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 2013-06-25 2:36 PM |
Master  1517   Grand Prairie |  Subject: Did I really loose that much fitness?On 05/12 I had a though weekend with a 2.3m swim; 14mi run and 62mi bike. The next week I biked 90mi and ended up with an overuse injury in my ankle/foot/lower-leg. Since then I reduced my training from ~10hrs per week to ~5-6hrs per week with litte run and reduced bike. On 06/09 I did a sprint tri-turned du (1mi run- 11mile bike - 2mi run) and placed 2nd in my AG (19th out of 81 overall). From 06/13 to 06/22 my brother came for a visit and I ate not soo good and did no workouts (other than 5hrs shopping daily and one 6.5hr round of golf). Last night on the trainer I was not able to hold 95 rpm when doing 189Watts (computrainer ergo mode) for 60 minutes (FTP is/was 212Watts). I managed to hold the 189 Watts, but it was painfull. Also on sunday I struggled druing my 3hr ride (at 100F) and barely could hold 150Watts toward the end. Also I am having some mild foot/ankle/lower leg discomfort again.... I am worried that I lost a lot of fittness/endurance/power as my CTL in TP is way down. Especially looking at my X-50 (1mi swim - 40mi bike - 9mi run) in 2 weeks sunday is a bit worriesome. I think the HIM in October will be fine. |
| 2013-06-25 2:42 PM in reply to: timf79 |
Champion 34263    Chicago | Subject: RE: Did I really loose that much fitness? Originally posted by timf79 On 05/12 I had a though weekend with a 2.3m swim; 14mi run and 62mi bike. The next week I biked 90mi and ended up with an overuse injury in my ankle/foot/lower-leg. Since then I reduced my training from ~10hrs per week to ~5-6hrs per week with litte run and reduced bike. On 06/09 I did a sprint tri-turned du (1mi run- 11mile bike - 2mi run) and placed 2nd in my AG (19th out of 81 overall). From 06/13 to 06/22 my brother came for a visit and I ate not soo good and did no workouts (other than 5hrs shopping daily and one 6.5hr round of golf). Last night on the trainer I was not able to hold 95 rpm when doing 189Watts (computrainer ergo mode) for 60 minutes (FTP is/was 212Watts). I managed to hold the 189 Watts, but it was painfull. Also on sunday I struggled druing my 3hr ride (at 100F) and barely could hold 150Watts toward the end. Also I am having some mild foot/ankle/lower leg discomfort again.... I am worried that I lost a lot of fittness/endurance/power as my CTL in TP is way down. Especially looking at my X-50 (1mi swim - 40mi bike - 9mi run) in 2 weeks sunday is a bit worriesome. I think the HIM in October will be fine. What was your wattage on your 5/12 and 6/9 races? And was it 100F out during those races? |
| 2013-06-25 2:57 PM in reply to: mr2tony |
Master 1517 Grand Prairie | Subject: RE: Did I really loose that much fitness? Originally posted by mr2tony What was your wattage on your 5/12 and 6/9 races? And was it 100F out during those races? 5/11 62.7 mile ride 3:26hrs avg. power 191W; 20min max 220W temp per garmin connect: 59F 6/09 10.42 mile sprint-bike 29:16min avg. power 224W; 20min max 231W temp as per garmin conect: 70F 6/23 45 mile ride 2:54 hrs avg. power 147W; 20min max power 184W, temp per edge 800: 99.9F The other thing is that my legs are seriously sore today. |
| 2013-06-25 3:01 PM in reply to: timf79 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: Did I really loose that much fitness? Originally posted by timf79 Originally posted by mr2tony What was your wattage on your 5/12 and 6/9 races? And was it 100F out during those races? 5/11 62.7 mile ride 3:26hrs avg. power 191W; 20min max 220W temp per garmin connect: 59F 6/09 10.42 mile sprint-bike 29:16min avg. power 224W; 20min max 231W temp as per garmin conect: 70F 6/23 45 mile ride 2:54 hrs avg. power 147W; 20min max power 184W, temp per edge 800: 99.9F The other thing is that my legs are seriously sore today. It's one of two things -- either you did lose the fitness or, you know, IT WAS 100 DEGREES OUT! Wait for a cooler day then go out and try again, would be my advice. |
| 2013-06-25 3:31 PM in reply to: timf79 |
Master 1517 Grand Prairie | Subject: RE: Did I really loose that much fitness? Originally posted by timf79 From 06/13 to 06/22 my brother came for a visit and I ate not soo good and did no workouts (other than 5hrs shopping daily and one 6.5hr round of golf). I also gained 6lbs in the days above ... :-( |
| 2013-06-25 3:34 PM in reply to: mr2tony |
Master 1517 Grand Prairie | Subject: RE: Did I really loose that much fitness? Originally posted by mr2tony It's one of two things -- either you did lose the fitness or, you know, IT WAS 100 DEGREES OUT! Wait for a cooler day then go out and try again, would be my advice. Would heat (and lack of hydration) also account for sore muscles the days after? Any estimate on how fast I can gain back the fitness I lost? |
