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2006-07-12 7:44 AM

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We now have Isreal entering Lebenon and Gaza.

Iran is trying to get nukes (and wants to wipe Isreal off the face of the earth).

India suffered a massive blow with yesterday's train bombings.

North Korea, and Japan's situation (need I say more with that).

China and Russia are opposed to ANY repercussions against Iran OR North Korea.

 

All of these states are literally in crisis mode. Am I seeing what I think I am seeing? Dare I say it, but are we on the brink of another world conflict?



2006-07-12 8:01 AM
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TwoRiversTri - 2006-07-12 8:44 AM

We now have Isreal entering Lebenon and Gaza.

Iran is trying to get nukes (and wants to wipe Isreal off the face of the earth).

India suffered a massive blow with yesterday's train bombings.

North Korea, and Japan's situation (need I say more with that).

China and Russia are opposed to ANY repercussions against Iran OR North Korea.

 

All of these states are literally in crisis mode. Am I seeing what I think I am seeing? Dare I say it, but are we on the brink of another world conflict?

Only if Hincapie fails to make a move today in the Tour Day France. If he finishes today in 17th or worse then I say the end times are near.
2006-07-12 8:07 AM
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Hmmm....all of these coming together at once can only mean one thing.

It is time for a ROAD TRIP!

2006-07-12 9:07 AM
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Besides the Bering Sea we have lotsa water bewtween these crisis areas and the U.S.
Who knows what the final straw may be. Helen of Troy, the assassination in Sarajevo of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria-Hungary. We fight for strange reasons.

China/Russia/North Korea/Iran vs. US/Canada/Europe/Japan/Australia/India/Pakistan/Israel for WWIII? I sure hope not.


2006-07-12 9:43 AM
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Bluejack - 2006-07-12 9:07 AM Besides the Bering Sea we have lotsa water bewtween these crisis areas and the U.S. Who knows what the final straw may be. Helen of Troy, the assassination in Sarajevo of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria-Hungary. We fight for strange reasons. China/Russia/North Korea/Iran vs. US/Canada/Europe/Japan/Australia/India/Pakistan/Israel for WWIII? I sure hope not.

Well as we know of it would be China/Russia/North Korea/Iran/Syria/Lebanon/Palestine/Lord knows how many other Middle eastern countries/?Paskistan? vs. US/Canada/Japan/?India?/Isreal

 Canada would be thrown into it for the simple fact OF the Bering Sea (Could you imagine a troop buildup in Alaska?).

There's no indication whatsoever that Europe's pacifistic nature would even get involved. We've saved them twice, but that doesn't mean squat now a days (especially with the Communist Socialist movement in Europe.

Pakistan and India is up in the air... I have no idea where that would land. They are clear enemies, and Pakistan is majority muslim...but in order for that to fall thorugh there would have to be a government overthrow in Pakistan (which is not unlikley).

Now the question is where would Iraq go?

Shiver....



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2006-07-12 10:00 AM
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TwoRiversTri - 2006-07-12 10:43 AM

vs. US/Canada/Japan/?India?/Isreal

 

The Brits would have our back, since W. and Blair are joined at the hip. And they'd drag the Frenchies in as well.

 



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2006-07-12 10:04 AM
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run4yrlif - 2006-07-12 11:00 AM
TwoRiversTri - 2006-07-12 10:43 AM

vs. US/Canada/Japan/?India?/Isreal

 

The Brits would have our back, since W. and Blair are joined at the hip. And they'd drag the Frenchies in as well.

Maybe we should just recruit Zidane to go around and head butt the heads of state for each of these countries. 

 

Am I the only one using the sarcasm font with regularity anymore?

2006-07-12 10:05 AM
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Hopefully the world can hold on until '08 when we can get someone in office to do something about foreign policy other than sh*t on everyone who isn't us.  If not, New Zealand seems like a cool place to live.

 

2006-07-12 10:16 AM
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Any countries that have a McDonald's in them will never get involved in a shooting war. So, really, the only ones we have to worry about are those with no McDonald's in them.

Yes, this is an actual theory in International Relations. Look it up some time.
2006-07-12 10:24 AM
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Oh dear lord....

The Mac - 2006-07-12 10:05 AM

Hopefully the world can hold on until '08 when we can get someone in office to do something about foreign policy other than sh*t on everyone who isn't us.  If not, New Zealand seems like a cool place to live.

