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2012-11-30 11:51 AM
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goran007 - 2012-11-30 10:35 AM Maybe Ultraman is the new Ironman? lol .... 6.2 miles swim, 261 miles bike and 52 miles run. They just finished the race last weekend, I believe. Now to me that is INSANE! http://ultramanlive.com/2008-ultraman-world-championships/2012-day-3-overall-results/[/QUOTE]

 

Funny thing is I was looking at this and wondering that same thing...haha....but got to say once I get a few more IM in me I would consider this just to try......



2012-11-30 11:53 AM
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Jorgito22 - 2012-11-30 5:58 AM

With the recent articles about the 500,000 person to finish an Ironman, list of the toughest endurance sports  (Hawaii I believe was mentioned but not very high) and all the conversations about how the Ironman is the new 10k....So it had me thinking is just finishing an Ironman not considered a outstanding accomplishment  in SOME CIRCLES, will there now be a certain finish time that would be considered a great feat outside of just finishing?(outside of the Pro finish time )What would that time be? and  how would you categorize  finish times (ex: sub 9 = pro)

this is just merely a topic to discuss

Just curious of people's thought

Really, only 500,000 people have ever finished an Ironman?  Dude, that's how many people run marathons in the US on a yearly basis.  So I don't know about prestigious but if your number is right IM finishers are definitely a very exclusive group.  Wow...

thats a good point...

2012-11-30 12:11 PM
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tri808 - 2012-11-30 9:48 AM

I'm with Acumenjay and Tom on this one.  Who cares what level of "prestige" an IM has?  I don't do triathlons for prestige.  The people I train with, and the people I race with are the only people I care to even discuss triathlons with anyway.  My goal is to crush their dreams, and I want them to know it.  Other than that, I couldn't care less if anyone else never even knew I raced triathlons.

right on bra'

Besides, it's not really IM unless you do Kona

2012-11-30 12:11 PM
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Jorgito22 - 2012-11-30 12:53 PM
Lock_N_Load - 2012-11-30 12:33 PM
Jorgito22 - 2012-11-30 5:58 AM

With the recent articles about the 500,000 person to finish an Ironman, list of the toughest endurance sports  (Hawaii I believe was mentioned but not very high) and all the conversations about how the Ironman is the new 10k....So it had me thinking is just finishing an Ironman not considered a outstanding accomplishment  in SOME CIRCLES, will there now be a certain finish time that would be considered a great feat outside of just finishing?(outside of the Pro finish time )What would that time be? and  how would you categorize  finish times (ex: sub 9 = pro)

this is just merely a topic to discuss

Just curious of people's thought

Really, only 500,000 people have ever finished an Ironman?  Dude, that's how many people run marathons in the US on a yearly basis.  So I don't know about prestigious but if your number is right IM finishers are definitely a very exclusive group.  Wow...

 

thats a good point...

I've done a bunch of standalone marathons, and they are all special. None of them were easy, a couple were downright brutal. All of them are an accomplishment that I am proud of. I did them for me mainly, and a few I did for friends, to help pace or support, or just for fun. I can't imagine doing them for bragging rights or to impress someone else.

I'm about to start training for my first Ironman. Prestige? You have got to be kidding. I'm doing it because I want to, feel I can do it, and because a good friend is going through the first time experience with me. I just want to hear Mike Reilly call my name, I couldn't care less what anyone else thinks. 

2012-11-30 12:11 PM
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Lock_N_Load - 2012-11-30 11:33 AM

Really, only 500,000 people have ever finished an Ironman?  Dude, that's how many people run marathons in the US on a yearly basis.  So I don't know about prestigious but if your number is right IM finishers are definitely a very exclusive group.  Wow...

 

http://www.marathonguide.com/features/Articles/2010RecapOverview.cfm

 

look like 503,000 in 2010 finish marathons.  Then again I know people who do 5 to 10 a year so really the number of unique people might be way less. 

2012-11-30 12:19 PM
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Lock_N_Load - 2012-11-30 11:33 AM

Really, only 500,000 people have ever finished an Ironman?  Dude, that's how many people run marathons in the US on a yearly basis.  So I don't know about prestigious but if your number is right IM finishers are definitely a very exclusive group.  Wow...

