Open Water Sighting Technique
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2013-01-31 1:04 PM |
Member 25 | Subject: Open Water Sighting Technique Every video I've watched on open water sighting shows the swimmer sighting first and then turning their head to breathe. One video by an Olympic open water swimmer even specifically tells the viewer not to breathe first and then sight. I tried both of these techniques and find it much easier to execute and maintain rythym when I breathe first and then sight. Is there something I am missing about why I shouldn't do this if I am more comfortable with it. ----------------------- 2013 IMFL |
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2013-01-31 1:11 PM in reply to: #4603100 |
Expert 1028 Detroit, MI. Kinda. | Subject: RE: Open Water Sighting Technique I dunno... I'm trying to picture where exatly all of your limbs and torso are when you lift your head to sight. Are you sighting as your arm is recovering forward? Either way, sighting screws up your hydrodynamics. I think sighting before you breathe may do so a bit less, and uses the downward/forward thrust you're already creating to lift your head a bit. |
2013-01-31 1:18 PM in reply to: #4603100 |
Master 2010 Falls Church, VA | Subject: RE: Open Water Sighting Technique I would use whatever is most efficient for you. |
2013-01-31 1:46 PM in reply to: #4603100 |
Extreme Veteran 1136 | Subject: RE: Open Water Sighting Technique FWIW I am not the fastest swimmer on here by a long shot, but i'm pretty decent. That said, the reason I choose to sight first, then breathe is this: When you sight you are lifting your head much higher than when you breathe. I sight as I begin the stroke, so I have the most lifting power available. I lift my eyes above the water, then begin to drop my head back down as I turn to the side and breathe. That way as my arm reaches my hip i'm not trying to support the weight of my head out of the water... this would lead to a significant change in body position and really slow you down. If done as I described above, your body should remain flat in the water and you should still feel like you are swimming "over a barrel" so to speak. For reference, you head should not have to be out of the water at all when you breathe. This picture (just talking about the picture, not the article) looks pretty good: The picture below looks extremely bad. I wouldn't even have my head this far out of the water for sighting. http://yaymicro.com/stock-image/swimmer-breathing-performing-the-crawl-stroke/3194353 |
2013-02-01 11:30 AM in reply to: #4603100 |
Elite 3658 Roswell, GA | Subject: RE: Open Water Sighting Technique A little off topic, but I hope this helps. If you aren't a front of the pack swimmer you can often sight off the people next to you or the shore while you breath normally. At IM WI I swam one of the long sides of the course plus a turn with out ever sighting. |
2013-02-01 2:38 PM in reply to: #4604454 |
Member 25 | Subject: RE: Open Water Sighting Technique I'm not too concerned about sighting during the IMFL because I think I will be able to stay on course by watching the people next to me. I'm trying to fix a problem I had with a couple of open water Tris last year when I didn't always have someone next to me. |
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2013-02-01 4:05 PM in reply to: #4604783 |
Florida | Subject: RE: Open Water Sighting Technique Fortunately, I have a couple of great trainers in my club, and we have a university here so I share this as a story that I was told as a newbie. Be careful about exclusively sighting off of the people in front of you. Whole groups of people have gone off course becuase one fast swimmer went the wrong way. The source has over 20 yrs experience. The best money I have ever invested in triathlon, well almost, was a few swim lessons. Working with a swim coach on breathing and sighting is worth your money Edited by TriMom22 2013-02-01 4:06 PM |
2013-02-04 6:07 AM in reply to: #4603100 |
Veteran 124 On my Bike or SUP, west of OBX | Subject: RE: Open Water Sighting Technique I breathe first then sight.. this seems to be the easiest on my neck and shoulders. |
2013-03-21 12:52 PM in reply to: #4603100 |
Veteran 335 | Subject: RE: Open Water Sighting Technique Ok so never have swam OW so maybe after this will seem like a stupid question but here goes... I will not be at the front so I anticipate being around others during my swim. I would guess I should be looking for the buoys that will mark the course, with that said are the buoys big (tall) enough to be seen from the surface while your swimming in the middle or back? How "far" up do you really have to get your head? Do you change from free to breast to pop you r head up? Thanks, Sorry I know it sounds dumb but I don't want to be stupid about this... Edited by 1_Mad_Madone 2013-03-21 12:53 PM |
2013-03-21 1:13 PM in reply to: #4603100 |
Master 2010 Falls Church, VA | Subject: RE: Open Water Sighting Technique The bouys are quite big and orange or yellow. They are easy to spot, but you do need to look up. All you need is for your eyes to be out of the water, so you can keep swimming freestyle. |
2013-03-21 1:13 PM in reply to: #4603100 |
