012-07-03 2:18 PM in reply to: #4292245 |
Master  2236    Denison Texas |  Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purposeI enjoy being able to buy stuff without having to justify why to anyone besides myself and my wife. I don't mind explaining my logic if someone is truly curious about it though. I did buy an expensive, to me, Tri bike and, yes I have round bottles on it. I spent my allotted discretionary funds on the bike, next go around will see better bottles or a hydration system. sometimes people are moving in steps. |
| 2012-07-03 2:45 PM in reply to: #4292263 |
Veteran 406 Salt Lake City | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose |
| 2012-07-03 3:48 PM in reply to: #4292245 |
Extreme Veteran 601 Cold Spring, NY | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose Ben - your post does come off as a loaded question, but since i probably fit the bill, I'll give you my reason. A couple of months ago, i put 2 waterbottles and some plastic Walmart platforms on my carbon tri bike with the fancy component group (sadly not electic) and rode it in a bike tour with 32,000 other slowpokes. I'll tell you what i told the guy who asked me why the heck i was tooling around on a carbon TT?, "its the only bike i have"... For what i spent on it, i guess i could have picked up a lower end road bike, a hybrid to ride to the train, and a low-end mountain bike, but i do tri's, albeit slowly, so thats what i focused on for now. If i wanted a bike to fit my speed, i'd have gotten a steel touring bike, but why make things harder on myself? That said, i do try to minimize weight on race days. If you really want to see a bike not used to its potential, you should see me riding to a swim workout, down in my aerobars feeling like a pro, but i have a very bulky backpack catching the breeze... |
| 2012-07-03 3:55 PM in reply to: #4292245 |
Master 1967 | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose bcagle25 - 2012-07-03 9:09 AM More importantly if you are one of the athletes that weigh down your SC, shiv, etc with 4 water bottles, a bento box, and numerous other objects that negate any real aero savings you gained with the bike, why do you buy the high end bike vs another bike. I race Ironman, which requires a sh1t-ton of nutrition and hydration on the course. I should add that to a cheaper/heavier/less aero bike so I can be slower? Got it. Makes complete sense. Thanks so much for your thoughtful inquiry. |
| 2012-07-03 4:10 PM in reply to: #4292323 |
Champion 5781 Northridge, California | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose Leegoocrap - 2012-07-03 7:35 AM tech_geezer - 2012-07-03 10:30 AM I bought the most ridiculous bike I could find for my 60th birthday. That was the point. That is what I wanted. I could easily afford it. I may not be able to keep up with skinny, young bike racers on the road. Heck, I can't keep up with the fat guys on mountain bikes on the road. But I can outspend almost anybody in the bike shop. And I really like nice bikes. I appreciate the engineering, efficiency, and singleness of purpose of a TdF bike. So, I bought one of my own. TW
A post that would have made Ayn Rand smile. Bravo! Hmm...I would have thought AR would have assumed that someone who could afford uber-gear would necessarily be a uber-human who wouldn't be getting pwned by lazy-by-definition parasites on cheap mountain bikes. Just saying. |
| 2012-07-03 4:18 PM in reply to: #4293465 |
Extreme Veteran 601 Cold Spring, NY | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose tcovert - 2012-07-03 5:10 PM There must be a forum tool that automatically moves any thread that mentions Ayn Rand (or Rand Paul) or Karl Marx to Cup o' Joe. Clearly its past the point of return at that point Leegoocrap - 2012-07-03 7:35 AM tech_geezer - 2012-07-03 10:30 AM I bought the most ridiculous bike I could find for my 60th birthday. That was the point. That is what I wanted. I could easily afford it. I may not be able to keep up with skinny, young bike racers on the road. Heck, I can't keep up with the fat guys on mountain bikes on the road. But I can outspend almost anybody in the bike shop. And I really like nice bikes. I appreciate the engineering, efficiency, and singleness of purpose of a TdF bike. So, I bought one of my own. TW
A post that would have made Ayn Rand smile. Bravo! Hmm...I would have thought AR would have assumed that someone who could afford uber-gear would necessarily be a uber-human who wouldn't be getting pwned by lazy-by-definition parasites on cheap mountain bikes. Just saying.  ) |