 

http://www.marathonguide.com/features/Articles/2010RecapOverview.cfm

 

look like 503,000 in 2010 finish marathons.  Then again I know people who do 5 to 10 a year so really the number of unique people might be way less. 

Yes, I bet the same effect holds true for the IM finishes.  I'd like a link to that article that states the 500K number for IM finishes.  I have not seen that.



2012-11-30 12:21 PM
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2012-11-30 12:34 PM
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Goosedog - 2012-11-30 8:33 AM

Cutoff should be 12 hours.  Obviously.

 

12????? ha!  so cliche 

You have to appease the floaters, coasters and walkers somehow.

 

 



Hey, someone has to pay for the pro's to race! If you cut out all the people who finish in over 12 hours... a huge chunk of profit is GONE!

2012-11-30 12:34 PM
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Lock_N_Load - 2012-11-30 1:19 PM
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Really, only 500,000 people have ever finished an Ironman?  Dude, that's how many people run marathons in the US on a yearly basis.  So I don't know about prestigious but if your number is right IM finishers are definitely a very exclusive group.  Wow...

 

http://www.marathonguide.com/features/Articles/2010RecapOverview.cfm

 

look like 503,000 in 2010 finish marathons.  Then again I know people who do 5 to 10 a year so really the number of unique people might be way less. 

Yes, I bet the same effect holds true for the IM finishes.  I'd like a link to that article that states the 500K number for IM finishes.  I have not seen that.

Yeah, they said when we were at Tremblant that of the 2100 races only 800 were first timers.... 

2012-11-30 12:52 PM
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Quick point: 500K of 7billion is .00007 or .007%
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Lock_N_Load - 2012-11-30 11:33 AM

Really, only 500,000 people have ever finished an Ironman?  Dude, that's how many people run marathons in the US on a yearly basis.  So I don't know about prestigious but if your number is right IM finishers are definitely a very exclusive group.  Wow...

 

http://www.marathonguide.com/features/Articles/2010RecapOverview.cfm

 

look like 503,000 in 2010 finish marathons.  Then again I know people who do 5 to 10 a year so really the number of unique people might be way less. 

Yes, I bet the same effect holds true for the IM finishes.  I'd like a link to that article that states the 500K number for IM finishes.  I have not seen that.

Yeah, they said when we were at Tremblant that of the 2100 races only 800 were first timers.... 



Of the 3,000 at IMAZ, only 900 were first-timers.


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mr2tony - 2012-11-30 1:44 PM
juniperjen - 2012-11-30 12:34 PM
Lock_N_Load - 2012-11-30 1:19 PM
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Lock_N_Load - 2012-11-30 11:33 AM

Really, only 500,000 people have ever finished an Ironman?  Dude, that's how many people run marathons in the US on a yearly basis.  So I don't know about prestigious but if your number is right IM finishers are definitely a very exclusive group.  Wow...

 

http://www.marathonguide.com/features/Articles/2010RecapOverview.cfm

 

look like 503,000 in 2010 finish marathons.  Then again I know people who do 5 to 10 a year so really the number of unique people might be way less. 

Yes, I bet the same effect holds true for the IM finishes.  I'd like a link to that article that states the 500K number for IM finishes.  I have not seen that.

Yeah, they said when we were at Tremblant that of the 2100 races only 800 were first timers.... 

Of the 3,000 at IMAZ, only 900 were first-timers.

Way to go, 2Goggs.  You killed the thread.

2012-11-30 2:25 PM
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It still feels pretty prestigious to me.

In fact, I am pretty sure that I am the bomb for having finished IMAZ.... How the heck do you do that pink font thing?

Seriously. Last year as I was treading water to do my first IM (in Kona via lottery) the guy next to me in the water said, "you know more people have an MBA from Harvard than have finished the Hawaii Ironman?" I thought that was pretty darn cool. I don't know if it is true or not but I have repeated it often.

Finishing an IM is still a pretty staggering feat as long as you aren't 'hanging out' with a bunch of people that have already done it. As others have said, a lot less than 500,000 individual finishers as many have done multiple.
2012-11-30 3:03 PM
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Simply finishing an ironman is an impressive feat whether you're first or last. To me it was slightly short of a miracle that i finished after crashing head long into the infamous wall on the bike, having to rest in the medical tent for a whole 40 minutes and then jog my way to a 16:14:xx finish, still can't believe I did that! Not many people can even conceptualize the concept of racing 140.6 miles, none of my friends can! Just remember if you finish no matter what you are part of the elite club of Ironmen and Ironwomen!
2012-11-30 5:07 PM
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IM Finish will always be awesome to me!