Champion 10471 Dallas, TX | Subject: RE: Open Water Sighting Technique shaidar - 2013-01-31 1:04 PM Every video I've watched on open water sighting shows the swimmer sighting first and then turning their head to breathe. One video by an Olympic open water swimmer even specifically tells the viewer not to breathe first and then sight. I tried both of these techniques and find it much easier to execute and maintain rythym when I breathe first and then sight. Is there something I am missing about why I shouldn't do this if I am more comfortable with it. ----------------------- 2013 IMFL I believe you can do it either way. Do what works for you. |
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2013-03-21 1:15 PM in reply to: #4604945 |
Champion 10471 Dallas, TX | Subject: RE: Open Water Sighting Technique TriMom22 - 2013-02-01 4:05 PM Fortunately, I have a couple of great trainers in my club, and we have a university here so I share this as a story that I was told as a newbie. Be careful about exclusively sighting off of the people in front of you. Whole groups of people have gone off course becuase one fast swimmer went the wrong way. The source has over 20 yrs experience. The best money I have ever invested in triathlon, well almost, was a few swim lessons. Working with a swim coach on breathing and sighting is worth your money YES! I did an open water swim race, and my sister said that before I came in, this whole group of people swam off course and ended at the docks to the right of the swim exit. Ha! |
2013-03-21 2:41 PM in reply to: #4669102 |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Open Water Sighting Technique Buoys vary in size, but key ones for the turns tend to be quite larger. At least several feet acroos for events I've done. Sometimes they bundle several together. You have to lift your head up, but you can do it from within your stroke. No need to work on water polo skills for this reason. I (and most others) stay in free for sighting. I may switch to breast for a couple strokes if I lose track of things, or something really doesn't make sense. But otherwise it's free all the way. Sight for yourself. Don't just follow. The slower swimmers are not likely to swim straight or pick the best lines. Figure it out for yourself so you know what you're doing. |
2013-03-21 3:00 PM in reply to: #4603100 |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: Open Water Sighting Technique This is one of those things I've never thought about and afraid to now. What ever I did it was natural to me. Sitting here not having been in OW in months I'm having a hard time visualizing it. |
2013-03-21 3:18 PM in reply to: #4669102 |
Veteran 930 Morgan Hill, California | Subject: RE: Open Water Sighting Technique 1_Mad_Madone - 2013-03-21 10:52 AM Ok so never have swam OW so maybe after this will seem like a stupid question but here goes... I will not be at the front so I anticipate being around others during my swim. I would guess I should be looking for the buoys that will mark the course, with that said are the buoys big (tall) enough to be seen from the surface while your swimming in the middle or back? How "far" up do you really have to get your head? Do you change from free to breast to pop you r head up? Thanks, Sorry I know it sounds dumb but I don't want to be stupid about this... I would also suggest, if possible, find some higher land marks such as trees, bridges, rocks etc, that are higher up on the shore and easier to see. Depending on course, not always possible. Sometimes the buoys are further apart, or harder to see depending on the sun. |
2013-03-21 3:56 PM in reply to: #4669348 |
Veteran 335 | Subject: RE: Open Water Sighting Technique popsracer - 2013-03-21 3:00 PM ...What ever I did it was natural to me... I hope I will have this problem! In some of the videos I've watched I see people bobbing up and down not swimming so (don't want to be on of them...) Thanks I'm sure I will catch on pretty quick; at least I can hope. Edited by 1_Mad_Madone 2013-03-21 3:58 PM |
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2013-03-21 4:06 PM in reply to: #4603100 |
Master 2477 Oceanside, California | Subject: RE: Open Water Sighting Technique I believe that I was a"breath then look" guy.
However, my performance at the last Tikiswim suggests that I am a "swim just like you are in the pool until the guy in the outrigger starts screaming and pointing in the correct direction" guy.
Lack of sarc font intentional. |
2013-03-22 8:05 AM in reply to: #4669131 |
New user 560 Key West | Subject: RE: Open Water Sighting Technique Nipper - 2013-03-21 2:13 PM The bouys are quite big and orange or yellow. They are easy to spot, but you do need to look up. All you need is for your eyes to be out of the water, so you can keep swimming freestyle. You would think that would be the case, but it isn't always. Just did a HIM in January and it was not only not a straight course, but we also had 3 to 4 foot seas with some renegade waves even larger. Sooooo, it was very difficult to see the buoys. There was a lot of stopping, waiting to move up to the top of the wave, sighting, and then swimming until you needed to check to make sure you were still on track, then doing it all again. Obviously not the fastest time I ever swam. But to answer the original question. I breath first and sight as my head is going back down. It works for me even if it isn't the textbook way. Edited by topolina 2013-03-22 8:07 AM |