 

2006-07-12 10:33 AM
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DerekL - 2006-07-12 10:24 AM

Oh dear lord....

I can hear the inflection in your voice as I read this.

You know, as soon as someone else is elected all of our problems will go away and we can fix everyone else's.  Didn't you know that Derek?



2006-07-12 10:38 AM
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Yay.  Utopia!!

The two major parties in the US are far more alike than different unfortunately.

Comet - 2006-07-12 10:33 AM
DerekL - 2006-07-12 10:24 AM

Oh dear lord....

I can hear the inflection in your voice as I read this.

You know, as soon as someone else is elected all of our problems will go away and we can fix everyone else's.  Didn't you know that Derek?

2006-07-12 10:45 AM
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DerekL - 2006-07-12 11:24 AM

Oh dear lord....

The Mac - 2006-07-12 10:05 AM

Hopefully the world can hold on until '08 when we can get someone in office to do something about foreign policy other than sh*t on everyone who isn't us.  If not, New Zealand seems like a cool place to live.

 

Wait, let me guess.  Foreign policy was bad prior to this administration right?  We were hated world wide prior to 2000 right?  US politics has had nothing to do with nor any influence on foreign affairs, right?  I don't recall anti american sentiment as bad as this after the first Gulf war.  I guess cause and effect is not applicable here.  Besides, democracy in the middle east is worth all this....right? 

 

2006-07-12 10:51 AM
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TwoRiversTri - 2006-07-12 9:43 AM

 

Pakistan and India is up in the air... I have no idea where that would land. They are clear enemies, and Pakistan is majority muslim...but in order for that to fall thorugh there would have to be a government overthrow in Pakistan (which is not unlikley).

 

What worries me about this situation is that they are moving out of the Kashmir region and penetrating southern parts of India. The increasing growth of Muslims in India is going to cause harshness between Hindus and Muslims in all parts of India, not just Kashmir. I saw firsthand in India the animosity between the two. I knew it wouldn't be long before this happened. It's so unfortunate.

2006-07-12 10:53 AM
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Wow, you sure got a lot out of a few words.

My reaction was both to the fact that you implied that things would be magically fixed with a new party in power and the tired "threats" of moving to another country if that doesn't happen.

Remember, everything that's bad in the world started in 2001.  It was a virtual paradise prior to that, right?

The Mac - 2006-07-12 10:45 AM
DerekL - 2006-07-12 11:24 AM

Oh dear lord....

The Mac - 2006-07-12 10:05 AM

Hopefully the world can hold on until '08 when we can get someone in office to do something about foreign policy other than sh*t on everyone who isn't us.  If not, New Zealand seems like a cool place to live.

 

Wait, let me guess.  Foreign policy was bad prior to this administration right?  We were hated world wide prior to 2000 right?  US politics has had nothing to do with nor any influence on foreign affairs, right?  I don't recall anti american sentiment as bad as this after the first Gulf war.  I guess cause and effect is not applicable here.  Besides, democracy in the middle east is worth all this....right? 

 

2006-07-12 10:56 AM
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DerekL - 2006-07-12 11:53 AM

Wow, you sure got a lot out of a few words.

My reaction was both to the fact that you implied that things would be magically fixed with a new party in power and the tired "threats" of moving to another country if that doesn't happen.

Remember, everything that's bad in the world started in 2001.  It was a virtual paradise prior to that, right?

The Mac - 2006-07-12 10:45 AM
DerekL - 2006-07-12 11:24 AM

Oh dear lord....

The Mac - 2006-07-12 10:05 AM

Hopefully the world can hold on until '08 when we can get someone in office to do something about foreign policy other than sh*t on everyone who isn't us.  If not, New Zealand seems like a cool place to live.

 

Wait, let me guess.  Foreign policy was bad prior to this administration right?  We were hated world wide prior to 2000 right?  US politics has had nothing to do with nor any influence on foreign affairs, right?  I don't recall anti american sentiment as bad as this after the first Gulf war.  I guess cause and effect is not applicable here.  Besides, democracy in the middle east is worth all this....right? 

 

Not a paradise, but better than things are now.  IMHO, the decline can be traced to recent decisions over the past 6-8 years.  Others may see it differently.  Perhaps a different political party may not "fix" things, but they may not make the same stupid mistakes and can stop the bleeding.



2006-07-12 10:59 AM
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Again, if you think the two political parties are all that different, I've got a bunch of beachfront property in Nebraska to sell you.