| 2012-07-03 4:21 PM in reply to: #4293465 |
Champion 10018 , Minnesota Bronze member | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose Every time I lift my carbon frame bike to put it in the car/hang in my garage, I think "I am SO glad this things weighs so little." That alone is worth the money. Yeah, I could lose about 30 lbs (ok, at least) and I like to carry two water bottles. But dang, that frame is pretty and I love carrying it around with my pinkie finger. |
| 2012-07-03 4:27 PM in reply to: #4292245 |
Expert 2355 Madison, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose For all the responses that have been posted in less then 12 hours and a severe backlashing I have received from this, all b/c I asked a single question. Maybe it was loaded, maybe I used the wrong language, my apologies if that is the case, it was simply a question and I have been taken apart numerous times on this thread for it. I never knew BT was like this, ST would even have been a more lively and positive conversation then this. For all that I have contributed to this site, helped others, encouraged others, etc. This has lead to a big turn off for me from BT. I simply don't get it, I got the answer from a select few, while everyone else mostly didn't answer but thought to give me their two cents and why I "care" so much about the personal choices. Why? Because I am curious that is why. Did you buy it because you simply like to buy nice toys, are you buying for another reason? I didn't know and that is why I asked the question. Sorry for roughing so many feathers today. |
| 2012-07-03 4:28 PM in reply to: #4292245 |
Master 2356 Westlake Village , Ca. | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose I do it to get chicks.....as with everything I do in life....as well as everything every other male does in life. It can all be traced back to that simple premise....to impress. |
| 2012-07-03 5:19 PM in reply to: #4293482 |
| 79 | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose bcagle25 - 2012-07-03 5:27 PM I never knew BT was like this, ST would even have been a more lively and positive conversation then this. Try it and compare. Guarantee you will be terrified of ST posters... |
| 2012-07-03 5:30 PM in reply to: #4292245 |
| Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose Oh puhlease. Don't get so dramatic over anonymous internet postings And ST more positive and lively. Positive you say.. mmmmkay. Lively. No Doubt Edited by ChrisM 2012-07-03 5:36 PM |
| 2012-07-03 5:32 PM in reply to: #4293482 |
Pro 5892 , New Hampshire | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose @bcagle25, no need to apologize, you just asked a question. Yes, it can be interpreted to be a bit condescending towards spending the money, but I don't think that was your intent. I can't see anything wrong with spending money on your hobby, especially if it's one that will actually improve your life/health. I do like nice things (although I wouldn't call it a toy...) and when I spend money, I'd rather buy something I will be happy with, than to buy something I will think "what if...". In the long run, I doubt I spend more by buying what I want the first time around, rather then buying something, selling it, buying something else, selling that, etc. I do work hard for my money so I do think twice before paying for something. But I'm also quite patient and can recognize a good deal when I see one. Of all I have in my bikes, I haven't paid more than 40-50% of retail for anything. |
| 2012-07-03 5:37 PM in reply to: #4293483 |
Master 2236 Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose Fastyellow - 2012-07-03 4:28 PM I do it to get chicks.....as with everything I do in life....as well as everything every other male does in life. It can all be traced back to that simple premise....to impress. I'm do allot of chicks, they must be too intimidated to approach me.... |
| 2012-07-03 5:48 PM in reply to: #4293561 |
Veteran 732 Pittsburgh, PA | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose Av8rTx - 2012-07-03 5:37 PM Fastyellow - 2012-07-03 4:28 PM I'm do allot of chicks, they must be too intimidated to approach me....
um... I think allot of chicks you'm do is intimidated. But not by your bike. Edited by chayes 2012-07-03 5:49 PM |
| 2012-07-03 5:53 PM in reply to: #4292245 |
Expert 932 Chandler, AZ | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose This is incredible...A thread like this gets 90 replies within 8 hours while a thread I started about the smartest way to get back into running after an injury got TWO replies in 2 days.
