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2013-06-29 7:18 PM

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Subject: do you stop your garmin during your long run?
When you go for a long run and have to take a stop for the restroom, traffice or to fill up your camelbak, etc do you stop your garmin? I know the ticker keeps going during the race if you have to stop, but I'm curious what others do. Just wandering how much of an effect stopping for a few minutes during your training will have on race performance.

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2013-06-29 7:28 PM
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Subject: RE: do you stop your garmin during your long run?
I do not. I count that as my aid station time. For the bike though, since my bike computer stops automatically when it sees no cadence and speed after a few seconds, I just say screw it and get my total moving time. Not the best but at least I few a few extra miles in. As for running, I that's my strong suit, so I guess that's why I try to be more accurate on that. It's a double standard I know, but I tend to walk through aid stations on marathons while for HIM/IM, you don't really stop on the bike. You just do a rolling refuel.
2013-06-29 8:51 PM
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Subject: RE: do you stop your garmin during your long run?
Yes I stop my watch. I do all my runs on time not mileage. So I feel like I'm cheating myself if I don't stop it. If I'm scheduled to run 60 min I want to run 60min not 57min because I had to stop and pee.
2013-06-30 12:14 AM
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Subject: RE: do you stop your garmin during your long run?
Originally posted by EKHYes I stop my watch. I do all my runs on time not mileage. So I feel like I'm cheating myself if I don't stop it. If I'm scheduled to run 60 min I want to run 60min not 57min because I had to stop and pee.
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2013-06-30 7:49 AM
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Subject: RE: do you stop your garmin during your long run?
My garmin automatically stops when I do. that said, my "breaks" are minimal. I hit one stoplight on the way to the trail, one on the way back. If I have to refill, I stop in at home to grab two already mixed bottles to replace the ones I have with me (only if I'm going 25+ km and it is hot out.)
2013-06-30 7:59 AM
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Subject: RE: do you stop your garmin during your long run?

Long stops yes...like someone else said...coach told me to run for 1.5 hours, not 1:15 plus breaks.  So if I make a bathroom stop, yeah, I stop the watch.

Short stops?  Nope.  If I'm waiting less than a minute at a stop light or whatever...I just don't worry about that.



2013-06-30 2:44 PM
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Subject: RE: do you stop your garmin during your long run?

Originally posted by SEADOCHA Just wandering how much of an effect stopping for a few minutes during your training will have on race performance.

From a physiological standpoint, I do not think it matters.  Your overall cumulative training workload is what is important and stopping to go to the bathroom during a training run isn't going to change much come race day.  I try not to stop on my long runs and very rarely do.  For me, it's a mental toughness thing.  I feel like I am training my mind to keep going even when I am very tired or in discomfort.  It would just be too easy to walk sometimes so I fight the urge.

If I have to stop for a light or fill a water bottle I do stop my watch.  I do it so I look faster than I really am in my logs.Laughing

2013-06-30 9:25 PM
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Originally posted by EKHYes I stop my watch. I do all my runs on time not mileage. So I feel like I'm cheating myself if I don't stop it. If I'm scheduled to run 60 min I want to run 60min not 57min because I had to stop and pee.
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x3.  I set my garmin to autopause anytime the pace goes over 13 mm.

It doesn't really matter though.  You improve your run fitness by running, running more, and running at a higher intensity.  If you take a 2-3 minute water break every 2 miles...it just means that you'll probably run a little bit quicker while you're running compared to if you didn't stop at all...or maybe allows you to run a little bit farther before you get tired.  At the end of the day, the training stress you create is likely about the same.

2013-07-05 2:59 PM
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Subject: RE: do you stop your garmin during your long run?
Yes so I know what my REAL pace is.
2013-07-09 12:05 PM
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Subject: RE: do you stop your garmin during your long run?
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Long stops yes...like someone else said...coach told me to run for 1.5 hours, not 1:15 plus breaks.  So if I make a bathroom stop, yeah, I stop the watch.

Short stops?  Nope.  If I'm waiting less than a minute at a stop light or whatever...I just don't worry about that.




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2013-07-09 1:13 PM
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Subject: RE: do you stop your garmin during your long run?

Mine was always on autopause, but when I think about it, I'd should have prolly just let it run. That gives one an greater understanding of "how long" it takes go a certain distance. Nothing "autopauses" during a race. 

I always trained based on mileage not time. 



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2013-07-09 2:40 PM
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Subject: RE: do you stop your garmin during your long run?
Originally posted by Jason N

Originally posted by ChrisM
Originally posted by EKHYes I stop my watch. I do all my runs on time not mileage. So I feel like I'm cheating myself if I don't stop it. If I'm scheduled to run 60 min I want to run 60min not 57min because I had to stop and pee.
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x3.  I set my garmin to autopause anytime the pace goes over 13 mm.

It doesn't really matter though.  You improve your run fitness by running, running more, and running at a higher intensity.  If you take a 2-3 minute water break every 2 miles...it just means that you'll probably run a little bit quicker while you're running compared to if you didn't stop at all...or maybe allows you to run a little bit farther before you get tired.  At the end of the day, the training stress you create is likely about the same.

I stop it too. I want to see what's going on while I'm working out. Making sure that I'm working at an appropriate level for the desired time. Most of the time, the little breaks at a light or intersection mean next to nothing towards training adaptations as they're just getting the training time in. For harder efforts or times when the interruptions would mess with a set or workout, I try to make the route so that there aren't any interruptions in it. Or as few as I can.

2013-07-09 5:40 PM
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Subject: RE: do you stop your garmin during your long run?
If I'm running for time yes. If I'm going for distance, no.
2013-07-10 11:28 AM
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Subject: RE: do you stop your garmin during your long run?

If I'm doing speedwork, then I lap everything of consequence (intervals and the rest periods between), so it doesn't matter if I stop for a minute during the warmup or cooldown runs, as the few seconds one way or another don't affect the workout.  For distance, I let it run and look at the overall pace.

To me, at least, I think the overall pace including any stops is a better indicator of what one actually ran.  Again, for me, if I stop for even a few tens of seconds, my HR comes waaaay down and I can pick up the pace considerably.  Those little breaks "count" for me.

I saw this over the last couple months on some long runs where I did 8x9' Z4 intervals with one minute walk breaks between (not even stopping altogether).  I'd never done that kind of workout before (always at least jogged b/w intervals) and was shocked at how much greater the recovery is by walking at half the jog pace than a minute of very light jog. I usually finish that workout with 30-60' of Z2 or Z3, and I notice the difference then, for sure!

So, if I'm getting a recovery in the middle of the run, I count that against my overall time (for instance, during the interval workout above I also look at my overall average pace during each interval - that's a fun mindgame on the last couple!!!).

While I do usualy target running for a set time, I usually pick a course that gets me close to that time and go.  If I take a bit longer overall, like a couple minutes for lights/water bottle refills, it doesn't change the overall time that much.  I guess if I was on a treadmill, or doing VERY short laps where I could just quit at the specified total time, then it would change the workout.  However, since I usually pick a course of appropriate length for the target time, I just run.

And run and run and run...  Which is what helps me more anyway.  Laughing  That said, Strava tells no lies (unless you're in a paceline with a tailwind on the bike).  Tongue out

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