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2006-06-23 10:34 AM
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Very nice! Let me know how it rides. I'm really close to ordering a full tri bike from them after having rebuilt my road bike on their frame.


2006-06-23 10:46 AM
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Very nice.

Bike building can be quite fun.

Excellent job.
2006-06-24 12:13 AM
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So when do we get a review of the bike? Been out on it long enough to tell how you like it yet? Looks like I'll be getting a 780TT next week. I'm looking forward to assembling another.
2006-06-24 8:12 AM
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I've only been out for around 25' - playing around making sure everything is working the way it is supposed to. Seems good so far, not nearly as harsh as I was fearing (the carbon fork and seatpost seems to smooth out the ride a great deal over my Trek). It's definitely twitcher than my road bike (as is to be expected) but again, not as bad as I had feared for an aggressive bike. Right now the seat is around 78* and I have a 15cm drop from seat to aerobars.

I really like it (after only one ride) but I'll write some more once I get more time in the saddle.

Here's a pict just before the first ride

Oh and fully built it weighs around 18lbs

Shane



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2006-10-27 9:20 PM
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So after a season with this bike, what do you like and dislike about it? Why did you go with this frame over the 735? Your back wheel doesn't seem to be very close to the seat tube cutout, is this bc it won't go any closer, you just didn't put it closer, or some other reason?

I am seriously considering building one of these bikes and if you could answer any of those questions, I'd appreciate it.

-Joseph
2006-10-28 1:07 AM
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I'm sure that Shane will chime in here, too.  But I can say that the 735TT (which I built) actually has a deeper cutout, and you can actually get the wheel so close that it touches the frame.  I don't believe that you can do this with the 730, or at least not the model pictured above (not that it REALLY matters much).

I've been very happy with my frame so far.  The only way I would trade it is if I were to get a free or cheap high end CF frame.  I've done an IM distance ride and multiple HIM distances (training, not racing), as well as sprint and oly races.  I've done mega hill climbs, flat rides, and rolling hills.  It's been great for me under all conditions.  In fact, I tried to switch back to my road bike at the end of the season and only lasted two rides before I brought the tri bike back out.  The frame is well worth the money, as long as it fits.



2006-10-28 11:47 AM
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runningfoo - 2006-10-28 1:07 AM

the 735TT (which I built) actually has a deeper cutout, and you can actually get the wheel so close that it touches the frame.  I don't believe that you can do this with the 730, or at least not the model pictured above (not that it REALLY matters much)



Why does it not matter much? I would think you want it as close as possible otherwise it seems kind of useless to have a cutout.
2006-10-28 12:08 PM
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My understanding is that you've got to get the wheel in at 1/8" or less in order to really reap the aerodynamic benefits of the rear wheel cutout, which would arguably be quite small anyway.  On a bike with horizontal dropouts, you risk having the wheel slip a bit under stress.  I'm sure that having the wheel rub the frame would more than negate any aero benefits of the cutout.  I personally run mine at about 1/4" for this reason.

Most rear wheel cutouts are either there to look pretty or to allow for the wheel to fit in smaller tri geometry frames.  I would argue that very few actually achieve measurable aerodynamic benefits.

2006-11-17 1:50 PM
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2006-11-17 8:25 PM
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Nice build!

Welcome to the Leader club. 

2006-11-17 9:53 PM
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After one season I can say that I am very happy with it - I actually saw another one at a race (the guy had a top ten bike split so I guess I can't blame the bike for being slow ). However, I am very comfortable on the bike (up to HIM so far) and faster (probably just due to more training) and faster on the run (again probably just the extra training). It is more comfortable from a road vibration point of view than my road bike and I've gotten myself setup in a pretty agressive position (about 15-18cm of drop - I think it's closer to 18cm right now) with a comfortable hip angle.

I would like to be able to run the wheel closer (it can actually go close enough to touch but I would have to remove the hex bolts to do that and I'm concerned that the wheel might rub the front derailler cable. However, I don't think it's a big deal as I'm not finishing seconds from the front

I'm very happy with this bike and am quite sure that I have years of training before I will feel that I need a better bike - not that I won't want one but that's another story.

Speedball - nice build - enjoy

Shane


2007-08-28 5:55 AM
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Wow!  Nice builds guys...

Seriously considering a build.  runningfoo let me know that they're running a sale on the 735TT (thanks Dave).  Lots of questions, though...

Where did you guys get all the specs for compatible components?:
BB, headset, steerer tube diameter...front derailleur is braze on?

I'm about to press the 'checkout' button on the Leader website http://www.leaderbikestore.com/pd_ld_735tt.cfm  but wanted to get an idea first of what new parts I might need to buy.

Your help is much appreciated (as cold sweat drips off my brow )...



Edited by sparco 2007-08-28 6:10 AM
2007-08-28 5:12 PM
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Best of luck with the build if you decide to go the Leader route; I haven't regretted my decision and don't plan to upgrade - the 730TT is plenty of bike for me.