What's going on around here?... |
| 2012-07-03 5:56 PM in reply to: #4292245 |
Veteran 393 | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose I bought the good stuff up front because I HATE buying cheap stuff, only to turn around and buy better stuff later. That is a waste of money. "Start cheap, then get better stuff later." Well guess what? I just wasted the money I spent on the cheap stuff. That being said, I bought a $4k bike but haven't junked it up with gimmicky bottles and bentoo box stuff. I have one regular bottle on the aerobars and one under the back seat ala Chris Lieto. Nothing else on the frame. I got a good aero helmet and decent shoes, saddle, powertap and pedals. BUT I don't plan on buying $3000 wheels to save 5-10 minutes over my stock 40mm wheels with a rear cover. At some point the madness has to stop! Still, I've spent a lot less than some guys I know have on their "hobbies" and I get more satisfaction out of it than they do with their impulsively purchased and rarely used Harley/boat/golf/4 wheeler/guns/etc. |
| 2012-07-03 6:03 PM in reply to: #4292245 |
Regular 266 Ocala, FL | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose I just can't stop thinking about hearing "Your bike Sucks!", followed by "Get off my Lawn!" somewhere out on the bike course. |
| 2012-07-03 6:06 PM in reply to: #4292326 |
| Greenville, SC | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose psycleridr - 2012-07-03 10:36 AM why do you really care what someone does with thier money? +1 |
| 2012-07-03 6:11 PM in reply to: #4293590 |
| Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose JasenGuy - 2012-07-03 6:53 PM This is incredible...A thread like this gets 90 replies within 8 hours while a thread I started about the smartest way to get back into running after an injury got TWO replies in 2 days.
What's going on around here?... A lot of people tend to shy away from answering stuff best left to a doctor and/or coach and/or physical therapist. You're hurt, how you're hurt, how you're vulnerable and such is not something that can be well helped via text on the internet. |
| 2012-07-03 6:14 PM in reply to: #4292245 |
Regular 295 | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose bcagle25 - 2012-07-03 9:09 AM This post is not meant to be demeaning or looking down on people on any way, I simply am curious and looking for some answers/reasons. For those of you that buy the high end uber bikes, deep dish wheels, and all the aero-gear that money can buy what is your reason? More importantly if you are one of the athletes that weigh down your SC, shiv, etc with 4 water bottles, a bento box, and numerous other objects that negate any real aero savings you gained with the bike, why do you buy the high end bike vs another bike. I see bikes uber bikes racked at IM's stopping waiting to go to the porto when all those precious seconds of savings they bought with the bike go down the tube (no pun intended). Is it simply that its a matter that your finances allow you to buy whatever, or are you buying these bikes for the aero savings, to look good, because the bike looks good, what is the reason? Because my wife lets me. |
| 2012-07-03 6:19 PM in reply to: #4293612 |
Expert 932 Chandler, AZ | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose DanielG - 2012-07-03 4:11 PM JasenGuy - 2012-07-03 6:53 PM A lot of people tend to shy away from answering stuff best left to a doctor and/or coach and/or physical therapist. You're hurt, how you're hurt, how you're vulnerable and such is not something that can be well helped via text on the internet. This is incredible...A thread like this gets 90 replies within 8 hours while a thread I started about the smartest way to get back into running after an injury got TWO replies in 2 days.
What's going on around here?...
Right...I'm sure that's it. I guess 99% of the questions (actually triathlon related) in here would be better left to a coach too, no?? Or maybe I'm the only person who has ever had to come back after an injury and nobody in here has any experience with that or any advice they could offer...Yeah, I'm sure that's what it is and it has nothing to do with the fact that if a thread isn't "popcorn worthy" it's just not interesting... Edited by JasenGuy 2012-07-03 6:38 PM |
| 2012-07-03 6:44 PM in reply to: #4293621 |
| Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose JasenGuy - 2012-07-03 7:19 PM DanielG - 2012-07-03 4:11 PM JasenGuy - 2012-07-03 6:53 PM A lot of people tend to shy away from answering stuff best left to a doctor and/or coach and/or physical therapist. You're hurt, how you're hurt, how you're vulnerable and such is not something that can be well helped via text on the internet. This is incredible...A thread like this gets 90 replies within 8 hours while a thread I started about the smartest way to get back into running after an injury got TWO replies in 2 days.