2012-11-30 5:27 PM
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IM's are dumb


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"IM Finish will always be awesome to me!"

100% Agree.

A a matter of fact, I haven't considering participation in Ironman as "prestigious" but more like an honor.

You can be the biggest football fan in the world but you'll never snap the ball on the 50 yard line at the Superbowl. You can be the biggest motor racing fan but you will never drive a qualifying lap at Monaco.

If you are a huge fan of triathlon and its history and lore, and I absoltuely am, you can race in the very same race as Dave Scott, Mark Allen, Scott Tinley, Scott Molina, Paula Newby-Fraser, Craig Alexander, Chris McCormack. You are in that race, literally.

When you get off the plane in Kona the week before the race the hugeness of the history hits you. You become a very, very small part of something significant in endurance sports. You feel it. You think about Dave Scott and Mark Allen coming through that airport in 1989, the "IronWar" year. It sends chills down your spine.

I've raced Kona and I've covered it as a journalist. Both times I was awed by the event.

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metafizx - 2012-11-30 6:07 PM

IM Finish will always be awesome to me!

^^^ Winner, winner chicken dinner

2012-11-30 6:25 PM
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I think finishing an Ironman is a pretty big deal still. I'll never do it in 9 hours and could see how to pros and FOP age groupers who do several a year, like it's their job, might not have the same view as myself. Everybody I know thinks I'm crazy for signing up, so I'd say from the average joe's viewpoint it's still a pretty big deal.

Come Nov 2nd around 7pm (hopefully) I'll fully understand just how big a deal it is.

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Most people in the western world would dread the thought of getting up at 5am to DRIVE A CAR 140 miles.....

An ironman, for many, is simply inconceivable.

Ask everyone you meet this week if they will get up with you on Sunday morning and drive 140 miles just for fun....see how many say yes.....then offer to leave the car at home and swim/cycle/run that same distance....

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Hahaha! I'm sketched out, but, I totally want to see if I can do this...I'm in 100%



2012-12-01 1:44 AM
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Prestigious is the wrong adjective it's a personal milestone the conclusion of a journey. 17 hours cut off here in Australia. People here unless they are involved probably never heard of Ironman despite producing some of the worlds best endurance triathletes. IM for me is a personal goal I don't give a sh*t what anyone else thinks really except my little girl who every time I doubt my ability says mum you can do it.
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@ Z2A; I really like what you said. I hope you don't mind if I paraphrase and steal. Being surrounded by exceptional people, and then considering yourself average is a problem of perspective.
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@ Tom D; To me, "Intense Hobby" seems like an oxymoron. I'm just saying...
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It's a personal thing. I just finished my first IM in 16:28. I was training to go faster, but a lot of factors made it impossible for me to replicate what I'd done in training. Finishing was my ultimate goal anyway, but a person still has to be in pretty good shape to cover that distance in 17 hours.

The "walkers" comment got me. I walked a half marathon once while injured. It was harder to walk 13.1 than to run 26.2, I kid you not. It took nearly 4 hours. I will never do that crap again. Walking may seem easy 'cuz we all do it every day, but try walking for hours and hours. My feet and back were killing me by the end. I wouldn't take it lightly!

Anyway, back to it being a personal thing. I have NEVER been athletic. I have no natural athletic ability. I tried to do sports in high school. I practiced twice as much as other people just so that I could stay slightly below average. I have a $600 road bike. I finished dead last in the swim in an Oly tri last summer and was able to improve my swim enough to complete the swim in an IM where a lot of people didn't make the cutoff. I busted a$$ to be good enough to finish in time. I had injuries, I had illness, I had work stress and overtime and life responsibilities that wouldn't just go away because I wanted to do an Ironman. To me, just to finish is absolutely amazing.

If I could quit my job and afford a coach and drop a few thousand on a road bike and make triathlon the biggest priority in my life, yeah, I'd probably finish a lot faster. Then again, I may start to get really tired of running, biking, and swimming.

I set my goals for me. If someone wants to diss me for not being faster or going farther and imply that it's because I'm not working hard, screw them. They don't know.

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