| 2013-06-25 3:37 PM in reply to: timf79 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: Did I really loose that much fitness? Originally posted by timf79 Originally posted by mr2tony It's one of two things -- either you did lose the fitness or, you know, IT WAS 100 DEGREES OUT! Wait for a cooler day then go out and try again, would be my advice. Would heat (and lack of hydration) also account for sore muscles the days after? Any estimate on how fast I can gain back the fitness I lost? Of course heat and lack of hydration would account for sore muscles. At least that's been my experience. Look, taking nine days off isn't going to do improve your fitness, and you likely lost some, but throw in the fact that you hadn't done anything for a long time with 100 degree temps and you're in for some pain. Just stick with your plan and you'll get it back soon. It shouldn't take long. Just don't freak out over it and DONT take nine days off again!  |
| 2013-06-25 4:19 PM in reply to: timf79 |
Member 347 Scottsdale, AZ | Subject: RE: Did I really loose that much fitness? Originally posted by timf79 Originally posted by mr2tony It's one of two things -- either you did lose the fitness or, you know, IT WAS 100 DEGREES OUT! Wait for a cooler day then go out and try again, would be my advice. Would heat (and lack of hydration) also account for sore muscles the days after? Any estimate on how fast I can gain back the fitness I lost? Heat, and the corresponding dehydration, absolutely played a role in your muscles being sore. Your body has to work harder as the temperature rises which leads to many negative side affects if not dealt with properly. If you're training in heat, make sure you monitor your heart rate as it will elevate quickly. Your body works much harder in heat to cool the body down which causes your HR to increase. Therefore, you have to train smart and not go off just pacing when it's 100+ out. You can come train with me on Saturday here in Phoenix where it will be 117 if you want a crash course on how to deal with the heat. Long story short - IT SUCKS |
| 2013-06-25 4:32 PM in reply to: devilfan02 |
Expert 3145 Scottsdale, AZ | Subject: RE: Did I really loose that much fitness? Originally posted by devilfan02 Originally posted by timf79 Originally posted by mr2tony It's one of two things -- either you did lose the fitness or, you know, IT WAS 100 DEGREES OUT! Wait for a cooler day then go out and try again, would be my advice. Would heat (and lack of hydration) also account for sore muscles the days after? Any estimate on how fast I can gain back the fitness I lost? Heat, and the corresponding dehydration, absolutely played a role in your muscles being sore. Your body has to work harder as the temperature rises which leads to many negative side affects if not dealt with properly. If you're training in heat, make sure you monitor your heart rate as it will elevate quickly. Your body works much harder in heat to cool the body down which causes your HR to increase. Therefore, you have to train smart and not go off just pacing when it's 100+ out. You can come train with me on Saturday here in Phoenix where it will be 117 if you want a crash course on how to deal with the heat. Long story short - IT SUCKS Woohoo, can't wait for that! I guess I should try and get out before 7am Saturday morning. Although it was almost, dare I say, cool on my ride this morning. |
| 2013-06-25 4:37 PM in reply to: timf79 |
Pro 5361 | Subject: RE: Did I really loose that much fitness? the problem with being really fit is that it's like blowing up a balloon with a hole in it. the fitter you are, the quicker you lose it when you stop doing what it takes to stay there. in 42 days- you're back to your base level and kinda' need to start all over. |
| 2013-06-25 4:37 PM in reply to: timf79 |
Pro 5361 | Subject: RE: Did I really loose that much fitness? the problem with being really fit is that it's like blowing up a balloon with a hole in it. the fitter you are, the quicker you lose it when you stop doing what it takes to stay there. in 42 days- you're back to your base level and kinda' need to start all over. |
| 2013-06-25 4:37 PM in reply to: timf79 |
Pro 5361 | Subject: RE: Did I really loose that much fitness? the problem with being really fit is that it's like blowing up a balloon with a hole in it. the fitter you are, the quicker you lose it when you stop doing what it takes to stay there. in 42 days- you're back to your base level and kinda' need to start all over. |
| 2013-06-25 4:56 PM in reply to: morey000 |
Master 1517 Grand Prairie | Subject: RE: Did I really loose that much fitness? Originally posted by morey000 the problem with being really fit is that it's like blowing up a balloon with a hole in it. the fitter you are, the quicker you lose it when you stop doing what it takes to stay there. in 42 days- you're back to your base level and kinda' need to start all over. What is considered base level? This must be something that can be brought up over time as well, I mean there is no way I would be as bad in shape as I was 3 years ago if I rest for 42 days. (Back then I was not able to run a mile, one mile be foot would have been at least 15minutes) |
| 2013-06-25 5:04 PM in reply to: timf79 |
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