What's going on around here?...
Right...I'm sure that's it. I guess 99% of the questions (actually triathlon related) in here would be better left to a coach too, no?? Or maybe I'm the only person who has ever had to come back after an injury and nobody in here has any experience with that or any advice they could offer...Yeah, I'm sure that's what it is and it has nothing to do with the fact that if a thread isn't "popcorn worthy" it's just not interesting... Believe what you will. You asked an honest question. I answered with why I don't answer such questions. Oh well, enjoy your evening. |
| 2012-07-03 6:55 PM in reply to: #4293651 |
Expert 932 Chandler, AZ | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose DanielG - 2012-07-03 4:44 PM JasenGuy - 2012-07-03 7:19 PM Believe what you will. You asked an honest question. I answered with why I don't answer such questions. Oh well, enjoy your evening. DanielG - 2012-07-03 4:11 PM JasenGuy - 2012-07-03 6:53 PM A lot of people tend to shy away from answering stuff best left to a doctor and/or coach and/or physical therapist. You're hurt, how you're hurt, how you're vulnerable and such is not something that can be well helped via text on the internet. This is incredible...A thread like this gets 90 replies within 8 hours while a thread I started about the smartest way to get back into running after an injury got TWO replies in 2 days.
What's going on around here?...
Right...I'm sure that's it. I guess 99% of the questions (actually triathlon related) in here would be better left to a coach too, no?? Or maybe I'm the only person who has ever had to come back after an injury and nobody in here has any experience with that or any advice they could offer...Yeah, I'm sure that's what it is and it has nothing to do with the fact that if a thread isn't "popcorn worthy" it's just not interesting...
Actually, you answered with why a lot of other people don't answer such questions, but I appreciate your response and understand why you wouldn't reply. (I wouldn't answer it either due to my lack of experience.) I guess there is a trend here as to which type of threads get the most input...such is the internet, I suppose. You enjoy your evening as well. |
| 2012-07-03 7:31 PM in reply to: #4293621 |
Champion 7347 SRQ, FL | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose JasenGuy - 2012-07-03 7:19 PM DanielG - 2012-07-03 4:11 PM JasenGuy - 2012-07-03 6:53 PM A lot of people tend to shy away from answering stuff best left to a doctor and/or coach and/or physical therapist. You're hurt, how you're hurt, how you're vulnerable and such is not something that can be well helped via text on the internet. This is incredible...A thread like this gets 90 replies within 8 hours while a thread I started about the smartest way to get back into running after an injury got TWO replies in 2 days.
What's going on around here?...
Right...I'm sure that's it. I guess 99% of the questions (actually triathlon related) in here would be better left to a coach too, no?? Or maybe I'm the only person who has ever had to come back after an injury and nobody in here has any experience with that or any advice they could offer...Yeah, I'm sure that's what it is and it has nothing to do with the fact that if a thread isn't "popcorn worthy" it's just not interesting... It's "popcorn worthy" because of the passive-aggressive tone of the OP. Topics like this come up at least every few months and the fireworks fly each time. |
| 2012-07-03 9:21 PM in reply to: #4293537 |
Expert 2355 Madison, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Why buy the expensive gear if you don't use it for it's main purpose swimtochina - 2012-07-03 5:19 PM bcagle25 - 2012-07-03 5:27 PM I never knew BT was like this, ST would even have been a more lively and positive conversation then this. Try it and compare. Guarantee you will be terrified of ST posters... Been posting on ST for two years, I'm not afraid and have actually made some really good friends at races on ST |
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