Regulating violent games, movies and on TV?? (Page 2)

I kind of understand where Cruse is coming from.  The pharmaceutical companies typically don't test these drugs on people under 18.  It's tough to do so.  They are finding that antidepressants and other drugs act much differently in the developing brain of a minor than in an adult. 

Sounds just like guns to me. Millions of guns have never and will never kill anyone. Sometimes they are used irresponsibly or inappropriately.

A lot more people die from meds than die from guns. So why aren't we talking about meds?

Most likely has to do with the $185m vs. the $20m Gomes posted earlier...

except most of his examples (the ... in my quoted post) WERE adults.  the full article that he linked (which i read) was kind of...speculative and crazy sounding.  could have benefitted from 10 mg of escitalopram. 

Sorry, I didn't read the article.  I guess I'm making a different point (?).  I don't know.  

How do you deal with the parents that are copping out though?  Should my child be in danger b/c another parent is not doing a good job.  How do you suggest getting other parents to step up other than legislating?  We have a problem- how do you suggest we address it? 

I'm not painting with a wide brush at all when I stated what I wrote.  I'm also not calling out all people on meds, all meds, or even all mentally ill.  What I AM stating is that guns don't fire themselves, period... and video games, movies, and TV don't make people do things any more than Heavy Metal music made kids commit suicide in the 80's.... but here is a commonality with ALL of those shooters and it is something that indisputably affects their thinking and the very chemistry of their brains, which is what determines their actions.  It may not even be a case of taking the meds that causes the issues, it could be as simple as someone going off their meds. 

THIS is as close to a "smoking gun" as there is, yet it is not getting the attention it deserves.

I have 5 kids and always say if you think they are all the same you haven't had enough.  With 2 boys and 3 girls I know first hand all kids are different.  Never said my kids were angels.  I will say none of them have ever been in serious trouble - no detention, principal etc.

However, my point was keeping the kids off the electronic boxes and not passing the buck is simple, not easy but simple.  Parents that say they can't control what their kids do/see/play are not doing their jobs.  It is not easy, it takes time, plenty of family and face to face time but it is do-able and totally worth it.

No idea, never said I did.  We can't control people but that is not the fault of the companies making the video games, movies, computers, phones etc. 

One thought is to hold parents accountable for their children's actions depending on age.

I agree.  We have found it to be both easy and simple....we're just not home much.  Our kids are too involved in other activities to be home sitting in front of a TV or computer.....we have pushed outside activities for them since they were old enough to talk.  We practically raised them at the local Y, and now being active and involved is all they know.  We own an X-box and a Wii system...and they play sometimes....my son has all the shoot-em-up games...so far he hasn't exhibited any violent tendencies......but I'll keep an eye out on him in case he goes rogue. 

Yeah, it's parenting.....but it's not rocket science.

They would have been too busy spending the last 25 years moving falling blocks into place to learn to farm!

I stated clearly that when you tie the fate of the parent to the actions of the child that they created, they nurtured (or didn't), you'll have incentivized more involved parenting.

btw, someone mentioned good parents can raise "evil" kids.  I couldn't disagree with that assertion more strongly.  I've never ever seen or heard of an "evil" child.  That said, I've seen plenty of sperm and egg donors that do an incredible job of fricking up their kids' lives from day 1...and like any rule, there are exceptions...tragedies that occur at no fault of the parent or child can obviously create big problems.

btw, of course no child is exactly the same...I get that.  I'm a dad.  A "good" parent who is successful raising 2 well-adjusted kids needs to be equipped and ready to "shift on the fly" if a parenting style that may have worked with the 1st 2 doesn't work with the 3rd.   

btw, if parents actually stepped up to the plate and pledged to suffer consequences for the actions of their children, I think you'd definitely see results.  

^Stephen Colbert says everything best.  

Missouri proposes tax on violent video games like Dance Central 3

What I was agreeing with was the part I underlined, bolded and put in italic, we should not paint with a broad brush.

I don't think that everyone taking those drugs should be lumped into or with a group of mass murderers. I stand by my statemtnt that it is irresponsible NOT to look into those drugs in relationship to what those people I listed did.

Two things about when I used the term "children" I'm in my mid 50's have children in their mid 30's so that is my frame of reference when using the term children. 2nd the youth, people you consider children (18 & under) are prescribed anti psychotic medication at a rate of 3 to 1 of other countries. I am not trying to make any connection about our murder rate being relatively the same as our prescription drug use compared to other countries.

I understand that every thing that has a benefit as you mentioned about your meds has some negative attached, everything does without exception. One of the side effects of some anti psychotics are murderous tendencies, these are the things I consider poisonous to our youth, be you 33 or 13.

I'm not trying to say that anything should change from the way it is now, I'm for the most part very ignorant when it comes to mental illness and prescription drugs.

I do think when those who commit mass murder have a common denominator of anti psychotic drugs that it should be talked about, investigated and the media should be all over it. But they are not, they are talking about one of the lowest powered rifle bullets on the market and using dishonest reporting in an attempt to see it banned.

Now that I've said all that, I've come across a video that makes me wonder if heXX hasn't frozen over after the lil luv fest CD and I had here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpinCRaAQOk

Guns do not cause mass murder, they are just one of the tools sometimes used.

Seriously?  While I am a liberal, the content of my entertainment and art should not be government regulated.  Neither should guns be any more regulated than they are today.

Let's try regulating schools and the rehabilitation of our endangered youth.

And if you think that the government is regulating pornography, try accessing youporn on your mobile device or computer.  Unless YOU put a block of this content using SOFTWARE that YOU buy, anyone can access massive amounths of adult material.

Dang!  Teenagers have it made nowadays.   For me to just see still-shots back then, I had to risk life and limb sneaking into my brother's bedroom to find his hidden Playboy calendar.  Yes, the journey at times ended in beat-downs...but the few successes I had were well worth it.    Women are beautiful.

100% agree   parents get involved then the government doesn't have to do it