If you are looking at the sale 735's, talk to them; they did have some this year that had the cutout in the wrong spot and they were selling them on ebay cheaper earlier this year. If they are the same ones, the wheel will not line up in the cutout the way runningfoo's does. If this is the case, getting the 08 735 or going with a 730 might be a better plan.

Headset - bought the one from Leader - but you can find that headset elsewhere if you want; it's a common headset.

BB - is a standard road bike BB - I think it is on their website but I can't recall off hand. It might be easiest just to let the LBS install this and buy from them.

Steerer tube - 1 1/4"; I didn't buy from them, instead I went with a Real Design with a slightly different rake (3mm different I think) for about half the price.

FD is braze-on and apparently running compact cranks can be a problem (I don't have any first hand experience with this but I've heard it from a couple of people).

Shane
2007-08-28 5:19 PM
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gsmacleod - 2007-08-28 5:12 PM If you are looking at the sale 735's, talk to them; they did have some this year that had the cutout in the wrong spot and they were selling them on ebay cheaper earlier this year. If they are the same ones, the wheel will not line up in the cutout the way runningfoo's does. If this is the case, getting the 08 735 or going with a 730 might be a better plan.

Thanks for the heads up.  I did notice that someone was selling a few on eBay.  I'll make sure and call. 

Also, thanks for all the additional info.  You'd think a company that's in the business of selling frames would give you that info right on the website...maybe I'm looking in the wrong place...

2007-08-28 7:16 PM
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I knew I saw it somewhere when I was planning on building mine:

07 Model

http://cgi.ebay.ca/NEW-2007-735TT-TRI-TIME-TRIAL-TRIATHLON-TT-BIKE-...

This has the steerer tube (1 1/8 not 1 1/4 like I said eariler - typo ), BB, etc.

Also, you can see how the wheel will line up with the cutout on the 07 frame. The ebay ad is definitely better than what is on their website; they should definitely fix that.

The 08 sounds promising; and they've fixed the FD braze on and cutout

http://cgi.ebay.ca/NEW-2008-735TT-TRI-TIME-TRIAL-TRIATHLON-TT-BIKE-...

Shane
2007-08-28 9:53 PM
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Give them a call on the # listed on their website. Their sales/support people were very helpful when I called. They will help you to make sure you have all of the proper component specs. They can also help figure out which frame to get (2007 vs 2008), particularly if you let them know that you'd like to go compact.

Good luck with the build, and make sure you post pics afterwards!


2007-08-30 9:30 AM
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I took the plunge!  Ordered the frame last night.  This was Brian's response to my question about the frame: 

There is no problem with the dropouts. The cutout was made a little high so the wheel is not aligned with the cutout perfectly. The frame will build and ride perfect though.

I was just worried about dropout alignment, but the high cutout is O.K. by me...getting the wheel a few millimeters closer to the frame shouldn't impact my novice performance much .

Well, I've got all winter to build this thing.  I guess I'll start with the BB and cranks.  Gonna go Ultegra for now...eBay and Nashbar...I may have the LBS install.

Wish me luck...I'll send pics with progress as I go (may only be once a month though...heh)...



Edited by sparco 2007-08-30 9:43 AM
2007-08-31 6:00 AM
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Shaweet!  Ordered the 2007 735TT 50cm (in black).  They were out of stock.  They called while I was on my commute home yesterday (yes, I did pull over to talk).  After some discussion and quite a few questions, they'll be sending the 2006 instead (in red) WITHOUT the slightly high cutout.  Ordered the Cane Creek IS6 while I was at it.  Auction bids are in for Ultegra cranks and BB, front and rear derailleur, and seatpost.  If I don't win those, Nashbar isn't that much more.  I've got most of the other parts I need, so I may be able to get through this project for $650 out of pocket.

I stopped by the LBS yesterday.  They can do the BB/crank install for $20.  They'll do the headset install for $10.  I'm seriously thinking about having them do the BB/crank install.  This is WAY too much fun... 



Edited by sparco 2007-08-31 6:16 AM
2007-08-31 7:17 AM
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That's great - I love the red 735 and now you'll be able to get the wheel right into the cutout.

The BB is great to get the LBS to do unless you want to buy the tool (and unlike other tools like a chain whip, cassette tool, etc it won't see much use). Other than that and cutting the fork, I did everything else myself.

Have fun, if you want to do this as cheaply as possible, just be patient - I think it took me about three months to get all the pieces together.

Shane
2007-08-31 3:16 PM
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If you purchase a new Ultegra crankset, the BB tool comes with it. Heck, I've got two if you want me to ship you one, Sal! It's good to have one around, just in case you get squeaky cranks and want to reset the BB.

The headset is a piece of cake, particularly because it's integrated. The only tricky part is getting the bottom flange onto the fork and down all the way. I say do it all yourself. It's great fun and gives you a real sense of accomplishment!

Enjoy the bike. I haven't seen the red in person. I hope you like it!
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