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2013-03-16 11:30 PM

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Subject: Spoke count and larger riders.....
Currently weigh 187, looking to race sprint to IM this season at 185. Looking at a used set of Kinlin XR 300s with powertap, 20/24 spoke count. Not bladed spokes. I'd really only use the rear covered with a HED 3 front. I checked with the guys at wheelbuilder that built it and they said they don't recommend 24h wheels for my size

Came home and checked the Mavic aksiums I've been riding for the past 6 years or so. I am down over 50 pounds over the last two seasons and I've ridden these wheels at well over 200 pounds, up to 240, and they are 20/24. Granted, I did break one spoke on the front a couple years ago, but have thousands of miles on the 24h rear with no issues whatsoever. Think they've only needed truing once Bladed spokes

Is there some difference between mavics and the kinlins that would change this equation? Bladed v non bladed spokes? Have I just been lucky and getting away with it?

Other thoughts?


2013-03-16 11:35 PM
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Subject: RE: Spoke count and larger riders.....

Chris, I'm 200, and have been riding Rolf Vectors 20/24, Zipp 404 20/24, and Mavic Ksyrium bladed 20/24. One low quality, one mid quality, one high-quality. 

No failures, no issues, not so much as a bent spoke or anything out of true. I wouldn't sweat 'em, unless building in the powertap knowingly compromises some of the original structure. I'd ask them why they don't recommend it. 

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2013-03-17 7:29 AM
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Subject: RE: Spoke count and larger riders.....
Stick with the 24 count rear wheel.  Very little aero loss and weight gain over 20 count wheels but a lot more stiffer.   You can even add a disc cover to make the rear wheel faster.
2013-03-17 10:07 AM
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Subject: RE: Spoke count and larger riders.....
I have a set of Reynolds solitude wheels I use for training 20/24 spokes and I flux between 200 and 210.  Zero issues.
2013-03-17 4:09 PM
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Subject: RE: Spoke count and larger riders.....

20/24 here also 215lbs (heading to 185) never had an issue.

2013-03-17 4:25 PM
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Subject: RE: Spoke count and larger riders.....
My mavic gp4's w/ 32 hole hubs are down right chunky but they have taken 30 ish years of abuse.     A good set of training wheels are nice to have.


2013-03-17 4:46 PM
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Subject: RE: Spoke count and larger riders.....
1_Mad_Madone - 2013-03-17 5:09 PM

20/24 here also 215lbs (heading to 185) never had an issue.

 

This is good to hear. Shopping for some new wheels and thought 20/24 would be too little spokes.

2013-03-17 5:01 PM
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Subject: RE: Spoke count and larger riders.....
I have that setup: Wheelbuilder bladed spoke Kinlin 300's with Powertap 20 front/24 rear on my roadbike.  I currently weigh 182. They have been rock solid.  They are stiffer than the 808's on my tri bike.
2013-03-18 6:24 AM
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Subject: RE: Spoke count and larger riders.....
It's not as simple as "more spokes for heavier rider". A punchy rider tend to torque the spokes more, even if you are lighter compared to a heavier, but smoother rider. Then add road conditions, terrain, how technical the courses are, etc. and you can have vastly different results.

PowerTap hubs actually makes for a very sturdy wheel build. They have to be laced 2x on both drive side and non-drive side and the spacing is fairly wide, making for a sturdy platform to start the build from.

Then add the spokes themselves to the equation... certain spokes are just stronger then another spokes... Personal favorite is Sapim CX-Ray, strong enough for Belgian cobbles, but light enough to build a really nice climbing wheel set...

Long story short, you can't correlate # of spokes and your weight to how strong the wheels will be... However, if wheelbuild.com recommends you to go with a higher count, then I would go with a higher count... they really do know their stuff.
2013-03-18 6:47 AM
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Subject: RE: Spoke count and larger riders.....
wolfador - 2013-03-17 4:46 PM
1_Mad_Madone - 2013-03-17 5:09 PM

20/24 here also 215lbs (heading to 185) never had an issue.

 

This is good to hear. Shopping for some new wheels and thought 20/24 would be too little spokes.

Just to add a little here... Test ride them and see if you feel them flex; if so pass, if not go for it!

I DO unload the bike and wheels when I see a "bump" comming, but there have been times when it just happens. 

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