Blood Thinners and Racing
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2013-07-18 7:59 AM |
Veteran 427 | Subject: Blood Thinners and Racing Has anyone here raced while taking a blood thinner med? |
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2013-07-19 9:25 AM in reply to: FurnaceM3 |
Veteran 183 Jupiter, FL | Subject: RE: Blood Thinners and Racing I did for one year after having a stent. I was very, very cautious. 5 months after stopping the blood thinner a driver backed out of his driveway without looking and I went down trying to avoid him. I came down on my head and shoulder and was very lucky I was not still on the blood thinner...easily could have caused a brain bleed. Can't tell you what to do, but I probably wouldn't ride again if I had to be on the blood thinner. |
2013-07-19 1:22 PM in reply to: FurnaceM3 |
Champion 7036 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: Blood Thinners and Racing I've been on Coumadin (generic:Warfarin) for 12-1/2 years, since I had open heart surgery to get a mechanical aortic valve. Never had a problem with excessive or uncontrolled bleeding or bruising, including when crashing my bike at +20 mph. The term "blood thinner" is a misnomer, more correctly they're anticoagulants. They don't literally make your blood "thinner" or less viscous, but just cause it to take longer to clot. In my case it's to reduce the probability of clots forming on my mechanical valve and then breaking away to cause a stroke or heart attack. I get tested every six weeks to make sure my INR stays between 2.5 -3.5. All that means is that it takes my blood between 2.5 and 3.5 times longer to clot than "normal" blood. It still clots just fine. In spite of all the old wive's tales, anticoagulants do not cause bleeding. If you hit your head hard enough to actually cause a brain bleed, then you've got a pretty big problem whether or not you're on an anticoagulant. Does it increase your risk when cycling? Certainly to a degree, but it's marginal. I've never seen a documented case where Coumadin actually was listed as contributing factor in a cycling death, say as opposed to getting splattered across the road by some rednecks in a pick-up truck. I certainly endorse always wearing a good, well-fitting helmet, but I'd do that whether or not I was taking Coumadin. If you're really concerned about it, then I would discuss it with a doctor or health care professional who actually understands anticoagulation therapy. Not all do. Good luck, Mark
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2013-07-19 4:59 PM in reply to: 0 |
Subject: RE: Blood Thinners and Racing I'll add my .02/ Been on coumadin since March 2010 due to PEs. Lifer. When I got the first 6 month does I decided to just ride the trainer. Once I became a lifer, I decided that I couldn't live in a bubble, and I'd certainly hate to not ride only to slip and fall in the tub. It's a personal decision, my wife and I did not come to it lightly (no kids). I ride during the week on the computrainer, but outside on the weekends. I don't ride certain routes, or with certain people. As Mark said, there is a marginally increased risk, but we were already at risk, so there's just some increase we have to be comfortable with. I do 99% of the stuff I did pre coumadin, inlcluding scuba, going on roller coasters, mtn biking, haven't snowboarded again, but will, etc. I've raced sprints, olys, 3 HIMs and doing IM Canada in 5 weeks on thinners I have my own coagucheck machine and buy my own strips, test every two weeks or so. I am fairly consistent at low 2s. If needed, I make small adjustments to keep myself in the low range. Oh, and I don't follow any dietary restrictions either. Dose to the diet, don't diet to the dose. Salads with spinach. A few beers now and again. And life goes on Feel free to ping with any questions or ask here. There's lots of us out there continuing to do what it is we do. Edited by ChrisM 2013-07-19 5:00 PM |
2013-07-22 8:13 AM in reply to: ChrisM |
Veteran 427 | Subject: RE: Blood Thinners and Racing Thanks for the feedback guys. I'm actually on a different type of anti-coagulant called xarelto 15Mg twice a day for 3 weeks and then down to 1 20Mg pill a day. This was a result of a small/acute blood clot in my neck last week discovered during a doppler/ultrasound test. I was complaining about neck pain to my oncologist (yes...there is a battle there too) and he was immediately concerned. I do plan on racing and my coach knows all about my medial history and treatments. I had to drop out of my 70.3 race this weeke3nd which really got me depressed last week since I felt so good and was ready to PR that bad boy. Oh well, I gotta think of the long term since I have my first IM in September and that is my "A" race. |
2013-07-22 12:07 PM in reply to: 0 |
Subject: RE: Blood Thinners and Racing Originally posted by FurnaceM3 Thanks for the feedback guys. I'm actually on a different type of anti-coagulant called xarelto 15Mg twice a day for 3 weeks and then down to 1 20Mg pill a day. This was a result of a small/acute blood clot in my neck last week discovered during a doppler/ultrasound test. I was complaining about neck pain to my oncologist (yes...there is a battle there too) and he was immediately concerned. I do plan on racing and my coach knows all about my medial history and treatments. I had to drop out of my 70.3 race this weeke3nd which really got me depressed last week since I felt so good and was ready to PR that bad boy. Oh well, I gotta think of the long term since I have my first IM in September and that is my "A" race. Well, no real practical difference between Xarelto and Coumadin except they work on different systems (xarelto on the blood factors, coumadin on vitamin k), and of course xarelto does away with diet restrictions and testing. They both inhibit clotting. I am sure you've discussed this with your doc, but the sole reason I am not considering xarelto is that at least on coumadin there is a reversal agent in the form of fresh frozen plasma or synthetic vitamin K (although as a practical matter, not sure when this is given following a bleed, and may not be instantaneous). With xarelto, there is as of yet no known reversal agent, or antidote, although they are working on it. Point being of course if there is an accident and internal bleeding there may not be a way to slow down the bleed with someone on xarelto. Edited by ChrisM 2013-07-22 12:08 PM |
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2013-07-24 10:54 AM in reply to: ChrisM |
Champion 7036 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: Blood Thinners and Racing One other piece of advice I would offer would be to wear a Road ID or Medic Alert type ID bracelet that states you are on Xarelto, just in case. Mark |
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