The Mac - 2006-07-12 10:56 AM

Not a paradise, but better than things are now.  IMHO, the decline can be traced to recent decisions over the past 6-8 years.  Others may see it differently.  Perhaps a different political party may not "fix" things, but they may not make the same stupid mistakes and can stop the bleeding.

2006-07-12 11:03 AM
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The Mac - 2006-07-12 11:56 AM

Not a paradise, but better than things are now. IMHO, the decline can be traced to recent decisions over the past 6-8 years. Others may see it differently. Perhaps a different political party may not "fix" things, but they may not make the same stupid mistakes and can stop the bleeding.



Grass is always greener on the other side.

And I guarantee that similar mistakes will be made.

As for tracing events to the last 6-8 years, some would argue that it started way back in the '40s. After the end of WWII and colonialism, and then thee creation of Israel, and the rise of the importance of oil to the world economy.

Of course, really, let's face it, things have never really been all that great to begin with. I mean, animals have been fighting and dying for....well, for ever. Can't ignore the struggles of nature. It may be shrouded with high political terms and such, but let's face facts: this struggle is no different than two rams butting heads over territory and babes.
2006-07-12 11:15 AM
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DerekL - 2006-07-12 11:59 AM

Again, if you think the two political parties are all that different, I've got a bunch of beachfront property in Nebraska to sell you.

How's the open-water swimming?

2006-07-12 11:17 AM
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Angels on the sideline,
Puzzled and amused.
Why did Father give these humans free will?
Now they're all confused.

Don't these talking monkeys know that Eden has enough to go around?
Plenty in this holy garden, silly monkeys
Where there's one you're bound to divide it
Right in two

Angels on the sideline,
Baffled and confused.
Father blessed them all with reason,
And this is what they choose?

Monkey killing monkey killing monkey over pieces of the ground.
Silly monkeys give them thumbs they forge a blade
And where there's one they're bound to divide it
Right in two

Monkey killing monkey killing monkey over pieces of the ground.
Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club,
And beat their brother down.
How they survive so misguided is a mystery.
Repugnant is a creature who would squander the ability,
To lift an eye to heaven, conscious of his fleeting time here.

[Cutting it all right in two
/ Cut it all right in two]
/ Cutting our love right in two]

Fight over the clouds, over wind, over sky
Fight over your lie, over blood, over anything
Fight over love, over sun, over nothing
Fight till they die,
(Ahhh!) over what? for their ending

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2006-07-12 11:24 AM
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The Mac - 2006-07-12 11:05 AM

Hopefully the world can hold on until '08 when we can get someone in office to do something about foreign policy other than sh*t on everyone who isn't us.  If not, New Zealand seems like a cool place to live.

I don't get why everybody is so against a president who is PRO U.S.  Has he been the best president, NO.  But he sure as heck hasn't been the worst.  I like a president who is pro US.  F*^$ those other countries.



2006-07-12 11:26 AM
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I don't get why everybody is so against a president who is PRO U.S.  Has he been the best president, NO.  But he sure as heck hasn't been the worst.  I like a president who is pro US.  F*^$ those other countries.

wow

2006-07-12 11:32 AM
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Ahh, this reminds me of those Fridays back in March when everyone was getting stir crazy and race season was not in full swing yet.

Party on boys, this is entertaining.

 

2006-07-12 11:37 AM
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The Mac - 2006-07-12 11:05 AM

Hopefully the world can hold on until '08 when we can get someone in office to do something about foreign policy other than sh*t on everyone who isn't us.  If not, New Zealand seems like a cool place to live.

I don't get why everybody is so against a president who is PRO U.S.  Has he been the best president, NO.  But he sure as heck hasn't been the worst.  I like a president who is pro US.  F*^$ those other countries.



On behalf of all of those other countries, thank you, thank you very much.

Nationalism.
2006-07-12 11:39 AM
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parrj - 2006-07-12 10:24 AM

I don't get why everybody is so against a president who is PRO U.S.  Has he been the best president, NO.  But he sure as heck hasn't been the worst.  I like a president who is pro US.  F*^$ those other countries.



Maybe it's just me, but I think every president should be pro-US. I would never vote for a president running on an anti-US platform.

I feel badly for whoever the next pres is, the world is in a heckuva mess right now and there aren't many good options no matter which party is there, but I think there is an argument to be made that the world's landscape would be quite different now had Gore been, ahem, elected instead of Bush.
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